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@Fabrico's recommended books for political moderates.

There are a good deal many nonfiction books talking about modern politics, most of them suck and have nothing of importance to say. This list composes of books that at the very least have some food for thought. I have read most of these, though not all fully. Most of these books have audiobook versions, which are useful for those of you who prefer that format. Many libraries have access to these books in both formats. !grillers you should ideally read/have read a few of these, !burgers you should do the same, as your civic duty. Also, a shoutout to @pizzashill for recommending some of these years ago on the subreddit.

Suspicious Minds by Rob Brotherton

 A great book that explains the mindset for believing the unbelievable, a good book for anyone who interacts with conspiracy theorists with any regularity.

Vodka Politics by Mark Lawrence Schrad

 This a good book that provides key insight into not only the Russian government, but the people who passively support the current regime. A good showcase on how the best way to deal with Russia geopolitically is to first understand the state, and it's history of oppression and control.

The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli

 Many people have a misunderstanding of The Prince, believing it to be a personal manifesto of Machiavelli's ideas. This is false, the book is mostly an observation of the states he saw around him, and what made some function and others falter. Machiavelli is not supporting these ideas from a moral standpoint, but a pragmatic one.

The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America by Coleman Hughes

When I heard some Zoomer with a YouTube channel wrote a book, I rolled my eyes. However this is actually an impressive breakdown on why modern IdPol is cancer to society and how two wrongs don't make a right. It helps that he is good at narrating his own audiobook, highly recommend the audio version over the regular book. Probably my favorite book of the year, fiction included.

Bad Therapy: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up by Abigail Shrier

 If you have kids (or plan to), I consider this book essential. It provides some key tips for parenting (basically do the opposite of everything Millennial parents do). It's also useful for understanding why Zoomers and gen A are so dysfunctional, the parents did everything wrong. As Zoomers start to enter the political arena, understanding how they function (or rather mostly don't) is key.

Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl

 A guy he survived the holocaust explains how he was able to keep living after what happened to him. Is he the best writer? No. However he has a perspective that the vast majority of westerners don't, an event in life that involved true suffering.

China's Great Wall Of Debt: Shadow Banks, Ghost Cities, Massive Loans, and the End of the Chinese Miracle by Dinny McMahon

 China is screwed, but often it can be hard to understand why when for all appearances they appear to be a functioning almost developed country. People may see all the stats that spell doom and gloom, but without examples it can be hard to internalize. This book is masterful at providing those examples and tying them in to various stats about China's economy and population. The audiobook is also high quality, and 100% free if you have an Audible membership (doesn't cost a credit).

The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt

 If you only read one book here, make it this one. This book perfectly explains the mind of the wingcuck, and explains what one can do to avoid becoming one. It also provides some really uncomfortable ideas that challenged my beliefs and actually made me more moderate.

The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt

 This book is not as well written as The Righteous Mind, however it does have some additional ideas that are worth pondering. Worth a read, but not as essential of a read as The Righteous Mind.

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life by Jordan B. Peterson

 Jordan B Peterson is no genius, but his ideas have obviously resonated with a lot of people. This book, above all his other books really helps shed light on why. This is probably his most personal book, and shows what kind of person naturally gravitates towards this type of thinking. It helps that it also has more meaningful advice than his first self-help book, less empty platitudes.

Guns, Germs and Steel: The Fate of Human Societies by Jared Diamond

 A lot of modern historians dismiss this book as pseudohistory, I'd argue that whether that's true or not doesn't matter. This book is more useful to explain the mindset of historians and politicians from the decade this book was published. The fact remains that many believe this book to be true regardless of it's actually factuality, and as such it is worth knowing what started this mindset and what the mindset actually is. I will personally add that this book has more truth to it than many modern historians are willing to admit. Most people who dispute this book attack the data, as the conclusion is hard to challenge.

The Case Against Education: Why the Education System Is a Waste of Time and Money by Bryan Caplan

 Public school is trash in the USA, this book articulates why in a very matter of fact way. This book doesn't offer much substantial solutions imo. However understanding *why* our education system is broken is a key step to working on creating solutions.

The Bible (LSB)

 The Bible is the most important book ever written, this is undeniable. This book has had such an insane amount of influence not only on religion, science, and culture, but also the fabric of what makes The West a concept to begin with. Many modern readers have trouble getting through the KJV Bible, understandable. Thus I recommend the LSB version, is it as good from a religious or historical aspect? No. However if you have found yourself unable to really get through The Bible due to it's complex prose, the LSB version is a solid option for understanding The Bible. Unfortunately it doesn't have any non-AI complete audio readings, so no audiobook for those who want it.

