Hello users of rdrama.net and welcome to the first edition of...
LAPPLAND'S CHEMICAL SERIES
Today I will show you the process of methamphetamine manufacture.
Please keep in mind that the manufacture of methamphetamine is illegal and so is the sale and consumption. I @Lapp have never taken produced or sold methanphetamine. I do not personally condone the manufacture sale or consumption of methamphetamine.
rdrama.net does not condone the manufacture sale or consumption of methamphetamine.
If you struggle with meth addiction please contact the American addiction center at
406-220-5357or get help on the web at https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help
If you find yourself in any way replicating the process of meth production please contact your local police department so that they can assist you and get you the help that you need.
The creation of this post was endorsed by @carpathianflorist all legal issues are solely their responsibility
I still do not know what SWIM style is please inform me in the comments.
This guide is for education and informational purposes and is not to be replicated.
what is methamphetamine ?
Meth is a strong central nervous system stimulant that was discovered in 1893. Methamphetamine properly refers to the equal mix of levomethamphetamine and dextromethamphetamine in their pure amine forms though the most commonly known version of methamphetamine is the hydrochloride salt version commonly known as crystal meth. Methamphetamine was once readily available as an over the counter medication, the earliest prescriptions for it were for treating hay fever, asthma, and the common cold. During the second world war meth was given to soldiers to improve their performance. Factory workers and other laborers were also given methamphetamine to keep them awake and capable of working longer, it is during this time that the negative side effects of meth use started to be discovered. The first meth ban in the United States occurred in 1959 when meth based inhalers were regulated to stop abuse with them. Later in the 1970's and 1980's stricter restrictions pushed methamphetamine into being a schedule II substance. Despite its illegality meth manufacture has continued until today and due to many restrictions placed upon the process and materials meth manufacturing is a hard and dangerous process.
equipment
The manufacturing of meth requires at minimum the following materials:
Several round bottom flasks, a claisen adapter for the round bottom flasks, a still head that has a thermometer holder, Two condensers with straight central tubes one 35 cm long and the other 50 cm long, a vacuum adapter,a separator funnel, and multiple 24/40 size ground glass joints.You will need at least one each of the following round bottom flask: 3000 ml, 2000 ml and 500 ml; and two each of 1000 mi and 250 ml. I am not sure if changing the equipment type for a suitable replacement is possible or if the exact specifics really matter, I have never undergone these processes as they are illegal.
Due to the abuse of drug manufacturing most chemistry supply companies keep extensive records of customers and require an account to be set up before hand to purchase.
chemicals
The following are the necessary precursor chemicals:
Listed Precursor Chemicals:
1. Anthranilic acid and anthranilic acid salt
2. Benzyl cyanide
3. Ergonovine and ergonovine salt
4. Ergotamine and ergotamine salt
5. N-Ergotamine acid and N-Ergotamine salt
6. Norpseudoephedrine, norpseudoephedrine salt, norpseudoephedrine optical isomers, and norpseudoephedrine salts of optical isomers
7. Phenylacetic acid, phenylacetic esters (such as ethylphenylacetate) and phenylacetic salts
8. Phenylpropanolamine, phenylpropanolaminesalts, phenylpropanolamine optical isomers, and phenylpropanolamine salts of optical isomers
9. Piperidine and piperidine salts
10. Pseudoephedrine, pseudoephedrine salts, pseudoephedrine optical isomers, and Pseudoephedrine salts of optical isomers
11. 3, 4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone
12. Methylamine and methylamine salts
13. Ethylamine and ethylamine salts
14. D-lysergic acid, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
15. Propionic anhydride
16. lsosafrole
17. Safrole
18. Piperonal
19. N-Methylephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
20. N-Ethylephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
21. N-methylpseudoephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
22. N-ethylpseudoephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
23. 57% Hydriotic acid
24. Ephedrine
25. Benzaldehyde
26. Nitroethane
27. GBH
28. Red Phosphorus; white or yellow Phosphorus
29. Hypophosphoric Acid, and its salts
30. lodine (must be over 2% tinticture)
31. N-phenethyl-4-piperidone
The following are necessary essential chemicals
list of essential chemicals:
1. Acetic anhydride
2. Acetone
3. Benzyl chloride (4 kg)
4. Ethyl ether
5. Potassium permanganate
6. 2-Butanone
7. Toluene
8. Acetic anhydride
9. Benzyl chloride
10. Ethyl ether
11. Potassium permanganate
12. 2-Butatone
13. Toluene
14. lodine
15.Acetone
process
This is an example of the Leuckart-Wallach reaction. This reaction converts aldehydes or ketones to amines by reductive amination in the presence of heat. The Leuckart-Wallach can convert phenylacetone into meth. The process that will occur is shown in a diagram below:
the process of creating phenylacetone is shown in the diagram below:
the process of creating N-methylformamide is shown below:
To test the two productsi in a glass test tube there should be one part N-methylformamide for every two parts phenylacetone for the reaction, at this point simply putting them together in a test tube will cause them to mix together. The Leuckart-Wallach reaction method is highly sensitive and if not done right will create a red like tar substance instead of the desired methanphetamine, if a red tar like substance is created as a result of the N-methylformamide and phenylacetone reacting in the test tube then there was water present in the reaction and the process to create both chemicals must be restarted.
