Movies haven't been doing well lately, to put it mildly, and lots of films that were supposed to have wide appeal failed to bring people at the cinema. The most famous ones being superheroes movies, whose main demographic is young white men. So, imagine the smug cooming if a movie made for black women would not only buck this trend but would also save cinema everywhere, proving once and for all that white men are useless and that diversity films are the way to the future...

The dream came close with The Color Purple, a movie about suffering black women (and faith, but no one on the internet mentions this). It had a great start at the boxoffice, with really high critic and audience scores and a great opening day, so soys all over rejoiced Tbf for the movie, it seemed that it was genuinely liked by it's target audience, older religious black women, and had good sales during Christmas, but as soon as the religious fervour died down and the movie had to rely on the general audience for legs... it started dropping badly to put it mildly.

CP/TCP - The Color Purple

OW - Opening Week/Opening Weekend (mostly probably the later since the movie hasn't been out for a week yet)

OD - Opening Day

Early reactions before the movie was out in the theatres

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I understand WHY the movie industry keeps recycling old stuff, but I dont have to like it. And I will not be spending money on anything that absolutely does not need a remake. This film in particular does not need a remake.

this isn't a remake.

It's an adaptation of the stage play.

It's not a remake it's just a remake!

This is a lesbian movie

They better NOt brush off the lesbian aspect of the film.

Steven Spielberg chickened out when it came to the lesbian aspect of the book. He admitted it himself.

Apparently the main character of the book finds Jebus due to her lover, but the past movie ignored this and made them friends

Will it keep the lesbian elements from the book? Heard this is based on musical. Did that one have it?

Reddit is absolutely obsessed with this lmao

Why did they remake this? The original is FLAWLESS.

Even with the whole Spielberg brushing off lesbian aspects in his film version?

What about the lesbian s*x chud?

Just what everyone was looking for: A SASSY adaptation.

It's a current year movie about black women after all

This is the first masterpiece of many they plan on trying to shove a remake of down our throats...why is it black folks are always the test subjects for bullshit like this?

Uhhh with all the remakes and reboots that have happened in the past years I'm positive this isnt a race thing😂 black people are not the test subjects if this is one of the few remakes of black films in a sea of remakes of fantasy, horror films, etc.

Yeah, i said remake of a masterpiece

It being a masterpiece has not stopped decades of remakes of other masterpieces. This is no different. And at least it's a musical.

You also said black people being test subjects of remakes which is objectively untrue based on the decades of remakes.

The argument keeps going after this and moves on to what movies are actually masterpieces

BOT

....I guess it's a different enough approach to warrant a remake? I mean, in my opinion, a remake is wholly unnecessary if the point of its conception is to just do the same movie over again with not more than a few differences and that fails to improve on the original in any major way possible (or doesn't even try to). If you can make a different, arguably superior narrative out of the same plot (or even if it's the same movie but done better in every way), then it dodges being pointless and lives up to what remakes should be all about. This being a musical will likely give it a wholly different vibe from the original, which was a bit of a somber/sentimental drama. If it doesn't work... whatever, at least they did a remake that wasn't a stupid idea for once. So, while I'm sure everyone will complain about this being another unwanted remake, let's stop for a moment and think that maybe this one doesn't sound so dumb after all when you consider that it will actually stray away from the original in the way that it tells its story. Both will stand on their own, even if it turns out that the measurement of quality between the two is lopsided. And The Color Purple wasn't even a perfect movie anyway, so there's room for improvement... it's not like this is The Godfather.

4th comment of the thread, a good start

What part of "Film of the Tony winning Musical" did you not read?

C'mon, man. You've legit just made the same (very condescending) post three times. Use the multiquote button or just make the post once.

Movie was just announced and BOT users are already attacking each other over it

Yeah this will be a big hit. Look at that cast and everybody loved the original.

The cast is some literally whos and the black mermaid Oh and Oprah is a producer or something if anyone still cares about her

This is really going to be big. Press tour is going to be crazy.

Same person... this thread has like 7 pages in total and most mildly popular movies go into at least the 20s, so there were already some signs pointing to the future disaster...

A grand opening and a great success!

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Here's a whole comment section where redditors jerk themselves raw over this movie potentially getting a perfect score

(Again, tbf it did get a really good score, an A. Problem was the movie's niche audience - black women were the only ones who watched on the same day and gave the movie a great score but the general audience who came later was less impressed. Which is also why the movie has both a mixed and a really good reception. It's also why word of mouth isn't going to save it. It would have been a hit on a smaller budget but Hollywood must Hollywood I guess )

Lol only on Reddit would anime be used to explain the lineage of A Color Purple.

