https://old.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1cuzdxo/til_at_first_andrew_johnson_wanted_the/
/h/erstory
911roofer
he/him
Always a wallflower, never a wall
6mo ago
(reddit.com)
412 thread views
#270003
Redditards and the confederacy
- 49
- 19
Top Poster of the Day:
peepeehands
Current Registered Users: 28,684
Is it really dramatic? Then just put it in the main feed.
Is it chuddy? (Be honest.) Then /h/chudrama.
Is it from back in old boomer times or before?
This is the place for it.
Feel free to talk about history here at
whatever level of seriousness you feel like.
/h/erstory SETTINGS /h/erstory LOG /h/erstory MODS /h/erstory EXILEES /h/erstory FOLLOWERS /h/erstory BLOCKERS
Current software version: dea6a9e
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
IDK why people hate the Confederacy so much. Sure, they touched off a civil war for slavery, but their underlying concerns about Congressional and executive authority were at worst something to consider, and probably were right. The same people who kvetch about slavery unironically won't talk about slavery in today's world, where there are literally slave markets and slave like conditions in the middle east.
Like, I'm not a neoconfederate. I just don't get all the asshurt yanklets who get mad at the idea of a civil war 150 years ago. Like if two veterans who shot at each other fifty years ago in a contemporary reunion can embrace each other after shooting at one another in total war, then some fifteen year old groomercord user can find nuance in a poor white dude from Appalachia fighting to protect what little he had from a slash and burn army campaign.
For ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1913_Gettysburg_reunion
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
People have been taught the Civil war was over slavery and nothing but slavery for at least a couple decades now. Any nuances have been boiled into an unquestioned conflict of literal good vs evil and if you even hint that might not be true you're at minimum a racist. In many people's minds there's absolutely nothing to think about or consider.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I'm a 40 year old boomer so I consider Carl Schurz my contemporary.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You can go farther than that
An excerpt from an Alexander Stevens speech. But somehow it was about “le state rights and government overreach”
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Cope. Dixies abused federal powers to keep slavery alive.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Nooooo the federal government can't do anything
... except kidnap random citizens off the streets of your town because of their skin color.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
!dixie probably the best take I've heard
in a while
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Because they wouldn't kiss on the lips in public
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
People hate the Confederacy so much because it's a performative gesture to virtue signal how anti-racist they are. Just like the r-slurs that think the Three-fifths Compromise was about dehumanizing black people.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Actually, slave owners being able to vote for their slaves was good for black people.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
I do it because my ancestors committed war crimes against them that were not "performative".
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context