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Hi, I'm Nick Offerman, the not-so-subtle stand-in for Donald Trump. I'm a little expensive these days, so you won't see me again until the end of the film. I'm unambiguously evil, and that's about all the writers could trust you with.
We're the most boring fricking characters ever put to film. I literally skipped all the scenes where these two have heart-to-hearts
ay mang i'm the cool self-insert, I have literally no character development whatsoever nor do I ever drive the plot. I played pablo escobar that one time
Worldbuilding
A civil war in america? Wow, lots to play with here, one can only imagine the vast array of characters, factions and locations you could have, not to mention the deep political commentar-
b-word you thought. There's just one faction called 'Western Forces', that's it, that's all you'll ever know about them. Also they're California and Texas, cos frick you, they famously agree on everything. trust me tho that president is a real bad hombre. Here's a pointless scene of me buying a hat. There's also something called the 'Florida Alliance' which I'll mention once but then forget about despite my being from there.
Oh, you wanted some exposition on how this thing started? That would be a little political sweety, can I interest you in a timewasting scene where we watch two guys snipe an unseen third guy?
Plot
being a journ*list is heroic, brave, and real. We literally never lie or act like cowards. I'll put this gay platitudinous message like a pill into the cheese of barely-passable action scenes in the hopes you'll lap it up. I'm gonna tie these action scenes together with a poorly written string of roadtrip sequences so it seems like a film.
then there's this shitty scene where the characters learn the power of love and friendship in some godforsaken hippie 
commie 
pinko liberal 
commune, by this point the nausea had reached a fever pitch 
oopsie 
spoilers! The film ends with a brave black QUEEN 
shooting the Trump Stand-in. She's all like. "y'all crackers don't season yo chicken" And then pops two in him. Everyone claps, racism is defeated. There is no denouement despite the pseudo-main character, played by a tremendously 
post-wall Kirsten Dunst 
, dying at the end.
The Good
This guy was awesome. I think he was an allegory for chuds and was supposed to appear kind of stupid or bumbling but was pretty menacing. He shot a 
and a 
There's an unintentionally funny scene at the beginning where a bunch of 
water priestesses and 
lunchtime rowdies are screamin bout dey stimulus cheqs, they're going 'WHERES MUH WADDAH' 'WHERES MAH FOOD' and they all get fricking blown to kingdom come by a 
. I think the libshit writers imagined this would be some heavy-hitting 'woah this film is the real deal' moment but it literally played like comedy, stonetoss could've written this scene
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Is this the Friday Night Lights guy? !mensfootball
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And breaking bad. Jesse Plemons is great in everything.
https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/230997/im-thinking-of-ending-things-a
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He was great
in season 
2 of the Fargo show too
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Fargo is a movie and I refuse to recognize a television series by that name.
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yeah that him
omg! also
Your QB like just became a cripple and his smoking hot GF is coming to you about it... what are you going to do???
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Ruck Figgins
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That's lance alright
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That doesn't look like J Cole, tbh
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It's literally one of the best movies I've seen recently, you have no taste.
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GroomercordBIPOCs just can't stop telling on themselves
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How is what I said in any way related to groomercord?
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Your chad womanly intuition vs quad's virgin basic observation
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You need to see more movies. This was mid at best.
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Is this bait are are you that r-slurred and wingcucked
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either way you are upset.
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Shit, do you thinknhe will let you borrow it, just for a bit?
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Me on the left
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I saw the scene of the journ*list talking pictures in the middle of the firefight and just thought how useless that is. Journ*lism is important when it uncovers new things not when it gets cool pics
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That type of journ*lism is important because it kills journ*lists
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MFW I see a journ*list acting in a combatant manner during a firefight
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IDF pilled
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That's why I like em
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fr, at the end they try to make it look like kristin dunst and drake's gf are moving with the tactical team dodging bulletts butt it jist looks like theyre getting in the way and getting crap photos anyway. Like people wouldve had to actively avoid shooting at them for them to not get shot. Like kristin dunst literally had to try and Drake's girlfriend is lile
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FLAG was a way better war journo story
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It was just heart of darkness but not as good as apocalypse now and also expected me to root for the journos for some fricking reason
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Oh.....*
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nooo
also like
im literally screaming, she was so hot in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
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"Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a 2004 film""
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i. didnt even recognize her
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That doesn't narrow it down.