Finally Halle Bailey is in a movie that won't let down her talent.

this is her first WB movie but the fact she can sing, write her own music, write music for a film, act, & has gp appeal is something getting more rare and rare nowadays. i'm rooting for her to get a good push in 2024-2026, WB or Disney need to make her huge. she's definitely one of the newer celebrities to deserve it.

Redditors are still simping hard for BLM

It's a niche movie IMO

Just say it's a black movie. My grandma and grandpop and all of their church folks will be taking off their Sunday hats and rushing to the theaters to see this. I'm tired of people using “niche” to diminish the black dollar. We're coming out and we're going to make it a hit. Period.

It's a black movie with a not advertised but significant L plot ...

Opens strong but has no legs after Sunday

What a plausible wet dream for you, for obvious reasons. I would block, but I appreciate you're not hiding your micro aggressions and are at least openly an L and an R.

No, we'll make it a hit you'll see!

It seems whoever was saying the movie was getting mixed reception was lying because it's at 88% right now off 34 reviews. The top critics scores is 95%. And the average score is 7.3/10.

The word on mixed reception starting coming in after the incredibly huge presales so now I'm wondering if that was just the wishful thinking from some people who were being downers.

Sometimes it pays to be patient

White straight middle-class dude from the suburbs here. After all the curveballs that the 2020s have thrown us, I find the history of the blues, jazz, and early rock and roll (which saw a lot of LGBT, poor, handicapped, and/or racial minorities find their voices) to be very inspiring in the face of all the "-isms" of the early 20th century as well as the resurgent racism, classism, and ultranationalism we have today.

As a white man I really love black people, so inspiring and brave!

I'm honestly surprised that All Audience rating is not in the potty since I expected the film to suffer from severe review bombings simply because Halle Bailey is in the film.

People really need to stop overestimating how much internet shit spills over in the real world, this is a bubble and nobody outside of it cares.

Movies don't flop because some internet weirdos are enraged, they flop if their whole audience is disinterested, but it's easier to blame a few annoying neurodivergents than face reality.

Whats wrong with Halle Bailey?

Same old argument about the Black Mermaid, if you're feeling nostalgic go read it

A musical about misery and a lesbian lead, who would thought the public would eat this up?

I've noticed a few users here trying to downplay it for this reason lol.

Can't have a gay musical with a black led cast winning the holidays

Well the public is apparently not eating it up

Watched the original don't need to watch a remake so everyone can suddenly forget what kind of horrible fake person Oprah became and is so hard pass

True, chuds need to remember that Oprah is still cancelled

You know, I think the juxtaposition of the musical numbers against the unrelenting horror of Celie's life was actually a great way to get an audience to experience the dissonance that comes with being a Black woman. Life can be as horrible as it is joyous and often times very close together, occasionally even simultaneously.

Yes! This is well said.

Only black women can feel such deep emotions and recover from them, truly magical creatures

It's very odd to try to figure out how they choose to balance the shocking, raw traumas from the book with the hopeful, upbeat tones….without also including the storyline of exactly how Shug shows Celie a whole new side of life

The movie is about a black woman who gets repeatedly r*ped by her father and then forced to give birth to the resulting children and who later discovers Jeebus and heals. Clearly the movie isn't deep enough if the two main protagonists are just being friends and helping each other get over their trauma or whatever, they MUST lick each other's coochies too

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Holy shit at the reactions frommlast night premiere. This will be big.

Same guy from before, unfortunately tulpa'ing this movie's success into existence is not possible

(there are also critics reactions on the same page and they are all impressed )

Would not be shocked if this outgrosed Aquaman and Wonka based on ticket sells for all 3 movies

It will not in fact outgross Wonka

Sorry I'm a bit out of the loop on this one. What is this movie again and why it seems so popular?

This is what happens when you only pay attention to "geek" movies and geek actors...... Soer of shocked this explanation was necessary.

Kinda shocked that some poster on an international forum doesn't know all the random art slops featuring a minority group that culturally exists only in America, what gives?

it's up to 66 for Metacrtic with 9 reviews , if it's stay around this number , he could be good because Wonka has 66 and he has a 85% on RT so it's be enough for a boost

So this movie beating up Wonka is BOT's cope of choice for some reason. I guess they have some vaguely overlapping audiences since they are both musicals but still, one is a family friendly colorful adventure and the other is about a lesbian r*ped by her father

The way this industry treats Black people, especially Black women, is so terrible. Groomers, cult members, and abusers can go so much farther with less talent and less success if they're male and white.

This is so facts. Like after Empire, she should have been in everything, but her team was like "no" because?????????????????????

This generally happens only if the actor is too difficult to work with

Yeah, she deserves better. Uncle Sam is a little b-word and needs to stop taking 50% of what we make. I remember people were also going after Margot Robbie because she dared to make money from Barbie. People just assumed she kept all that.

Wow, I wonder why rich people are demonized on the internet, like what started it? Also why are taxes on large profits so high, I can't figure it out!

