This makes zero sense. He'd be more untrustworthy if he took the pic down, because that would make him someone who caves easily to threats from lunatics.
Oh no, Aevann lied to someone threatening the site with terrorist tactics
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Lololololol 9mo ago#5928825
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It's easy to keep your promises to people you like. The true test of integrity is whether you can keep your promises to people you hate.
For example, the reason Hamas will never have a permanent peace treaty with Israel (and why all Hamas supporters should be exterminated like the filth they are) is because they think that just because they hate Israel, it means they don't have to honor their commitments and peace deals with Israel. That makes them untrustworthy and now they're eating the consequences of that.
The question here shouldn't be "Is @transb-word a good person?" because everybody thinks that they're a good person and the other side is bad. It should only be "Did Transb-word live up to her end of the deal or not?" If you don't think that you need to uphold deals with people you hate then you're completely untrustworthy and I would never do business with somebody like that because they could always find a pretext to slander me as a "bad person" in order to try to weasel out of our business deal, like Kesha did to Dr Luke.
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sirpingsalot 9mo ago#5929023
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I didn't read the receipts so I have no idea what was or wasn't promised but I just want to go on record saying that in the past I've advocated for the deletion of the moobs pic behind the scenes without anything being offered in return because I just think it's the right thing to do ✨
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IRREDEEMABLE-KRAMPUS 9mo ago#5929101
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Well I disagree with that also. She posted the pic, so that's on her. Don't post stuff online if you don't mean it. Personally I stand behind everything I've ever posted to this website and I wouldn't ever request deletion.
But while I may not believe in any of your so-called "moral values," I do believe strongly that any agreements made without coercion should be upheld. It's one of my most redeeming qualities TBH
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sirpingsalot 9mo ago#5929110
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Just because something can be done doesn't mean that it should be done or that it's right to do so, though.
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IRREDEEMABLE-KRAMPUS 9mo ago#5929239
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Right or wrong is all subjective, but keeping promises and obeying the law is objective.
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Subjectively speaking, I should not refuse to take a shower for three weeks and then go see a movie in a crowded theater. There are no laws against it, but it's a pointless, peepeeheaded thing to do that serves no actual purpose and simply diminishes the quality of life of other people. I am capable of doing it, the law allows me to do it, but I should not do it. While the “should not” is technically subjective, any coherent system of morality also necessitates that I don't.
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IRREDEEMABLE-KRAMPUS 9mo ago#5930124
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Do not engage this dude. He is morally ok with raping children and kept pumping that bird girl thru tears and sobs. He has the moral fortitude of a shellfish
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KEPT PUMPING THAT BIRD GIRL THRU TEARS AND SOBS.
That's a lie, I actually went very easy on Ted because it was our first time hooking up with each other. I stopped every single time she used the safeword, even though it would have been much more fun not to
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Wrong: you only say that because you subconsciously perceive the people in the movie theater as being friends rather than hostiles
@Bookers is inclined too agree with you that 'its the right thing too do'
But - youd also have too heavily moderate and probably temp ban everypony who posts it though and @Bookers think thats where it gets trickier than just "removing it from the site" or whatever
Like you'd have too start handing out bans too people who post it. And @Bookers think that's sort of where the line is.
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King R-slur of Frick Mountain
Please don't say stuff like this; I don't want to take credit for mountain fricking when I haven't managed to earn that achievement yet. Someday...
As a fricking user I give much more of a fricking frick about the fricking admin being able to find out if there's an exploit putting me at risk. This isn't geopolitics, there's a fricking way to go about these things. As an admin you look much much worse if you cave to someone's demands immediately after they broadcast to a fricking public groomercord server that they have an exploit for sale
Exactly. There's a specific code of ethics so that administrators AREN'T put in these situations and tbs male brained terrorist narcissism wrecked them all for a feeble amount of attention
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Yeah, but Transb-word initially tried to fix the exploits (admittedly at a cost, but it was a fair and reasonable one). If Aevann had simply paid her what they agreed upon then she could have become a useful asset to repair exploits rather than causing them. That agreement would have made all of us safer.
Instead Aevann pissed her off so yeah, she went rogue. I would have done the same thing in her place. If I'm a weapons dealer and I offer to sell a suitcase nuke to the CIA, then they better fricking pay me what they agreed to for it or the next suitcase nuke I find goes straight to Al-Qaeda, you know what I mean? This is the same principle. If we want people like Transb-word to behave in a prosocial way that benefits us then we need to make it worth their while.
To be clear, I give zero shits about Transb-word as a person, but it's hard to find an exploit that Aevann missed, and I think that's worth paying a bug bounty for.
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ImAtMyFuckinLimit 9mo ago#5929226
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With the favor that she was promised: taking down the boob pic. Have you not been following this drama from the start?
Not sure where you are getting this hate business except by conflating what happened with your imagined morality play.
