American cultural norms could be making us fat.
A new study looked at the effects of societal traits on obesity rates — and it found that countries that value individualism have higher body mass indexes in males.
Published in the journal Social Science & Medicine, the study examined data from 51 countries to find out why there is so much variation in global obesity rates.
While economic prosperity is an important factor — with wealthier nations having greater access to food and lower levels of physical activity — it doesn’t explain why some less-developed countries have high levels of obesity (Egypt, Jordan, Mexico) and more developed ones don’t (Japan, South Korea, Singapore).
The study found that those latter countries were more “flexible.” In other words, they prioritize thrift, discipline, self control and delaying gratification — all behaviors that can help with weight control. They were also slimmer across the board.
Meanwhile, countries that valued individualism — such as the United States and those in Northwestern Europe, as well as some in Latin America — are more headstrong about personal independence and choices. Men in these countries tended to be heftier, although it was surprisingly not a factor when it comes to women.
While the study acknowledged that genetics and diet — particularly the fatty, processed and sugary foods Americans love — contribute to obesity, it found that national culture also played an underdiscussed role.
The findings resonated with Dr. George Fielding, a bariatric surgeon and professor of surgery at New York University.
“I’m not trying to be crass, but fat is the new normal here,” Fielding told The Post.
“Culturally, it’s fine to be considered fat. Britain and Australia are the same. Most of the people making national health policies are aiming it at individuals to eat less and exercise more, rather than look at the [societal] cost of health care and early death.”
As of 2020, the prevalence of obesity among adults was 41.9% in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Obesity — one of the leading causes of death globally — is linked to a myriad of life-shortening illnesses including Type 2 diabetes, many cancers and cardiovascular disease.
“On the flip side, in Asian countries, there’s a belief you should comply with restraint, which is not inherent in American culture,” said Fielding. “There are rules, and you are supposed to follow the rules.”
As for the difference between male and female obesity rates in “individualist” countries, the surgeon said he sees the dynamic play out in his own practice — where women outnumber men for bariatric surgery 3 to 1.
“Men in particular think, ‘I’m an individual, don’t tell me what to do. I’m going to eat what I want,’ ” said Fielding, who notes that surgery should be considered once a person’s BMI hits 40.
He said female patients seek interventions because they feel terrible, while his male patients are motivated to lose weight once they’ve become ill due to diabetes, high blood pressure or heart ailments.
Fielding, who called obesity a “national disaster,” added that other societal factors play into our collective weight issues.
“Fewer and fewer jobs require physical exertion, and you don’t have to work hard to get food anymore,” he said. “We have heaps of processed food, and we are bombarded with advertisements for it. It all plays a big part.”
As for reversing the trend, Fielding said it’s an uphill battle: “How do you institute a national policy in a country where you can’t tell anyone anything?”
But he said that acknowledging America’s obesity problem — now verboten in polite society — would help.
“It’s the new normal, and how dare you be mean to the new normal?” Fielding said. “The people out there who are fat, they think that’s how it is now.”
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Carp in the machine.
Deux(rama) carp ex machina.
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TL;DR: fat shaming works.
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Tldr the nanny state is the only thing keeping any other country safe or they'd be just like burgers.
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The ancients proved right once again
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scrotes own ur doc by killing urself
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chill out fattest demographic in america
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no ❤️
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It's actually funnier
So when men get really fat, they're more likely to have a moment of introspection and change their habits to lose weight.
Women, of course, seem to lack this ability.
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u inkwell lmaooo I read it diff like women go in first bc they feel like shit while scrotes need outside evidence to confirm they feel like shit
..that’s stupider scrote
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Real talk though, women stop feeling pretty and either desperately fix it or give up entirely without any care whatsoever about health.
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u gon die alone inkwell seeing only ur own confirmation bias
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I should inform my fiance.
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That wasn't an insult, it was a promise. Watch the rooftops around your fiance
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Some insane lady scratched her with her fake nails while restrained during her rotation in the involuntary commitment part of the hospital yesterday. Was that you?
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I was giving you sage advice that this crazy southern belle butt hoe was going to JFK your soon to be wife, not that i was, you stupid twink.
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Or maybe you're just r-slurred and can't read
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def bb but ur also a scrote who only reads what he wants to read
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I dont believe that for a second, especially not in burgerstan
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Yeah like I really don't get their point. The only difference they explicitely show between men and women is that women get surgery more often out of shame... And that's it? Why do they bring up different countries as example even though both sexes have high obesity % in fat countries and low % in skinny countries?
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I think they mean a culture of individualism did not have an effect on women’s obesity rate. Not that women aren’t obese (they are).
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fun train trick: deliberately sit next to a fat person when you get on, repeatedly ask them 'if you can move over a bit, you're on my side of the seat' even if they're not
the look on their face lmao
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What's poverty like?
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im not poor im just big boned
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Then why are you on a train neighbor? This isn't 1870, and you aren't named rockefeller, so what's poverty like.
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let me rephrase
im not poor, im just large boned
idk how ur not getting this
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Then why are you on a train?
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So I can bully fats and zoomers.
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How does it explain the Arab world tho which is fat af and also very socially authoritarian
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Too many gibs = fat sand nogs
Trans lives matter
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Being fat there is like showing off your Mercedes AMG.
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aren't more women fat than men?
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nooticing bad
clapping good
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Yes, but the gap between women and men is bigger in some countries than others.
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Bullshit, they handwave away ME because it directly contradict them
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It just means women are equally fat in both kinds of societies
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If you're not free to be a fat frick being a golden fitness God is not impressive. I need contrast to really stand out(and to lose 10 lbs )
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I unironically discard the opinion of anyone who describes americans as having an obsession with freedom. A) it's a fascists theocracy LOL and B) that's like having an obsession with breathing air.
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Stop making my heart ache
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The bouncing scooters are really top-tier btw
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Probably from the same doctors who said hiking is white supremacy
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We aren't truly free until we have over-the-counter performance-enhancing drugs. Get the burgers on 120 μg of clenbuterol.
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We can't even have OTC medicine for people that you can get OTC for livestock. Medical regulation is a joke in USA
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Individualism is a cancer that kills its host indiscriminately. It destroys community and the collective mental health of society. Literally the main reason we have so many disgusting failures forcing their poisonous lifestyles onto everyone else is because there was no community around them to straighten them out. Also the main reason people are so unhappy today. Humans are social animals, we arent meant to be isolated from group identity.
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