Her issue isn't Uncle Sam or splitting costs with her team, she's done many interviews about this, her main issue is that black actresses don't make the same amount as their white counterparts and despite being an Emmy and Oscar nominee she still has to audition, for example she had to audition and fight for this role in The Color Purple. Most of her white counterparts get offered roles, they dont have to stay on the audition circuit. She also said she had to fight for Danielle and Fantasia's team to ask for a fair amount from the studio.

White actors are all getting roles without even looking for them unlike strong black wahmen who have to go to auditions and shit

You guys are not prepared for the enormous hit that Color Purple will be. I would not be shocked if it got $25 million on Christmas Day.

Oh, sounds interesting...

Too early to say but I expect a post Xmas collapse and Color Purple to mainly exploit that. I don't think Aquaman is going over Black Adam.

Too bad The Color Purple will also collapse after Christmas

Ehhh TCP and Aquaman have two different target audiences. I don't think one will exploit the other

Casuals that would otherwise go to Aquaman by default will go to TCP. I realize those aren't Aquaman's core but so few people care about a superhero movie that's already dead that it will get hurt by ANY competition.

I'm sorry but looking at Aquaman's target audience, I don't expect a bunch of 18-24 year old white guys to choose TCP default over Aquaman 2.

Oh yeah, Color Purple is such a wide pleasing blockbuster, everyone will want to see it

TCP 16M ish. Very low walkups.

Remember the user above that predicted a $25m opening day, now they are talking about $16m

There's no way it does only $16M. Nearly every showing in my area is like 80-90% full with even a few sellouts.

i mean your local area isn't necessarily representative of all of USA and CAN

Reality starts to sink in

Can't wait for people to pretend that this number is bad actually. Totally not gonna be obnoxious and irritating no siree

Too bad that number wasn't higher, it's not like it's making much money now

Okay but even multiple people on this forum have reported similar things regarding this movie. Don't get me wrong, $16M is still a good number, especially for a film of this kind, but I expected closer to $20M, especially after watching walkups help Aquabro and Migration exceed projections.

Those are movies you can actually watch on Christmas tho

Color Purple would still have to have historically bad holiday legs to miss 100. Think it ends somewhere between 120-150.

.... did anyone suggest it wouldn't get to $100 m dom?

A couple people in the tracking thread did this week. But there's been some fairly odd rhetoric about it in that thread that isn't reflective of the general opinion of the boards, for sure.

Those definitely are out of touch. TCP got to be some fanboys superhero movie to have that terrible legs. But it is not, TCP is a freaking Oscar player that opened during award season. That alone can give you some Oscar bump.

If the wolf of Wall Street get 100m with just 9.2m OD, and a freaking C+ cinemascore, TCP should get there with an eyes closed. It is 95% rated by audience which should at least translate to A cinemascore.

Stop predicting numbers in bad faith chud

It's fair to say that a $16 million OD Christmas movie missing $100m dom is unprecedented.

There is 0% chance TCP misses 100M with a 16M+ OD.

Never say never!

the color purple is about to be a WOM storm we haven't seen maybe all year. i went in knowing it would good but fantasia is fricking unreal in this. haven't seen a crowd this engaged in a very long time at the theaters. if OD really is 16, i think this has a shot at around 200+ domestic.

The WOM was good, unfortunately middle aged black women isn't exactly a large demographic

Just to be clear I never said TCP is gonna miss 100, I am just saying it is possible.

I gotta be honest, I don't get why you'd even bring this up before Cinemascore was up.

To be fair, he only mentioned that in this thread after another member said it was impossible TCP wouldn't reach 100M DOM. So, you should complaint to that member for bringing this up before Cinemascore was up.

The quote Charlie specifically made was in response to Clay's reasonable explanation that it was to pre-emptively shut up people who've been weird in the tracking thread, who Charlie proceeded to defend and then say it could miss 100 without any sign of that.

Clay may want to prevent a weird discussion, but he is just opening the door to that discussion by bringing up that topic. Charlie was only answering him with his own analysis.

Honestly, I just don't understand why you tried to call Charlie out for his answer. Maybe you don't like Charlie's analysis that TCP reaching 100M DOM isn't absolutely certain, but he didn't bring the topic out of nowhere on this thread (as Clay bring the topic first).

I explained it about as good as I can that deciding to defend those types of posts in the thread and genuinely try to argue that missing 100 million was doable pre-Cinemascore (Which a bunch of other people called out and agreed was just weird) is odd.

No, only positivity for black woman movie!

TCP Broadway musical reached 1500 performances (original + revival). I don't think you can make that only with a black audience. I think there Is a space to have WOM upon others targets too.