You may wonder why other religious texts aren't included, and that's because The Bible has value from a culture and historical angle for any Westerner. Other religious texts are less valuable from that angle, and don't have the same amount of influence over the core Western identity as compared to The Bible.

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The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt

I read this, it had some good ideas but it was really funny reading it in current year since the authors had no clue just how far their fellow shitlibs would go

!chuds mandatory time capsule reading

12 rules :marseypeterson:

Tbqh I think this guy is a terrible author

Guns Germs Steel

I think this soy manifesto was debunked by Carnage and Culture bb

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GGS is great at explaining things until you hit international trade around the 1500s. All those barriers to development really don't mean shit after that, but amazingly some groups of people still to this day can't figure it out.

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Is this why Aruba (a desert island with no resources) has a higher standard of living than Venezuela next door?

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Is this why Aruba (a desert island with no resources) has a higher standard of living than Venezuela next door?

Inclusive institutions according to !neolibs Holy Book "Why Nations Fail".

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>Why Nations Fail

Because they chose socialism.

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Then they must have just coincidentally developed inclusive institutions all over the Caribbean. They've been remarkable stable politically compared to the rest of the world. The exceptions:

  • Cuba - The biggest island.

  • Haiti - Half of a big island.

  • Grenada - The only outlier I can think of.

The small islands have done way better than the big islands and mainland countries in the region. Could it be because of... geography? :marseythinkorino:

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Geography can't explain why the worst economy in the Americas shares an island with the fastest-growing economy in the Americas

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I don't know what the book is about but Aruba is rich the same way many other nothingburger caribbean nations are rich: Money laundering and tourism

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....so trade?

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If we're still talking about OverSeether's critique of the book, then yes, better transportation obviously opened up these islands for tourism, specifically air travel becoming cheap and safe.

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I would still explain this through geography (lol of course I would, I'm so quirky that way :marseygiggle:). Venezuela is a big country with millions of people so it's going to end up with big social problems. In Venezuela there's places you can hide. On Aruba you can't be a fugitive more than 5 minutes, so you can't have a civil war. Everyone has to learn to get along with each other.

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What r ur thoughts on it bb

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Pretty much what I said. His point about geography as a barrier to trade is a good one. It's not entirely new because economists have their "gravity models" where being next to large trading countries has positive spillover effects on nearby countries. The starting resources bit is mixed. Horses are easier to domesticate than zebras, and llamas are of limited usefulness. True, but maybe different groups of people start with different average IQs. I'm just sayin'.

I can go on. The Incans had their natural barrier problem with llamas and mountains which did stifle advancement, but so did having an neurodivergentsllly centrally planned political economy which forced people to stock warehouses full of clothes that nobody used. His book looks hard at nature but negelects political economic barriers to development. It's a good and long list of explanatory variables for economic development though.

!historychads, my brief thoughts on Guns, Germs, and Steel. Please chime in. :marseyfluffy:

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People who actually know about biology have told me that part is broadly true. And you can trust them because I said so.

My quibble with him is about the technology he uses as examples. Guns were better than bows (don't even start that conversation with me :marseymad:) but not that much, steel weapons were way better in certain situations but no benefit in others (like if you get shot in the back by a guy you never saw). The more important factors... oh God this is a good idea for a whole book... but to avoid motteposting I'll try to stick to the point. Now keep in mind it's been 25 years since I read it, so maybe he did mention these things and I forgot it.

The real triumph in conquering the Incas wasn't fighting them. It was getting there in the first place. The ships the Spanish were using were like the airliners of today, extremely complex machines built up from millennia of experience with crews to match them. I don't know much about sailing but I read a very persuasive boomer times book that said it needed the combination of technology from the Mediterranean and the North Sea to build a trans-Atlantic ship. They had to navigate, which they did based on a lot of abstract science like astronomy and math. They needed all kinds of material: the right kind of wood, several different metals, textiles for the sails, &ct. For each of these we could delve into how many centuries of experience were required to develop the technology. They needed stuff you would never think of, like high-tech barrels that could keep water from going foul after weeks of travel.

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López de Legazpi-Urdaneta Monument in Manila. Filipinos who aren't bitter Fil-Am incels tend to have a more nuanced understanding of their interactions with other countries in history.