If the red tar like substance is not created then the full reaction between the N-methylformamide and phenylacetone may proceed. For the full reaction there must be one part phenylacetonefor every 2.5 parts N-methylformamide. Though apparently the amount of N-methylformamide can vary from 2 parts to 3 parts and still be perfectly fine to react. The two chemicals should be mixed together in a 500ml round bottom flask, the flask should be set in a container filled 2/3 of the way with oil on a burner to apply even heat throughout the flask as the chemicals react. The oil may be vegetable oil or a subsitute oil which can similarly evenly distribute heat through the round bottom flask as desired. A metal pan is fine container for the oil as it will allow the contents of the glass round bottom flask to be seen. As heat is applied the contents of the flask should be stirred regularly with a thermometer. The temperature of the oil bath should be brought to 100° C over the course of 45 minutes or so. Once it reaches this temperatuee, the heat is turned back down so that the chemicals may stabilize at this point. Every degree of temperature must be closely monitored from this point forward. The temperature of the contents of the flask is heated up to 105° C. The chemicals in the flask must bestirred every 15 minutes. At about 105° C, the reaction will start, although sometimes the mixture's temperature must go as high as 110° C before the reaction starts When the reaction starts, the contents of the flask begin to bubble. After the reaction starts the temperature must be lowered down to the initial heat that the mixture started to react at. It may be left at this state for several hours. Tap water flow is proper for use in the condenser. The heat should be turned on to the 500 ml flask, and a gentle rate of boiling is to be maintained for 2 hours. The mixture should turn black. The reaction going on here is methamphetamine formyl amide. his is a hydrolysis reaction. After the two hours have passed, the heat to the flask is turned off. While the flask is cooling down, 80 grams of sodium hydroxide and 250 ml of water are mixed in a 1000 ml round bottom flask. When both flasks have cooled down, the black reaction mixture is cautiously added to the sodium hydroxide solution. It is added in small portions, and then swirled around to mix it. They react together quite violently. The reaction here is sodium hydroxide reacting with hydrochloric acid to produce table salt, with formic acid to produce sodium formate, and with methamphetamine hydrochloride to produce methamphetamine free base. At this point the mixture must be distilled. The salt will form at the bottom of the flask and not react with the liquid substance within, After the mixture is distilled either toluene or ethyl can be used as the solvent to make the crystals in. With whatever solvent is used the insides of the condenser, vacuum adapter and 250 ml flask must be rinsed to get out the methamphetamine clinging to the glass. This rinse is poured in with the product. Solvent is added to each of the Erlenmeyer flasks until the volume of liquid is 300 ml. They are mixed by swirling. Then the sulfuric acid is then added to the solution and anair blower is started to slowly keep the fumes of dry HCI flowing into the meth free base rather than ever being sucked backwards.Within a minute of bubbling, white crystals begin to appear in the solution. to filter the crystals out. There should be a small amount of formic acid added as it acts as a catalyst. The formic acid should be buffered by the presence of free methylamine, to prevent the pH of the reaction mixture from falling too low and becoming acidic. The presence of water in the reaction mixture will cause the reaction to not happen. It prevents the phenylacetone from dissolving in the N-methylformamide, which creates low yields of purple-colored crystal. The filtering flask and Buchner funnel are set up now. The drain stem of the Buchner funnel must extend through the rubber stopper, because methamphetamine will dissolve rubber. A piece of filter paper must cover the flat bottom of the Buchner funnel. The vacuum is turned on and the hose attached to the vacuum nipple. Then the crystals are poured into the Buchner funnel. The solvent and the uncrystallized methamphetamine pass through the filter paper and the crystals stay in the Buchner funnel as a solid cake. About 15 ml of solvent is poured into the Erlenmeyer flask. The top of the flask must be covered and shaken to suspend the crystals left clinging to the sides. This is also poured into the Buchner funnel. Finally, another 15 ml of solvent is poured over the top of the filter cake.after this the vacuum hose is disconnected and the Buchner funnel. All of the filtered solvent is poured back into the Erlenmeyer flask it came from. It is returned to the HCI source for more bubbling. The Buchner funnel is put back into the top of the filtering flask. It still contains the filter cake of methamphetamine crystals. The vacuum shluld be turned back on, the vacuum hose must be attached to the filtering flask, and the top of the Buchner funnel is covered. The vacuum builds and removes most of the solvent from the filter cake. as the filtering process continues, one flask is being filtered while the other one is being bubbled with HCl. Solvent is added to the Erlenmeyer flask to keep their volumes at 300 ml. Eventually, after each flask has been bubbled for about seven times, no more crystal will come out and production process is finished.
