TLDR: Women and society did not tell men to be nice guys. These guys hear what they wanted to hear and came to their own bad conclusions. These guys WANTED to believe being nice would get them laid, even when NO ONE told them that was the case.
First of all, you're not nice if you expect a reward for it, so automatically guys ranting “Nice Guys Finish” are buttholes. Otherwise you wouldn't care that buttholes get laid because that would be irrelevant to you being nice. You would only care because you're only nice to get laid, which makes you an butthole too. Youre suppose to be nice because its theright thing to do.
“Be nice and girls will like you” is advice mothers give to kids. Why are men's understanding of dating not evolving with their age? Also, like I said before, when mothers say “be nice” who thinks that was code for “Being nice is sexually attractive and every women will get wet for you”? And I truly do not understand guys who look for their mother to give them a advice on how to get kitty. That's such a red flag.
Lastly, when Nice Guys explain that “society lied to them”: If it's not blaming mommy for not teaching them how to make kitties wet (because that's TOTALLY the role of a mom), it's blaming it on Rom-Coms. I don't know how a person can graduate middle school and still think movies are real life. Even back in elementary school, I knew romance stories were bullshit, so I don't understand how a grown man didn't figure this out yet and is so bitter about it.
I honestly think there is a problem with a lot of mentally stunted men being unaware how stunted they are because there are too many people in this subreddit normalizing blindly learning shit from movies.
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Sure, and then when you ask "what will get women wet for me" instead you will run into the obvious catch-22 with some variant of the "only a hopeless incel would even ask this question, so try fixing that" response.
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Just be yourself, unless you're terrible, in which case be better, sweaty.
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OP is right, not being a giant crying kitty is the first step
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