True, broadway musicals are a really good predictor for the general audience and not at all a nice and unironically privileged hobby

If it does follow the same path as The Woman King, then that is still $180,000,000+ in America

TCP's OD being on christmas throws that comp out of wack, though I'm still hoping it can reach that.

Then why bring up The Woman King in the first place? If it follows Dreamgirls, then it still gets to that number.

Not sure what's so hard to get...

I answered the poster by stating that while the best outcome would be for the film to break out to other demos, that's not a guarantee, and Woman King is a recent example of a film with excellent reviews and audience reception that still didn't manage to draw more demos to it

Of course that doesn't mean TCP will go that way, and Dreamgirls is an example of the opposite - all I said was that being excessively skewing to one demo is not necessarily a good thing, because it's possible those other demos just never come throug

And if the same percentage stays consistent for The Color Purple as it did for The Woman King, then it still gets to $180,000,000+. So, what is so hard to get about that?

Ok...let's try this one again. Yes, Woman King did do 10x its OD, but its OD was a regular friday, not christmas day, which boosts business considerably...

Why bring up The Woman King if the conditions are as disparate as you say? That just appears to be daft on your part then

I don't really get if you don't get my point or you're just trying to get some weird gotcha moment on me

This isn't some sort of projection on the legs, merely a statement that there is no guarantee of a film breaking out of its demo into spectacular legs regardless of reviews and reception

TWK had spectacular reviews from both critics and audience with a much-coveted A+ cinemascore, but ended up having rather normal legs

The sudden crash and burn

The movie was a star for a total of one day, immediately after Christmas it started dropping hard. Most posts here are after Color Purple had 2 massive drops, and in less than a week it dropped 80% from it's opening day - an absolutely horrendous performance. Today most movies had a mostly flat performance, even Aquaman dropped only 3% since yesterday, The Color Purple? 15%. Obviously, all good mood turned into crying and coping.

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I don't understand why so many had big hopes for this. 1, barely seen any promotions on this and 2, it's a very niche musical, it's a musical right? Maybe 150ww, but I also have no clue for how much this genre can make.

Oh, you know exactly why

The African-American story portrayed here doesn't resonate/interest people outside of America

At least some people are reasonable...

"A movie aimed at the adults performs worse when adults at work" - wow, seriously?

Some less so

Everyone went back to work. How much money do you realistically expect it to make on a Tuesday? I imagine more people are waiting until the weekend

This seems to be the chosen cope among redditors

If we lived in a world where films 'need' to be for everyone, we'd only ever have superhero movies.

If you're demographic is that narrow maybe think twice before approving a hundred million budget

Depends on streaming deals, tax credits and other such factors. Each episode of House of the Dragon cost $20mil for a $200mil budget and it's not going to make a single ticket sale.

Big budget films should be criticized but I don't think spending $100mil for a prestige piece is a bad business decision, it just won't be frontloaded with cash.

Ah, this "argument" again. The budget may very well have done more on its own as an investment vehicle or invested in a different film - aka an opportunity cost. I'm not sure how much it'll do on VOD either because it is burning out its demand.

I think it's more than fair to say that this performance is not good.

This is the exact same argument you'll hear about The Woman King, which also flopped, even if /r/boxoffice refuses to admit it even today

This was always going to be a niche film. It's not appropriate for children, honestly I think the subject matter is best for 18+. It's mostly going to appeal to women and probably older women (35+) If anyone is unfamiliar with the story, I would recommend starting with the book. At least read the Wiki plot

This comment speaks volume about Reddit demo. "Older women" cut off point = 35 years old? When I think about "older women" it's 50+, and they're reading airport romance.

hate to break it to you but the classic Hollywood demo cutoff of young vs. old is age 25 (four quadrant system)

Redditor knows nothing about how film business works yet still takes time to write angry messages about various -isms

Honestly this Reddit is a bunch of yt cis het dudes stuck in 1999. I saw a comment speaking about how this movie was gonna flop due to it being “political”

a VERY limited lens and view on the world my friend. Especially when OP said a movie would only appeal to a specific gender when the movie appeals to a mass community rather.

That's why the movie is a blockbuster right?

Exactly, 2nd highest Christmas Day opening ever, it's amazing!

Still not looking good for a clean hit lol

Second moron joins the argument

This doesn't bode well for the conversations about salary that have been surrounding this movie

Lmao don't let BOT hear this

Theaters are prohibitively expensive and this means target demos for this movie probably can't afford to go to a theater. Let's say you want to bring your family of four to see this brilliant film. That would be $100 around.

They can and they did. They just rushed to see it on Christmas. The problem is people outside of the demo doesn't care.

I disagree I think access to movie theaters in underserved areas is a real issue and is a part of why it doesn't have legs https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/african-american-communities-lack-theaters-ava-duvernay-twitter-1201980590

this is a 6 year old article

This movie is flopping because of racist cinema deserts in the hood

White people really don't care to see movies with non white people in it seems

As a non american I really don't care about black culture movies

BOT

Jat was right about Color Purple missing 100 lol. Never should have brought it up!