the end
Thank you for reading this far, please keep in mind that this process is illegal and that replicating any of it in part or in whole should not be done. Meth is a terrible substance that should not be consumed. I do not support the production or consumption of any illicit materials and neither does rdrama.net
Join me for the next edition of LAPPLAND'S CHEMICAL SERIES where I will teach the members of !cuteandvalid how to create estrogen for the use in male to female transitioning with just a plastic bag and a bathtub.
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Lmfao, lol even
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.louisfreeh.html
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This is taken from the same source I referenced
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You really should have copied you're introduction from that source as well
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I think that you just made up whatever that is and you're messing with me.
ALSO THAT ISN'T VERY NICE
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SWIM thinks you need to report to the showers at Auzhoomwitz for delousing.
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SWIM thanks that you are breaking the NICEPosting™ pact.
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I can’t be, SWIM said that and SWIM thinks SWIY is a FRICKING R-SLUR
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Thanks but don't know how I should out that into effect with writing this.
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Its for plausible deniability to prevent government infetterance
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Which has now been completely destroyed and everybody in this thread is getting v&
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I don't even think that's a word.
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I don't know either lol.
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do more drugs cute twink
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Neighbor have u ever been on erowid? Cmon brah
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No I'm not a druggie.
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It's the og 'in Minecraft' r-slur
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Seriously zoomers are absolutely fricking r-slurred when it comes to context clues
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the r-slurred ones give the rest of us a bad name
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bluelight posters assemble
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I also don't know what that is
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It’s the original (in Minecraft) from back before smartphones ruined the internet
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SWIM… oh you’re a fish hahahaha I get it now
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I see
https://old.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/1jvhhl/interesting_use_of_swim_as_a_pronoun_on_an/
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Back in the day when you needed to sit down at a computer to use the internet you’d go on drug forums like Erowid and you’d never use I/me, just Someone Who Isn’t Me as first person pronouns, and Someone Who Isn’t You for instructionals or responding to SWIM. That way you can’t get in trouble because you clearly said someone who isn’t you did that, and you clearly told that guy who ate 2 grams of DPH and is now a half-vegetable fighting shadow people for the final 8 years of his life not to do it, the advice you were offering was for someone who isn’t him
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😲
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This should be a test question to sign up for this very exclusive dating site
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Saved so I can REPORT THIS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT at a later time
Could you also do cocaine?
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I could write about that process at some point.