Transb-word threatened him first in the midst of negotiations. At this point all bets are off since it has eliminated any good will in the negotiation whatsoever. Someone threatens to burn down my house unless I give them back the photo of the hairy balls they left in my window. At this point I'm perfectly in my rights to lie to them and find out where they left the can of gasoline, and in fact retaliate pretty fricking hard to keep my surrounding neighbors safe. Aevann was fairly restrained in justified responses, if anything.
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Lololololol 9mo ago#5929378
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Threats are an acceptable form of negotiation though. All negotiations effectively boil down to the intersection of "What can I do for you?" and "What can I do to you?"
Like if I was an arms dealer who offered to sell a nuke or a bioweapon to the CIA it doesn't make me a terrorist to explain to them that if they don't come to an agreement with me, there are plenty of other interested buyers out there who might use it in a way that they don't like. The fact that this even needs to be explained to them is a problem with them, not me
The key here is that “there are plenty of other interested buyers out there who might use it in a way that they don't like” against the other party.
Once you threaten the participant you're resorting to underhanded techniques, in which case lying is a perfectly acceptable countermeasure. It's only midwits who cry foul because instinctually they realize their lack of cleverness will put them at a disadvantage.
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Lololololol 9mo ago#5929698
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It's okay, bb. It's only the internet.
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The true test of integrity is whether you can keep your promises to people you hate.
I dunno, SirScrote. I'm fine with lying to people I hate if my failure to upkeep my promise results in something very bad for them. But I don't hate anyone, so I've no examples.
I view "price" as a better test of integrity for keeping promises. For example, the party making the promise has to pay some price: monetarily, such as holding money in escrow, contingent on some contract), or non-monetarily which would be something hard for someone to do, such a person with a long history of lying fulfills a promise. That would mean a lot more than someone who regularly keeps their promise. Obviously, the latter person would always be better to 'exchange' with.
B wanted to weasel her way in and become a mod to ban people she didn't like in exchange for whitehat notices. It's more about the bad intentions and wanting to sell rDrama Cyber Secrets , rather than not keeping a promise (whatever that was, not sure).
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If something isn't great at a systemic level, then it's also bad at the individual level, and vice versa
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This makes zero sense. He'd be more untrustworthy if he took the pic down, because that would make him someone who caves easily to threats from lunatics.
Oh no, Aevann lied to someone threatening the site with terrorist tactics
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It's easy to keep your promises to people you like. The true test of integrity is whether you can keep your promises to people you hate.
For example, the reason Hamas will never have a permanent peace treaty with Israel (and why all Hamas supporters should be exterminated like the filth they are) is because they think that just because they hate Israel, it means they don't have to honor their commitments and peace deals with Israel. That makes them untrustworthy and now they're eating the consequences of that.
The question here shouldn't be "Is @transb-word a good person?" because everybody thinks that they're a good person and the other side is bad. It should only be "Did Transb-word live up to her end of the deal or not?" If you don't think that you need to uphold deals with people you hate then you're completely untrustworthy and I would never do business with somebody like that because they could always find a pretext to slander me as a "bad person" in order to try to weasel out of our business deal, like Kesha did to Dr Luke.
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I didn't read the receipts so I have no idea what was or wasn't promised but I just want to go on record saying that in the past I've advocated for the deletion of the moobs pic behind the scenes without anything being offered in return because I just think it's the right thing to do ✨
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Well I disagree with that also. She posted the pic, so that's on her. Don't post stuff online if you don't mean it. Personally I stand behind everything I've ever posted to this website and I wouldn't ever request deletion.
But while I may not believe in any of your so-called "moral values," I do believe strongly that any agreements made without coercion should be upheld. It's one of my most redeeming qualities TBH
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Just because something can be done doesn't mean that it should be done or that it's right to do so, though.
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Right or wrong is all subjective, but keeping promises and obeying the law is objective.
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Subjectively speaking, I should not refuse to take a shower for three weeks and then go see a movie in a crowded theater. There are no laws against it, but it's a pointless, peepeeheaded thing to do that serves no actual purpose and simply diminishes the quality of life of other people. I am capable of doing it, the law allows me to do it, but I should not do it. While the “should not” is technically subjective, any coherent system of morality also necessitates that I don't.
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Do not engage this dude. He is morally ok with raping children and kept pumping that bird girl thru tears and sobs. He has the moral fortitude of a shellfish
Trans lives matter
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That's a lie, I actually went very easy on Ted because it was our first time hooking up with each other. I stopped every single time she used the safeword, even though it would have been much more fun not to
"She was only 23, you sick frick!"
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Wrong: you only say that because you subconsciously perceive the people in the movie theater as being friends rather than hostiles
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that in itself is wrong: if someome is actively blackmailing me then I might choose lying to them as the retribution
trust is earned, not a given after several account of backstabbing
you can preach "keep ur promise" all u want if u have no hostory or have no breach of trust then sure I'd agree
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@Bookers is inclined too agree with you that 'its the right thing too do'
But - youd also have too heavily moderate and probably temp ban everypony who posts it though and @Bookers think thats where it gets trickier than just "removing it from the site" or whatever
Like you'd have too start handing out bans too people who post it. And @Bookers think that's sort of where the line is.
