Is The Sopranos just a bunch of weird gumbas doing unfunny SNL skits about "The Cosa Nostra" and trying to be the male version of Grey's Anatomy? [Lots of kino experts will defend this I'm guessing]

I watched it recently, if you grew up around Italian Americans it hits different cause they all talk exactly like they're characters from the Sopranos. That being said I thought it was good cause it was funny but I didn't think it was the greatest of all time besides being incredibly quotable

Have you met hardcore Italian Americans? Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Loool gonna watch this post for hot takes. Its essentially like those shows about rich women like Real Housewives of Orange County but Real Mobsters of Jersey instead. The emotional drama makes it fun tho.

To be honest, I never even remotely understand the massive amounts of praise heaped on The Sopranos. It's the ultimate "I don't care what happens to these people" kind of story. If you're going to make a show where every single character is extremely unlikeable and unsympathetic, then the characters should at least be interesting, but none of the characters on The Sopranos are the slightest bit interesting (least of all Tony Soprano), and it is absolutely impossible to care in the slightest what happens to any of them. The overall effect of the show is comparable to that of watching caged animals kill each other.

>My son AJ is a frickup. I'm going to frick hookers now. My daughter is dating a rival wise guy's son, I'm going to beat him up and frick hookers now. My sister is a frickup, I'm going to frick hookers now. One of my closest henchmen is a snitch, I'm going to kill him and frick hookers now. My protege whom I loved is a druggies, I'm going to kill him, go to vegas, do peyote and oh, also I'm going to frick hookers now.

How is that melodramatic? That sounds like a very reasonable amount of drama for a television show. Did you just want it to be slice of life or something where his life and business are all going fine? Presumably not since your preferred shows are about a law enforcement team breaking up large criminal enterprises, a nuclear meltdown, and the Allied invasion of Europe...

Not that that's even what melodrama is, melodrama is specifically about prioritizing drama over character, but The Sopranos isn't even that dramatic and is extremely character-based. That's what the show is famous for. The characters and their characterization leads to the drama, especially in your specific examples.

My theory has always been that it was the first show with American sized actors for American sized audiences, so for the first time Americans could feel truly represented on screen without it coming across as a mockery of how fat they are. Combine that with a middling quality drama and it feels like top grade material to the average American of the 2000s.

I like stories about bad people, especially stories that don't beat me over the head about how bad they are. I just get to see it unravel myself.

Plus it's a great background show when I'm doing other shit.

Good Show.

I'm rewatching it now (about halfway thru season 5) I don't think I ever saw season six. (I know how it ends) I think what made it good was that it makes mob life looks so unglamorous. Tony spends half his time cleaning up his idiot crews frickups, and unlike most mob movies/shows it focuses a lot more on his family life as well

It's a pretty funny show

Pasta-Americans are melodramatic because they're mostly from Sicilian stock, meanwhile South America got a majority of Northern italians which is why they behave more normally.

The Sopranos is an accurate representation of Pasta-Americans as understood by early 20th century racial !ifrickinglovescience

Plus the late 1990s tv produced mediocre dramas, so any mobslop could blow everything out of the water

Yes, I hate it. I think it was big when it came out because every major show on HBO got fetishized as high quality in the 90s/00s and this was the man version of that kind of show, so men watched it, and now it's a meme.

It's shitty r-slurred people doing shitty r-slurred things and it's boring and annoying and equivalent to Lena Dunham's Girls. The superior HBO show is Entourage because it's still about r-slurs, but they're mainly about having fun and being bros.

UP IN DAH CLUB

Watching and reading about Bardfinn made me change my life

I've been in a rut for the past few years because of a bereavement. Finished college but didn't get a job for a few years. I found some joy in communities like /r/drama because they reminded me of shit like 4chan and hackforums from back in the day.

But one day I was reading a comment by Bardfinn, clicked on his profile and it really made me want to change my life. I saw the next decades of my life flash before my eyes. Smugposting and bullying people who deserve it, but while not improving myself, gradually falling in to bad habits leading to me spending 18 hours a day in front of a computer before dying of DVT. I saw what Bardfinn did with his life and how he's now stuck in it. He won't get a job or ever pay child support because he's stuck in this life and constantly needs to justify it to himself. He's too invested in it to care about anything else. He unironically bragged about spending 80+ hour weeks 'fighting Nazis'. There is no hope for him.

But there was hope for me, and maybe for you too, reader.

Over the last few months I've been lifting again. Made some neat projects. Contributed to projects that interested me. Learned a lot. Got finances in order. Started hanging out with friends irl again. Sometimes I'd go to Bardfinn's profile and not even read, just see the wordswordswords and feel new motivation to apply for jobs. Got a few interviews and currently have two applications that might be my in.

I'm once again a productive member of society with a life, and it feels good.

Thank you for being so unbelievably and depressingly pathetic that you indirectly motivated me out of a rut through the fear of becoming anything like you, you wife beating, abusive, child support dodging c*nt.