To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Lord of the Rings

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>He watched PhilosophyTube unironically

I'm invested in Lain lore now, tell me more. Was that during your commie phase you alluded to at some point?

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Yes, I was big on watching commie video essays (BreadTube) back in the mid 10s when I was in HS and directly lead to me becoming a commie.

I was a big /r/chapotraphouse poster back in the day.

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That's really interesting. I'm not a very social person hence my sample size is small, but I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views like it seems you did. I also live in a fairly small country, but the closest I came to was the one girl who I talked a lot to in highschool who was the grand-daughter of the owner of one of the very few big businesses we have here becoming a full-on commie during her undergraduate studies abroad in Britain, in a very prestigious university no less. It's hard to understand but the cultural perception of communism and Russian imperialism is very different here as well, us being a former constituent of USSR, so her being an ethnic majority who adapted that view surprised me a lot.

I probably said more than I should have, I just find it very interesting when these things happen. As much of a hypocrite as I am in my actions, I don't think I've ever changed my view on things ideologically. Though I don't know how much of a virtue that really is.

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but I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views like it seems you did

I did in real life, my aunt was a communist during college, she participated in anti-government protests, even years after she graduated I remember seeing Marx's Capital and the Che Guevara diaries on her bookshelf. 20 years+ of working as a doctor in public healthcare convinced her that it would be better if it all got privatized lol. Now she's even sympathetic to rightoid politicians.

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I don't really know how old you are, but wasn't it dangerous to espouse such views for quite a time in Chile?

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I'm not Chilean, I'm a :marseybrasileiro: (my flag was because of my Pinochet effortpost series that I'm totally going to finish any day now), but much like Chile my country democratized in the 1980s and my aunt became politically active in the 90s.

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Oh shit. My whole life is turned upside down.

I remember you speaking of Sao Paolo (I probably mistyped that), but I thought you just emigrated at some point

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Between São Paulo and Santiago I would pick Santiago and is an easy choice.

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From what little I know about South America (nothing), I think Chile is the most well-off country, behind Argentina, so I can't say I'm surprised.

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Chile should go East and get South America's other coastline too

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If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.

Can you DM me where you live? I love having internet friends from all over the world. It's really cool to get so many different perspectives.

I've kind of done a 360 in a way, I'm back to my libertarian ethics that I held earlier in HS I'd say. Possibly more centrist, but certainly pro-capitalism.

Honestly hanging out with actual commies is enough to deradicalize. I'm pretty active in my church now (even though I was a pretty hardened atheist at 13) and it's night and day what you can do with a couple normal Jesus followers vs. a crew of burn out college students.

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Can you DM me where you live?

He is Lithuanian. :hehecat:

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Wasn't he a Latvian? Like Mikhail Tal @Geralt_of_Uganda

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I'm Mongolian

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I'm from Latvia, I never really hid that so I have no problem typing it out here. I also am college-educated, I did my degree in England, so I sort-of understand the people you speak of. But at the same time I think it's a much bigger virtue to come to these conclusions regarding politics, philosophy, God and whatever else by yourself, independently, rather than just following whatever you were taught or raised as.

I believe our Archbishop was an atheist for some time in his life, and I really admire him turning around after he read catholic philosophy. It's hard to win, but it is even harder to lose with dignity and accept defeat by admitting you were wrong, which is probably a very dramaphobic statement. I don't think I've mastered that part yet.

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Oh wow, I do not know much about Latvia. Are you guys unsettled by the Ukrainian war?

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I too travelled from rightoid lolbert as a teen, to soy lib, back to conservative over time (though I'm mostly apolitical these days)

Philosophytube's r-sluration helped me deprogram me from the left, for which I'm thankful :marseyretardchad:

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I too travelled from rightoid lolbert as a teen, to soy lib, back to conservative over time (though I'm mostly apolitical these days)

:#marseyme:

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I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views

A significant number of people do, because of second opinion bias. They never become more moderate, they just switch to an equally extreme other side of the horseshoe. They aren't smart enough to question whether the issues in their ideology were due to the wingcuckery or the extremism so they get it wrong.

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I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views

Haven't met them irl, but "I fell down the alt right rabbit hole" posts were ten a penny on subs like chapotraphouse.

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I'm not a very social person hence my sample size is small, but I've never met a person who did a complete 180 on their views like it seems you did.

Honestly lain's story is common to zoomers. They get all lefty in high school and college because it synergizes with adolescent edginess and there's a wide variety of channels and influencers who know how to appeal to them.

But only trust fund kids really keep that mentality past, I dunno, 28 or so. If they end up with a wagie job with too many shit coworkers and hobo encounters.

If they actually see a union in action.

If they join the military or otherwise travel outside of a tourist resort and see how poor the rest of the world is.

If they go into trades.

Or if they just start making decent money in general.

Their lefty views usually don't survive. It's all surface level anyway :marseyshrug:

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Low key me yeah.

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