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I thought it was Lamb at first
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I liked it
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wrong
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i liked it too
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I want all "lore" and "worldbuilding" strags to die in housefires. No one but neurodivergent internet freaks actually cares about this shit.
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yeah you on the other hand, crashing out on an internet forum, don't come off as an neurodivergent freak at all
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lmao, got his butt
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Characters, factions, and locations is not neurodivergent lore it's basic storytelling
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yeah buddy like im gonna follow and remember some two sentence backstory, lol. fricking nerds
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Basic story telling is for neurodivergent internet freaks. Trans lives matter
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It made thematic sense, there was a whole sequence where the old lass reminisced about reporting from irrelevant third world places where factions noone outside of them really knows or cares about, then bringing that treatment to the US
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Characters are only in the quote because he r-slurredly bundles them in with the film not being a HoI4 mod. The factions and locations literally do not matter because the film isn't about that? What does it being a internet forum LARP scenario actually add to the story the film is trying to tell? Nothing.
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Theres lots of places where those things matter, and It wasnt the point of this film, though, so they left it intentionally as vague as possible but go off i guess
Kirsten Dunst dying was some bullshit, though, and Bullet-proof vests were even a plot point earlier, and And the girl she dies for is an idiot that keeps getting them in trouble, usually under the guise of look at her, shes not an old cynic like us!
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Yes thats my point I just hate the internet "umm it doesn't have a good scenario for my wiki about it and is focused on something else so its bad". There is a difference between appreciating worldbuilding in the background of a story and doing what internet freaks did about Civil War.
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Internet freaks make discussing everything worse.
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I downloaded it ages ago and still haven't watched it. I'm kind of an Alex Garland fanboy too.
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do not bother
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Wait. When this movie came out, I was told it was politically neutral. Are you saying I was lied to?
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It is politically neutral, wingcucks can only interpret the world in terms of my team vs. their team
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it was actually pretty neutral, it was just a dumb/mid film
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It's politically neutral in that everyone in it is equally r-slurred, which given the protagonists are journos is really saying something
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You would enjoy more things if you weren't so triggered by brown people and women.
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Dw bb I'll pray for u
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It would never make up for the enjoyment @PillsburyDoughboy get out of being triggered by brown people and women. Trans lives matter
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i think if it was written by someone slightly more intelligent, it would be a vaguely alt-history scenario so the audience wouldn't be so peeved at the completely r-slurred portrayal of their country.
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I thought Kirsten was that girl Tilly from Star Trek Discovery
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Hot dang a blue helmet and it says you're a journo? That's a multiplier right there!
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Thats extremely catty of you, and
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The movie is good if you realize it's not really about America, it's about Syria/Libya/Sudan. We're desensitized to those conflicts, so the director applies an American gloss to them. A crashed helicopter in Damascus means nothing to us. But a crashed helicopter in a JC Penney parking lot hits home
That's why the politics is nonsensical -- it's not about American politics at all.
He's an amoral adrenaline junkie, you're not supposed to admire him
The whole plot of the movie is that the journ*lists are buttholes exploiting a senseless tragedy. Kristen Dunst realizes this at the end and sacrifices herself out of guilt
All the military factions are equally diverse. The President's (he's not even vaguely Trump-like) only soldier with a speaking role is also a Black woman
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Are you on the right?
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Good points but the UK Ad did it better
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still one of the most depressing videos on the internet.
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I'm so glad that isn't real. That seems really
bad
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I don't get how Nick Offerman's character is supposed to be Trump and I suspect that people who draw that connection have some insecurities about their political identity.
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He's just meant to be evil, trump is evil, QED
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The main indicator of his politics is that hes a dictator and his followers appear to like only be white people, and Not Trump-specific, but descriptors people have been applying to Trump for a decade
I agree its not supposed to be Trump, but you say white American dictator and thats literally all these people can think of and thats the tea, sis
I shouldnt bother with punctuation while queened
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Punctuation?
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Lmao
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The only follower with a speaking role is a Black woman
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I was thinking not of his direct employees/personal guard, but of Jesse Plemons, and that guy near the start with the hanged men behind the store, and the white woman with an American flag who blows herself up at the start
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None of them are explicitly aligned with the President. You assumed that because you're a wingcuck. In fact, Plemons is lightly hinted to be aligned with Western Forces.