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Please do, I was always curious about cocaine, but only if its really pure. Maybe if Im an old boomer who doesnt give a shit anymore Ill try to make some myself, and afterwards turn myself in to law enforcement agencies.
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Well cocaine comes from processing the coca plant leaves which requires several chemicals in a process known as an acid-base extraction, so I will try to look into that as far as I can as I do not believe there is any kind of step by step source that I could pull from like I did with this. Unfortunately if you're outside of South America I don't believe that you could easily grow it.
I think there is a process in which you can extract cocaine from anything it was cut with to have a 100% pure product but that doesn't exactly fit with the theme I want in this series of posts.
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https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/cocaine.illicit.production.html
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I love how much detail this includes just to rub your face in the fact that you'll never be able to purchase even one of the ingredients
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Do you think it would be achievable to do it at home if you got the plant?
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I don't see why not. I'd think it'd take a lot of coca leaves though, from pictures of the process I've seen online it looks like they need large beds worth of leaves to create it. Though maybe that's just because of they amount produced.
If you do have a plant you could just chew or make a tea of the leaves.
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You can't boof em though
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Not really. Under less than ideal indoor conditions you'd need an annoyingly large qty of material to get even a pure gram.
There used to be a grey area route to get some source plant matter by ordering "inca tea" from online headshops based in south america, which was essentially just dried coca leaf that "supposedly" had a low enough concentration of alkaloids to get thru customs to the US, but im sure the feds are wise to that by now (this was already pretty sketchy 15-20 years ago). IIRC, it was something silly like 1lb of inca tea would yield 1 gram pure.
As I'm sure you can imagine, 1lb of dried leaves is like a trash bag sized amount, and not exactly inconspicuous when being shipped from Bolivia lol
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Is it even possible to grow the precursor in NA?
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It definitely is indoors. The problem is all the equipment needed to turn the plant into cocaine makes it impossible to just set up some lights in the attic and enjoy God's medicine Also it's just cheaper and easier to produce it somewhere where it's legal to grow and both the land and labor are cheap.
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And to then subsidize the murderous gangs who traffic it into America? I'm pretty edgy but supporting that feels gross.
I feel like you could immediately process the raw material into at least the first intermediate without too much structure beyond the greenhouse.
Stomping on it in a gasoline bath, iirc?
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I'm not even being edgy that's a part of the appeal. People could've died so I could put $40 up my nose off some biker's phone in the bathroom of a dive bar.
If SWIY wants an ethical alternative to coke, smash up Addys and cut them with Novocaine then
I don't really know the details because I'm trash at chemistry. I just watched a vice documentary years back. It looked like about a dozen guys would spend all year on maybe a dozen acres and get a yield of a few kilos. That's just not worth the risk.
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Im p sure I could make an ounce last a year since I'd only be sharing with one person at a time
Also I prefer the perpetrator role if I'm going to be involved in any murders.
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Your typical 2 square meter weed grow box would yield less than a quarter of a gram per year if you can even scale the extraction process down enough, it's all a question of space.
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https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/psychedelicchemistry/chapter8.html
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You should be allowed to make meth if it's for personal consumption. I can't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to
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It is in Oregon now.
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solid post.
here i will help.
"SWIM is an acronym for “someone who isn’t me”. Many people use SWIM when telling some story about them doing something unpleasant, to avoid reprimand. They say something like, “So and so got drunk and hit a stray dog.” Or “SWIM ate an entire bag of oranges when stoned and now they have been on the potty with running stomach for the last hour.” Usually, they believe it would provide some identity concealment or legal protection when talking about something they should not be admitting to."
i remember this writing style used to be really popular on online forums (particularly drug forums) like 20 years ago.
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Thank you very much that actually makes sense.
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Too much fricking work
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I'd need to be on meth to have the energy to follow all these instructions.
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Isn't that super hard to get? That's an LSD precursor
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Yeah he listed the precursors to a bunch of random drugs, not just meth. Copypasta fail
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When I was just out of college and living the poor life, I lived in an apartment complex that kinda sucked. That said, it was cheap and close to the beach and bars, so I didn’t care.
There was this older chick down the hall that had the same laundry schedule as me, so we got to talking. Eventually, as cokeheads do, we got on the fact that we both liked to do coke.