This thing has a $90m budget, so below 100 would be a disaster. Even if it crosses 100 it would still be bad, since it needs to reach the $200m mark to start making profit. Even if the black audience and their allies will repeat view this movie, without the general and the international audience it doesn't have much chance to break even.

“X movie flopped so why aren't we talking about it as much as Marvels???” is by far the year's most annoying box-office meme. It's even been done with actual hits like Wonka.

It's also the only time people actually still talk about the Marvels.

Capeshitters are eternally seething

(There's even an article about this phenomenon if anyone wants even more reading material: https://episodicmedium.substack.com/p/week-to-week-saying-the-marvels-bombed)

Yikes to TCP. Is it because it's not really a family film and the primary demographic went back to work? The weekend will be the real test.

This movie better have really good legs among the black community otherwise it bombs But what are the chances of black men turning up en masse?

More like The Woman King, b/c it's not breaking out from 25+ Black women, no matter how good it is...here, I was hoping that group would at least drag their families and friends, but that dragging seems limited (the 25 and under males number was a big warning sign that it was mom and grandma without the grandkids)...

Yeah, no young black man will want to see the story of a black woman rebuilding her life after giving birth to fer own brothers no matter what grandma says

2 musicals at once really did split the musical audience down the middle, b/c while Wonka is winning December, it's still not getting close to what some folks hoped for a big breakout.

Color Purple never stood a chance to overtake Wonka. Come on, it's the winter holidays, the most cheerful time of the year for most people, who would ruin their time with their family over yet another trauma porn movie? "Alright guys, we have three movie choices this year: watch an older family classic, watch a funny new movie like Wonka or... an incestuous black lesbian corrective r*pe movie So which one will it be?"

Clearly that Oprah's Favorite Things connection helped really boost the numbers for The Color Purple out the gate. Given how much Broadway adaptations have struggled lately even $80-90M total isn't bad at all for it.

I-it's not a bad performance at all! Even if it's fricking budget is $90m

oprah will tell her fans to buy it on digital/physical and it'll be okay in the long run. but yes, since it likely isn't making more than 150 million its a flop/bomb

Mother of all copes

These numbers may be what gets me to finally quit the boards. It just isn't any fun anymore.

Speak for yourself, seeing every movie collapse has been really entertaining

Really sad about what's going on with TCP, white people aren't showing up for the movie at all even with such a high Cinemascore. Reminds me of The Woman King.

Mayos ruin yet another good thing! Mayocide now

The general audience is even more fragmented than before.

Unironically, casting a black lead was less controversial two decades ago than it is now

Unless it's a superhero (BP, Spider-Verse) or supernatural horror-esque (Get Out), white people don't really show up for "Black" movies. Personally, TCP always seemed so distressing to the point where I didn't want to see it either.

White people will accept black actors in 'neutral genres' like action, superheroes and horror, but will avoid black actors in plots or stories that revolve around black lives and experiences

Unfortunate about The Color Purple's post-Christmas Day results. It's getting the "Black trauma porn" allegations from social media (younger people) and the 1985 version got heat through the years for negative portrayals of Black men in particular. So that tracks with the attendance now being skewed so strongly to older Black women, the group least likely to have an issue with TCP conceptually.

Identity battles sure are less funny now, right?

It's kinda hard for me to believe CP having more male appeal than Woman King

lets not go there

However, it's very sad how a Tony awarded musical based on a popular book can only interest one demographic (older black women). This box office performance will further prove that “black” movies can't have a wide appeal in the box office unless it's superhero or horror. Just sad all around.

Why do they keep bringing up that award like it matters? No one cares what awards musicals get. Also just because the musical got an award doesn't mean the movie is good

the hold is so bad they have to call Obama for helps

: Yes specific markets are unpredicyable and can carry a movie like how China carried Coco and SK Elemental. Moana's gonna flop if they dress her like a nun which is what they do with female superheroes, or if they digitally flatten her like they did with Halle Bailey. There's nothing wrong with sexy and whether it's objectification is in the eye of a beholder. Barbie, Taylor Swift, the Na'vi dress sexy/revealing and their movies were hits. The Marvels dressed like nuns yet even The Nun 2 made more money.

: Jesse what the heck are you talking about

: Hop off the crack bro

Girls have Moana themed bday parties to dress like her. Big reason why Frozen was such a hit is that girls loved to dress like Elsa cause that was so pretty. Nobody wants to dress like The Marvels yet Feige was bragging about discarding CM's sexier costumes in favor of...that thing. Then he multipled that thing whatever it is (potato sack?) by 3 and bombed worse than The Flash. No crack, just common sense. Look around, see how people dress and what they find pretty and put your characters in it. But fair enough, back to BO.

