My great-grandfather poisoned drinkers during Prohibition

they began mixing poison – yes, poison – with industrial alcohol to prevent people from distilling and drinking it

What a stupid b-word. We still do this today. If you were allowed to make alcohol out of oil or corn and sell it in gallon jugs at the liquor store it would cost practically nothing. The only difference is that back then only industrial alcohol was legal.

We cannot 'motivate' people out of addiction or mental illness by withholding empathy, compassion and treatment... Our cultural attitudes toward mental illness and addiction remain as much about moralising the person as they are about targeting a disease.

I haven't had a drink in about a month. Is that because I have found some new courage in my heart? Is it from attending AA meetings? Is it from getting "treatment" for my alcoholism as a mental health problem?

No. The "treatment" I went through was all counter-productive, dehumanizing, Kafkaesque bullshit that just made me way more likely to relapse. What's stopping me is that the last couple times I drank I got really fricking horribly ill. Now even thinking about booze makes me nauseated.

For most Americans, the legacy of Prohibition evokes images of speakeasies, gangsters, rum runners and illegal distilleries.

It evokes images of stuff that's evocative? No shit. When I think of the Prohibition era those images come to my mind too because it's a heck of a lot more interesting than visualizing a lot of people not drinking or drinking only in moderation. The Untouchables is a little more exciting than imagining a guy in Ohio going home to his family after his shift ends at the assembly line instead of a bar.

Notice that the dopers and their sympathizers always make arguments like this, that Prohibition was ineffective because they saw a fictional movie about it once. What they don't like talking about it is that alcohol consumption went way way down during those years. I mean ffs, is anybody really stupid enough to believe that the price and availability of alcohol had no impact on anyone's decision-making? There's only 4 possible ways you could come up with this idea:

• You're independently wealthy so you never have to think about the price of anything.

• You've never actually done any legit serious drinking in your life.

• You're doing motivated reasoning because you want an excuse to legalize more drugs.

• You're a complete total fricking r-slur.

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!poll_voters !historychads was Prohibition the right thing to do?

Should the Volstead Act and the 18th amendment be brought back?

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>he was a bureaucrat who denatured alcohol

I was hoping for a bootlegger who spiked his hooch because he hated addicts, like leaving baggies of coke+fent around club bathrooms.

Wayne B was gratified and unrepentant: 'The person who drinks this industrial alcohol,' he reasoned, 'is a deliberate suicide.' Wayne B washed his hands of these deaths, comfortable in the conviction that people who drank alcohol illegally and died had simply got what was coming to them.

like duh, he was so against alcohol because of the history of alcoholism in his family, and he didn't care if people died from the poison because he knew people would die from the lack of poison as well. That's not "ironic", it's simply logical.

good . neighbors b doin to much wid dis alcolism shii mane

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