That next weekend, we went out to the bars. We came back, and I was stoked as frick, because she had a bunch of chicks there doing coke with us. They weren’t anything special, but I was in my early 20s looking at a bunch of horny yayed out chicks in their 30s.
All of a sudden, my neighbor whips out a fricking meth pipe. Me, I’m like wtf, let’s find a coke whore and bail out. Of course, all the chicks there are fiending for a hit of meth. The one I’d already been making out with wanted me to shotgun a hit of meth with her.
I didn’t, but I did have s*x with her that night, only to never call her again. And that is how I learned what a methhead looks like.
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This is the fault of colombian cartels and the DEA. If those hoes had access to quality coke they would be soft, healthy, and riding BBC daily as god intended
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look im gunna have 2 ask u 2 keep ur giant dumps in the potty not in my replys 😷😷😷
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the bioavalibility of meth is super low so remember, collect your local tweakers piss for a crazy high
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Also, would love an mdma instructable with sourcing recommendations for precursors. Some guy asked me to make it for him back in the day and gave me a bottle of white camphor oil so I just gave up for ten years
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I'll see what I can do. I intend to do more write ups like this on things that interest me.
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I was planning to follow Shrike's synthesis but was never able to find brown camphor. Someday I might just try to grow the tree
And thanks in advance if you do!
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I will look into processes for creating it soon, I already plan to do a write up on diy hrt/shine as I mentioned because I find that to be pretty weird and funny. I also have found processes for creating lsd and chemical explosives though I think posting the latter would get me into actual trouble.
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LSD would be another interesting one, the organic precursor is again very hard to source. I remember the synthesis being much more difficult than mdma as well
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Please you don't have to do this. You can still listen to the Vengaboys when you're just drunk.
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It's not for me
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Any reason to bother with this if I already have an adderall scrip?
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No you should not because meth is illegal and adderall prescription is perfectly legal.
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No. Adderall is really good at keeping you to relatively safe levels. Never done meth, but my understanding is you can get insanely fricked up in a bad way before physical side effects stop you.
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It's always puzzled me that there is no well-known synthesis for amphetamines, when everyone knows how sketchy meth is
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Yeah every country could mass produce it for virtually no cost already in WW2.
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So why not hobos
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Can I be the Jesse Pinkman to your Walter White
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yes lets do research together
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If you do want to help I'd like the next and further posts in this series to look a little more professional with actual references and everything.
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Make sure to use Scihub to bypass and pirate any paywalled research papers
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Im kinda stupid and bad at writing so I dont know how much i could help but sure!
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You could peer review it for me actually.
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I would love to!
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I forgot to add this to the post. My references for this write up were
"Advanced Techniques of Clandestine Psychedelic and Amphetamine Manufacture"
and
"Secrets of Methamphetamine Manufacture 8th Edition: Including Recipes For MDA, Ecstacy and Other Psychedelic Amphetamines"
Both books were written by Uncle Fester and are easily available online for further reading.
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Snapshots:
rdrama.net:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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Anyone who tries this please livestream it so we can all see the explosion
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if i kill myself i will make it look like a vaxxident
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Yeah I'm thinking based
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My shitty shake and bake prolly produces higher grade shit I give it an F+
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I don’t understand all these science words. Just tell me how much drain cleaner goes into the empty Mountain Dew bottle.
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@Lapp are you a fellow chemistry chad irl
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If you want to save us some time filling in two subpoenas PM me your address so I can just file the warrant.
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thanks screenshotted in case i ever need to remember how bad meth is
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DMT is also a terrible drug, you should do it next so i don't have to look up how to not make it
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I've seen some pretty in depth guides online I'll see what I can do.
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Something involving lye and naphtha.
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Why would you go through the trouble and risk of cooking your own meth when you can literally buy cartel meth (made by experts ) for a fraction of the cost of making your own?
Thanks team 👍
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Don't want to talk to scary brown people
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my grandpa has cancer
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The only thing more r-slurred than this post is your brain. Keep yourself safe immediately.
TOTAL ZOOMER DEATH NOW
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This explains a lot
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I vacuumed a coal mine today and counted the particulates just for fun.
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