I know you've been here for like years but are you permanently stuck at 14?

You need to move on.

After a suspension, our resident problematic fave is back in full force with all their pent-up anger.

"fave"?

I was about to move some posts around to make a new thread, but before I do that....yeah Valonqar please do not post sexist garbage like this. I truly doubt the world needs women to dress ultra super sexy and have giant chests in order to find success in the movies. And if that is the case, we have a bigger problem in our awful patricarchal society, and it's a pity that you are encouraging this.

Please keep your hand out of your pants, or greater repercussions will come your way. You're an adult, so act like one. I hate that I have to wake up to this utter trash and that I even have to explain that this type of garbage shouldn't be on the forum, but I guess I can't expect too much from some of you. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh well.

Saying hot women attract more viewers is sexist on BOT

Major reason wonder women 1 was a smash hit is cause guys found gal Godot hot as heck in her outfit.

This goes for you too mister. We don't need this stuff on the forum. Period.

I mean people like looking at attractive actors look at Barbie who dress well...Ken and Barbie. People really liked how they looked. If Margot and gosling didn't look so attractive or dress so well i think it wouldn't have been as popular.

I feel like when people think it is weird I post on an online box office forum, this is what they're imagining.

That people watch movie for eye candy ?

There is an important difference between characters looking good and characters being hypersexualized. I'm not sure Hollywood (or some people in this forum) knows the difference.

Alright, about to move this into the Numbers/Data forum. But as a reminder once again to people, when I, or any other mod, ask you to stop something, you stop. No hesitation. No stammers. No ifs. No ands. No buts. No nothing. Please listen to the staff, or else more repercussions head your way. Thank you. :)

Come on guys, take me seriously for once : )

Color Purple can still technically make money, but it will need very good sales over lots of weekends for it. If black women love this movie to the point where they will watch it repeatedly or it starts to gather audience from other demographics it will be relatively fine (considering that movies that actually make money are an exception now). This weekend will be decisive for it. Don't hold your breath tho

Bonus:

If you have delulus still claiming that the Marvels wasn't the flop of the decade because its box office was higher than Oscar bait, you can bet your bottom dollar that Twits will have a field day about TCP.

Fun fact: The Marvel's Wikipedia article is currently protected because someone keep changing "the film became Box Office Bomb" to "the film is a Box Office Disappointment".

Lmao

I was skeptical about how the new rendition of The Color Purple would turn out. After watching it, I like it better than Spielberg's rendition. First off it's shorter, or at least feels shorter (haven't checked the runtimes). A lot of scenes in the Spielberg version run too long (the Christmas eve scene with Sofia in particular). Most of these differences chalk up to this film version to be an adaptation of the Broadway revival, rather than the Spielberg version which was directly sourced from the book (I've never read the book ). I liked all the casting choices. Celie's actress is actually the Broadway lead. Speaking of, there are musical numbers which are all carbon copied from the play with well-planned choreographs.

Some changes I thought made sense was Celie's childhood home being on top of a general store owned by the stepdad, rather than a separate piece of land. This flows well into when Celie inherits the property later and opens her shop, rather than somehow getting the funds to open up a separate shop in the Spielberg version (it's never explained). The intimate relationship between Celie and Shug is better expressed , although still way toned down from the source material. The dinner table scene is shorter yet just as powerful, and it's made crystal clear that Mister gets cursed. This was left vague in the Spielberg version. Speaking of, his character is still a sufficient butthole although I wish the scenes with his father were more fleshed out.

I still like the Spielberg version because it has its own quirks. It is just a much more tragic rendition than the Broadway revival adaptation, at the expense of character development in Celie not present in his version.

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@Redactor3

No not the terrible one where Chuck Norris slaughters various people of other races. This is an early Cold War low budget propaganda movie and not afraid to admit that's what it is.

First I've got to explain the attitude toward nuclear weapons in this movie. In some ways it's very accurate. This is before the hydrogen bomb, so the weapons are really not powerful enough to destroy an entire city. Even Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were especially vulnerable to nuclear attack, were not completely destroyed.

What it does get wrong is vastly overestimating how many bombs existed at the time. America had hundreds, the Soviets had maybe dozens. The highest levels of government really didn't know much more than that they had surprised us by developing their own bomb so fast so they might surprise us by building them faster too. You can't blame Hollywood for getting this wrong. It was only really when we started getting satellite coverage in the early 1960s that it became clear how much weaker the Russians were.

The genius of the movie is that half of it is public domain stock footage from the US government, mostly from WW2 and the Korean War. Which btw was going on when this was made. Stalin was invading random countries and just generally being an unpredictable butthole so there was a legitimate fear of him making yet another miscalculation. He'd already been part of the duo that started WW2 and appeared to have learned nothing from that.

