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German 
tells Customs and Border Patrol 
that she intends to break the law 
when entering the country, 
freakout that you cant punish people for conspiring/attempting crime 
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i really hate this decision. they should've barred her from entry and told her she's mexico's problem instead of wasting money to keep her locked up.
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In the US conspiring to committ a crime is in itself a crime. Punishing her will deter others from attempting the same sort of nefarious activity. I think ots pretty stupid that I cant flick off the police and call them nazis in Germany, butt if I went there I wouldnt be surprised if they arrwsted me for doing that bc its a crime there. Play stupid games, win stupid prices, FAFO, respect people's culture, check your white privilege etc.
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If criminals need more than the huge inconvenience of being stranded in Mexico and being flagged in the system as someone who can't enter the country, then just spend $2 on a rifle round and fricking shoot them. This is an enormous waste of money that I was forced to give the government. Bullshit like this is one of the reasons I won't be able to draw Social Security when I retire.
We're firing glowies for nickel and dime savings while continuing to set money on fire with things like this.
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oh you're one of those dummies lmao
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this is your brain on MMT
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Doesn't even have anything to do with social security which is funded by payroll taxes lmao. I'm not talking about printing more money.
They could (a) increase the tax rate, (b) push back retirement age, (c) bump up or eliminate the wage base (tax cap). Or they could do none of that and simply slash benefits around 20%.
But thinking the whole program will collapse is just silly
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I dont disagree, butt sadly were a civilized nation that has to follow the geneva comventions or whatever. Also by that logic we shouldnt kill the people on death row bc thats far more expensive than giving people life in prison instead, or we should just stop arresting drug dealers/users simply bc its to expensive and "theyre only hurting themselves". Also arefuably the expense of processing/criminally punsihing this ome person will aeguably reduce the number of people who will offend long term which will.reduce the number of offenders thus lowering the cost.(and thats not even getting into the lost revenue from the negative effects of just petting these people vilate rhe terms of their visa). If something is illegal there has to be consequences for doing that illegal thing otherwise its not really illegal. At this point your argument shpuld just be to let her come in and work bc thats what she would have done had she simply lied/wasnt asked the right question. Whats next? Border patrol turning the fentyl importers back bc they were caught befpre coming into rhe country? Theyll just keep trying if theres no consequences.
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The Geneva Conventions don't prevent us from executing criminals and neither does any civil treaty. Nation-states can make laws providing for execution of criminals in any way they see fit. No one has stopped Singapore.
No, by that logic, we should just hurry up and shoot them instead of paying to keep them around for 10-20 years before spending thousands of dollars on a Big Pharma cocktail to achieve the same result as the rifle round
We could just as easily give dealers a bullet. Consumption is a lesser crime and we should just spank them really hard instead of spending a ridiculous amount of money keeping them as a ward of the state. Again, like Singapore.
As usual, you're pretending that I said the exact opposite of what I said just to argue. My point stands. Taking her in and locking her up was a fricking r-slurred thing to do and anyone who supports it is r-slurred, too. She was in Mexico, she's Mexico's problem. Your line of thinking is exactly how we got 892348972389457 "asylum seekers" released into the US after the Border Patrol caught them crossing illegally. If you're cool with this, you should have voted for Biden. He did the right thing for the border, apparently.
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i know, thats why I said "or whatever". Iirc its actually the constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishment on people for disproportionately petty crimes. Thats also considered an inalienable right which is why it applies even to non citizens.
we cant just do that tho, bc of the constitution/how the system is designed so...
that darn constitution and people having inalienable rights tho, darn
nah, thats obviously you
no
no, youre just wrong. And the faft that you think in such Black and white terms/think everyone who diaagrees with ypu is dumb/beneath you indicates to me that it is you who is the rslur...rslur
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