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'Lightly hinted'. It's white nationalists vs their diverse victims, it's not Trump-specific but it's a choice that reads a certain way.
There's a difference between lore-obsession and trying to get your bearings in the world of a film. When it's 'modern US civil war' the mind finds patterns to try and make sense of it. I mostly agree with you, and that a lot of people jumped straight to Current Year. But while they avoided a lot of Current Year portrayals, intentionally, it's still inflected with modern Hollywood.
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I don't think Jesse Plemons' character was meant to be a supporter of President Ron Swanson. He honestly just seemed to be the type of backwoods, hick conspiratard who would use any opportunity they had to kill people that they didn't like. I work with a number of people like this, and for all their talk about "morals" and how godless and terrible liberals are, and how weak "cuckservatives" are, they still manage to remain worse than either of those groups by almost any metric.
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Ginger men are effeminate and weird looking I'd want a dark haired and hairy dude if I were gay.
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This was one of those movies that felt like it was 3-5 years too late to be innovative or culturally relevant, and as a result just comes off as cringey. No wonder A24 swept it under the rug
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They didnt, it was like just released a year ago
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imhk The Hunt is a way funner psudeo political film
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8244784/
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The Hunt and Die Welle are both way better.
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I didn't hate it but I think it was marketed wrong and they did a poor job of framing the story. It would have been a great movie about wartime coders with the backdrop of a new American civil war, they didn't have the budget or writers to do the civil war stuff right but tried to sneak it in anyway.
I did like that they made it clear foids can't be trusted. The young Queen coder got the older fat black guy and the older Queen killed. Not as good as Gyllenhaal playing a shutterbug but not everyone has that level of psychopathy. I would believe any story I heard about Gyllenhaal murdering people.
He played the same character he did in breaking bad.
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A24 movies suck. Especially Everything All At Once. That one is peak reddit.
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I really enjoyed it tbh. Just don't take it too seriously.
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EEAAO is just Evangelion but worse because no giant robots or reverse birth or 3-minute elevator scenes or depressive-breakdown-induced-abstract-ending
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So sick of multiverse movies. find another vehicle for your shitty plots and lazy ways to resolve story prollemz
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Tbh I don't really care and there's tons of examples of alliances in civil wars are out of convenience rather than ideology. I mean would anyone have thought that the Armenians would end up siding with the sunnis against the Maronites (
@Redactor0Boy)?
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Yeah, if full scale civil war ever broke out here it's likely that there would be multiple factions in cynical alliances with the people they're supposed to hate.
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I also think they did that to puposefully try and prevent reading in analogies to current politics but go off
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Honestly the worst part was how they portrayed the jurnos as heroes. They should have been propagandists working for one of the sides, and some of the background told thru that lens (pics of captured soldiers, interviews with them to get captions and shit) Would've been better if you knew more about what was going on and I think they could've done that without making it too political
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They're not heroes. They're portrayed as callous at best, if not WPD adrenaline junkies
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Nah, Kirstin dunce was a grizled Mary sue with her plucky naive side kick/ fan. It was pure "war is heck but people gotta know y'all"
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The dude was portrayed that way but not the women, they were 💯 presented as heroes
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So is it good?
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Good not great
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Is what good
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It's ok. If you pirate it you won't be asking for your money back.
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Its got some good bits
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i didnt care to watch the whole movie, but this scene was great...id watch a whole movie of him just doing what he did in this scene...
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Trump won no civil war, DIE dead, Fact cheek dead, move lost relevance
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I almost watched the movie
tonight. Thank you for saving me from having to watch 
something 
where 
a journoid 
is depicted as a hero. 
This movie 
sounds awful 
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me too
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I enjoyed this film, and felt that not getting into how this happened made it easier to focus on what was happening
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You're trying so fricking hard to map this story onto real world American politics when it's obvious the writers blatantly muddied things up to avoid that. The cause of the war and who's fighting on what side is just a Macguffin to justify the setting. It doesn't actually matter for the story it is trying to tell.
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What an r-slured comeback. Do you think Quentin Tarantino was lazy because he never revealed what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction?
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the fact that you think the two are comparable confirms my suspicion that I'm talking to barely literate moron
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Again, you're fricking r-slurred. You completely missed the point and had an emotional response solely because I mentioned those movies in the same sentence.
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