One thing that makes using American stock footage convenient is that the Soviet bomber force was made up of the Tu-4 Bull, a shamelessly reverse engineered B-29. It didn't have the range to hit the continental US except on a one-way mission and I have a hard time believing many could pull that off without an engine fire or something. The US had much more advanced planes like the B-47 and many bases in countries close to the USSR.

Notice that they show antiaircraft guns defending American cities. Yes, this was still going on. The Nike Ajax wasn't deployed until 1954, so until then flak was considered better than nothing.

I do have to call them out for one thing that's ludicrous: The huge numbers of paratroopers invading America. You look at WW2, paratroopers were sometimes dropped behind the lines but only when ground troops were close enough to bail them out in a couple days. And the Soviets never did develop a serious airlift or sealift capability to project power at a global scale during the whole Cold War. (No, fighting a low intensity war with a minority of the population of Angola doesn't count.)

Anyway it's a fun movie and very revealing about this period when people were gradually shifting from a Ww2 mindset to a Cold War mindset. Reminds me of pre-boomers I knew who actually took foreign threats seriously because Pearl Harbor was still vividly remembered.

This is part of "The ABC's of Death", an anthology of short horror films from 26 directors, using the letters of the alphabet to make a short film about death, and I'm only uploading the short films with Asian filmmakers. I edited the commentary in the beginning and parts after "The End". This short is notable for Noboru Iguchi's butt and schoolgirl fetish. Another notable example is "Zombie Butt - Potty of the Dead".

!nooticers

Very obvious propaganda but good propaganda. Ripped off from top gun to just the right level. Romance subplot is very contained. Compared to red cliff or the Korean war movie I'd say more professional.

Sequels/spin-offs that were revealed to be in the works in 2023:

• Heat 2
• Shrek 5
• Creed 4
• Fall 2 & 3
• Suits L.A
• Orphan 3
• Tron: Ares
• Zootopia 2
• Blair Witch
• It Follows 2
• Toy Story 5
• Bad Boys 4
• Dodgeball 2
• Extraction 3
• Frozen 3 & 4
• Talk… pic.twitter.com/HlhV5f0neK

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) December 28, 2023

• Heat 2

• Shrek 5

• Creed 4

• Fall 2 & 3

• Suits L.A

• Orphan 3

• Tron: Ares

• Zootopia 2

• Blair Witch

• It Follows 2

• Toy Story 5

• Bad Boys 4

• Dodgeball 2

• Extraction 3

• Frozen 3 & 4

• Talk To Me 2

• Paw Patrol 3

• Fast X Part 2

• Dexter prequel

• Freaky Friday 2

• Hocus Pocus 3

• Enola Holmes 3

• The Blackening 2

• The Boys: Mexico

• Plane sequel, Ship

• Now You See Me 3

• Detective Pikachu 2

• Wednesday spin-off

• The Pope's Exorcist 2

• Fast & Furious: Hobbs

• Thread: A Insidious Tale

• Big Bang Theory spin-off

• The Conjuring TV spin-off

• 2 Peaky Blinders spin-offs

• King of the Hill sequel series

• New Lord of the Rings movies

• Animated Stranger Things spin-off

• I Know What You Did Last Summer sequel

!historychads the day the digital wall between us and the sino are torn down and the shitposting is merged would be a day etched in history

Edit: updated link

https://b23.tv/HnmAM8w

Local b-word Karen hates just about everybody, including baristas, cashiers, the black family across the street (stand-in for the Cratchits, with 6-year-old Nia having leukemia) and her gay brother (stand-in for Scrooge's nephew Fred). On Christmas Eve, she's visited by several ghosts, including her dead fat whore business partner Jackie Morley, the Ghost of Christmas Past (a gay black caricature ), the Ghost of Christmas Present (a fat white woman ), and the Ghost of Christmas Future (I think he's supposed to look sort of emo? ). After realizing that just about everybody hates her, Karen turns over a new leaf.

A Christmas Karen speaks the cinematic language of a DVD designed to babysit 6 year olds, but all the jokes are about s*x, gays, or racism. My guess is this was a cash grab based on a few unfunny adults' idea of what 13-year-old TikTok zombies would think was a funny movie. Unfortunately, those kids are not going to find their movies in the bargain bin at Best Buy, or on Tubi, the only two places A Christmas Karen could possibly be found.