@Bookers stand with israel
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that's nice sweaty but SPAL just compared transb-word to Hamas
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You're so sweet
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Btw they are BOOBS not MOOBS and they are fricking perfect
Hiding this perfect pair of supple breasts is literally trans genocide
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Yeah I agree there.
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Go off king.
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If even the father of WPD school shooters can be a fricking decent human being then what is your excuse???
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Wrong.
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!mottezans !metashit !r-slurs pseud but also true facts dropped by King R-slur of Frick Mountain
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lol what do you mean
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Wrong
Spal IS frick mountain
not of frick mountain
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Well I do sometimes go hiking at a mountain called "Old Baldy" so maybe
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Please don't say stuff like this; I don't want to take credit for mountain fricking when I haven't managed to earn that achievement yet. Someday...
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Wrong
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simp
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As a fricking user I give much more of a fricking frick about the fricking admin being able to find out if there's an exploit putting me at risk. This isn't geopolitics, there's a fricking way to go about these things. As an admin you look much much worse if you cave to someone's demands immediately after they broadcast to a fricking public groomercord server that they have an exploit for sale
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Exactly. There's a specific code of ethics so that administrators AREN'T put in these situations and tbs male brained terrorist narcissism wrecked them all for a feeble amount of attention
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Yeah, but Transb-word initially tried to fix the exploits (admittedly at a cost, but it was a fair and reasonable one). If Aevann had simply paid her what they agreed upon then she could have become a useful asset to repair exploits rather than causing them. That agreement would have made all of us safer.
Instead Aevann pissed her off so yeah, she went rogue. I would have done the same thing in her place. If I'm a weapons dealer and I offer to sell a suitcase nuke to the CIA, then they better fricking pay me what they agreed to for it or the next suitcase nuke I find goes straight to Al-Qaeda, you know what I mean? This is the same principle. If we want people like Transb-word to behave in a prosocial way that benefits us then we need to make it worth their while.
To be clear, I give zero shits about Transb-word as a person, but it's hard to find an exploit that Aevann missed, and I think that's worth paying a bug bounty for.
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pay them with what? they did it for the lulz.
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With the favor that she was promised: taking down the boob pic. Have you not been following this drama from the start?
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yeah that sounds reasonable considering the history of this drama.
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tb repeatedly did the same shit over and over.
He thinks he is special and can keep getting away with acting like a moron.
Aevann put a stop too it. tb didn't keep his word, why should capy?
trans lives matter too s*x perverts
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Not sure where you are getting this hate business except by conflating what happened with your imagined morality play.
Transb-word threatened him first in the midst of negotiations. At this point all bets are off since it has eliminated any good will in the negotiation whatsoever. Someone threatens to burn down my house unless I give them back the photo of the hairy balls they left in my window. At this point I'm perfectly in my rights to lie to them and find out where they left the can of gasoline, and in fact retaliate pretty fricking hard to keep my surrounding neighbors safe. Aevann was fairly restrained in justified responses, if anything.
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Threats are an acceptable form of negotiation though. All negotiations effectively boil down to the intersection of "What can I do for you?" and "What can I do to you?"
Like if I was an arms dealer who offered to sell a nuke or a bioweapon to the CIA it doesn't make me a terrorist to explain to them that if they don't come to an agreement with me, there are plenty of other interested buyers out there who might use it in a way that they don't like. The fact that this even needs to be explained to them is a problem with them, not me
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The key here is that “there are plenty of other interested buyers out there who might use it in a way that they don't like” against the other party.
Once you threaten the participant you're resorting to underhanded techniques, in which case lying is a perfectly acceptable countermeasure. It's only midwits who cry foul because instinctually they realize their lack of cleverness will put them at a disadvantage.
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Eh, it's a grey area
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random butt pop culture knowledge
but yes, true.
@Bookers stand with israel
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I dunno, SirScrote. I'm fine with lying to people I hate if my failure to upkeep my promise results in something very bad for them. But I don't hate anyone, so I've no examples.
I view "price" as a better test of integrity for keeping promises. For example, the party making the promise has to pay some price: monetarily, such as holding money in escrow, contingent on some contract), or non-monetarily which would be something hard for someone to do, such a person with a long history of lying fulfills a promise. That would mean a lot more than someone who regularly keeps their promise. Obviously, the latter person would always be better to 'exchange' with.
B wanted to weasel her way in and become a mod to ban people she didn't like in exchange for whitehat notices. It's more about the bad intentions and wanting to sell rDrama Cyber Secrets , rather than not keeping a promise (whatever that was, not sure).
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So would you say it's OK to rig elections in order to stop "the bad people" from winning?
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That's why they'd justify it, sure.
I'm thinking more "person v person" in the case of getting even with someone who [actually] has wronged you.
Fraud isn't that great at a systemic level.
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If something isn't great at a systemic level, then it's also bad at the individual level, and vice versa
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Israel is an illegitimate state and has no rights
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We don't negotiate with turrorists
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trans lives matter too autojanny
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