Rdrama bookclub. "Petersburg" Discussion Thread #3 :marseyflagrussia: :marseyww1russian1: Chapter 3

!bookworms to discuss chapter 3 of Andrei Bely's "Petersburg".

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I loled at this passages. Despite being a commie himself Bely could take a joke and make fun of his own movement. Despite the rather complex language this book is quite satirical.

Aleksandr Ivanovich is sort of a charming neurodivergent for a terrorist. Nikolai Apollonovich is a whiny cute twink and his dad is right about him.

Sofia Petrovna needs better friends and would seriously benefit of owning a dildo, but unfortunately she's a weeb in 1900s Russia.

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I have two things I'd like to discuss.

1. What is the importance of cuckoldry in this book? Both father and son are kind of cucks. Why choose this to parallel them?

2. The books mentioned in the text tend to either be related to economic philosophy / logic, or related to mysticism / religion. In part 2, Ivanovich seems to think himself superior to Nikolai because he reads religious texts instead of theory, though he comes off as a schizo in that conversation. In part 3, Sofia Petrovna claims she has equal respect for the kooky Baroness R.R. and the giga commie Varvara. What do you think Bely is trying to imply by contrasting these things?

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Don't forget the Styopka rambling to Aleksandr Ivanovich!

Both father and son are equals to the point Nikolai becomes a commie out of spite, looks like is just a way to differ from his father as they have the same manners, tics, and even read the same books. They love/hate each other is the impression I'm getting.

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Yes, they even have the same weird geometry autism. At first I thought that their personal relationship may be mirroring the growing divide between the people and the government of Petersburg, but I find Nikolai so much more distasteful that I'm not sure I like that interpretation anymore. Sure, Apollon is a chicken headed, paranoid cuck who perfumes his bald head and hates the common people, but there's no way even the average commie is :marseycringe: enough to be represented by Nikolai.

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I read that the book was written by a guy whose family was killed by Nihilist terrorists. So yeah, I think he might be a little bit biased about them being cringey.

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