Miscellanea:

• She doesn't like black people because when she worked at a bar there was a black waitress who was better at twerking than her

• She doesn't like gay people because her little brother would steal her underwear as a teenager but he somehow became gay instead of trans

• Despite having a budget of $39.50 for sets and costumes they had the budget for multiple terrible CGI effects

• The Christmas Past backstory depends heavily on parental neglect, to the point that the filmmakers "neglected" to cast actors for her parents. Pivotal childhood moments happen completely offscreen and the narrative is an utter mess

• Each ghost's traversal follows a set of different arbitrary "rules" that only exist to manufacture """slapstick""" """comedy""" out of her having to constantly be touching different parts of them

• Occasionally, background characters are watching an old black and white Christmas Carol adaptation. I slowly realized this isn't actually a real movie, it was made just for this, which is kinda cute

• The last joke in the movie involves anime tits and I laughed at it

• Despite lecturing the audience about racism and homophobia, the movie heavily mines black/gay stereotypes for comedy, including the cinematic buck breaking that is the entire Christmas Past character.

• The set design is somehow bad enough that they couldn't even make the not-Cratchits look poor.

I was going to give this 1/10, but I found myself laughing a few times during the end sequence where she's reformed and starts doing the right thing, while remaining extremely clueless and racist. The switch from cringey comedy to cringe comedy is a significant improvement. And while Peepeeens and previous Christmas Carol adaptations deserve most of the credit for this, it's always fun to watch a giddy Scrooge character making a fool of themselves on Christmas morning. Karen may be cartoonishly bitchy, but the movie treats her as redeemable without requiring her to learn the language of . This means, for all its faults and unfunniness, the movie has a scrap of empathy that the kinds of people posting "Karen" videos will never have.

Score: 2/10

Don't actually watch it, just imagine the whole thing based on reading this post and you'll probably be right.

wft I didn't know this wasn't a standalone movie, it was originally going to be two movies and now it's been stretched out to three. Thankfully the "cliffhangers" at the end are pointless, obviously everyone who "died" is going to miraculously survive.

Speaking of death, nobody in this fricking series can die. Not even the guy who's dead in real life is dead in the Fast and Furious universe, he could legitimately come back in future movies.

I knew what to expect going into this movie and I got it: escalating antics with cars that defy gravity and all common sense. Pinballing a bomb into the Tiber River to save the Vatican? Check. Screaming down the side of a dam like a Hot Wheels car? Check. A little kid killing like 5-6 people with a car mounted rocket launcher? Check. If you didn't like the previously movies you won't like this one.

Taking into account that it's essentially only half a movie it comes in at a very bloated 2 hours 20 minutes. So many meaningless sideplots with little to no payoff, just filling time or saying, "Hey remember this person!?! They're back in a meaningless cameo!" Also Pete Davidson for some reason.

Jason Momoa fricking carried this movie holy shit. I'm pretty sure they didn't give him any notes or direction, they just told him, "Do whatever you want." He went with weird, flamboyant supervillain and it's the perfect counter to Vin Diesel's grumpy seriousness. He makes sure you don't take the movie seriously. He also had some killer one liners.

Overall eh I dunno maybe 6/10. Kinda forgettable in the F&F franchise but there have been so many I barely even remember most of them.

New sequels coming in 2024:

• Joker 2
• Dune 2
• Smile 2
• Sonic 3
• Venom 3
• Terrifier 3
• Gladiator 2
• Bad Boys 4
• Deadpool 3
• Inside Out 2
• Beetlejuice 2
• Paddington 3
• Ghostbusters 4
• Despicable Me 4
• Kung Fu Panda 4
• Beverly Hills Cop 4 pic.twitter.com/m4XwLKF109

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) December 26, 2023

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'Parasite' actor Lee Sun-kyun found dead amid investigation over drug allegations

Actor Lee Sun-kyun of the Oscar-winning "Parasite" was found dead in an apparent suicide Wednesday while facing an investigation over suspected drug use.

A man in his 40s was found unconscious in a car at a park in central Seoul at 10:30 a.m., and the police later identified him as Lee. In the passenger seat was a charcoal briquette.

The police earlier received a report that Lee left home after writing a memo akin to a suicide note and that his car was gone.

"As he was pronounced dead, he wasn't taken to hospital," a fire official said.

Lee has gone through three rounds of police questioning on suspicions of using marijuana and other illegal drugs at the home of a hostess working at a high-end bar in Seoul's Gangnam district on multiple occasions since early this year, including last Saturday.

The actor claimed he was tricked by the hostess into taking the drugs and that he did not know what he was taking.

Lee tested negative in both the brief reagent test conducted during police investigations and the lab-based drug test by the National Forensic Service last month.

The previous day, Lee submitted a polygraph test request to the Incheon Metropolitan Police ㅣAgency charged with the investigation, claiming his innocence.

Lee rose to global fame after "Parasite," in which he played a main role, won Academy Awards in 2020. (Yonhap)

He's one who played the rich dad in the movie.

It's funny

Just saw it yesterday and it was as great as ever. Paul Varney was such a talent! And the first 15 minutes had better car stunta than the new dogshit Ferrari movie.