If you were going to pick one thing that made Europe superior to the rest of the worlds, it was ships. By the 1520s Magellan could go around the world. In 1565 Legazpi began to colonize the Philippines. I tried to measure the distance on Google Earth but I couldn't because it's literally on the opposite side of the planet. Three years later the Portugese showed up already and besieged the colony because they could do it too. You can talk all you want about other cultures' big cities and big buildings and art and whatever, but none of them were remotely able to travel to the other side of the planet and be in shape to fight. (Don't even make me start about Zhenge He.)

So I submit that the sailing ship is the tool that actually made Europe powerful. You could easily write an entire book like GGS just about ships.

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I haven't read the book but something I think you're overlooking, armor.

A steel sword is better than a bronze sword, or an obsidian sword, but leather armor fails completely compared to metal armor. Advanced armor even managed to make advanced metal swords obsolete as weapons. You give someone good armor, advanced weapons (even if the weapons aren't that much better) and they are basically invulnerable to the more primitive weapons and cultures.

Armor is such a problem to simple weapons that Fiore developed a bunch of jank half swording plays just in an effort to make it kinda work.

Obviously ships, gunpowder played a huge role but don't sleep on protection.

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The elaborate plate armor and stuff like that emerged around the 1300s as a response to advanced weapons designed to penetrate armor. Against a low-tech enemy do you really need anything more than leather? I feel people don't appreciate it enough. Back in my 400s BC times that I know about :marseyboomer: everyone used leather for everything and they did fine.

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I preferred why nations :marseypeacekeeper: fail for better :marseysaulgoodman: economic analysis :marseynatesilverfox:

!bookworms

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Why Nations Fail has a right idea but it oversimplifies too much as well. The authors cite "Guns, Germs and Steel" in their prologue saying their book is kind of a rebuttal but then fall into the same vices as the former glossing over things like culture (yes, institutional development is linked too cultural norms, yet the authors act as if institutions exist on a vacuum and just spring out of nowhere in particular). Their takes on the Roman Empire were ridiculous, they attributed the fall of the western empire too events 500 years previous lol. Their chapters on Mexico and Argentina were perfect though (Robinson specialty is LATAM economics so he shined on those themes).

!neolibs

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I'd agree :marseythumbsup: but I don't think :marseynoooticer: a single :marseywall: book gets everything right :marseysoren: besides the communist :marseymarx: manifesto :marseychudnotes:

!commies

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:#marseyakshually: The Communist Manifesto is not a book but a pamphlet. :#marseyrevolution:

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Why did you chud my boy!?!?

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@C333, ..... :marseygiveup:

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Because I thought :marseymindblown: it was funny

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Pictured: Leopold de Rothschild and his zebra drawn carriage in London retroactively refuting Jared Diamond

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White extinction is long overdue

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Okay, I'm convinced. Time to burn Diamond at the stake. :marseyburn:

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:#marseyspitmoji:

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Guns, Germs and Steel suffers from "Grand Theory" syndrome. It oversimplifies attributing almost everything to geographical factors. I really recommend "1491" by Charles Mann as reading for those interested in pre-columbian America and the follow-up book "1493" covers the columbian exchange. The books go deep into archeology, contemporary accounts, ecology and some paleoclimatology.

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Horses are easier to domesticate than zebras,

I doubt that this was actually true. IMO the real answer is that horses and zebras both started with the ducking reflex, but it was bred out of horses (or the horses that ended up domesticated were the ones that lacked the reflex and got caught) which then escaped and intermingled with wild stock over the millennia until the entire species ended up having significant domestic horse admixture and lost the reflex as a result, especially since large cats were mostly eradicated from the parts of Eurasia that horses inhabited and there was little evolutionary pressure to breed the ducking reflex back into horses.

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Just to clarify this for people who haven't read it, it's not relevant after the 1500s because that's the whole point of the book, not because he's a tard. How different countries ended up the way they were in the 1500s. He uses the fall of the Incas in the 1530s as the conclusion of the story he's telling.

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No, sweaty, he extrapolated beyond that.

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Oh. I wish he wouldn't have done that because that's... the part that he actually knew some stuff about.

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Huh I just read the synopsis. He argued that free societies make the best militaries but the WW1 Wehrmacht was probably the best land army that ever came about, and they were a proto-military dictatorship.

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Carnage and Culture or GGS?

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CnC

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>WW1

>Wehrmacht

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