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OMG IF RUSSIA NUKES UKRAINE WE HAVE TO RETALIATE - THE US MUST NUKE RUSSIA INTO OBLIVION

We have to risk total annihilation for a shithole like ukraine.

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The US wouldn't respond with a nuclear attack.

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I know, I've just been reading too many redditor comments and they really seem to want nuclear war with russia.

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There's no real use in a tactical nuke other than turning your country into the next NK. They won't change the reality on the ground and they won't scare NATO off.

Ruskies can huff and puff all day - don't pick fights you can't win, and accept the fact you are a weak country and not a military power.

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I'm thinking there is a 50/50 chance of some type of nuclear weapon being, but I'm a stupid, moron, uninformed chud who has no idea what they're talking about :marseyspecial:

What do people with an actual informed opinion—who aren't doom-posting, nervous Nellies :marseysmug2:—think?

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:#marseyreading:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/09/will-a-nuclear-weapon-be-launched-in-combat-by-the-end-of-2023.html

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This prediction is from Manifold Markets. Metaculus gives similar odds to a similar question. These are serious predictions.

In a 2019 post I pointed out that expert surveys (not markets) suggested the annualized probability of a nuclear war was on the order of ~1%–and I thought that was worryingly high. We are now at ten times that level. This is very, very bad.

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:marseysweating:

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Yeah, it's pretty serious. Glad I don't live anywhere near that shithole! :marseywholesome:

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:#marseysal:

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:marseynotes: We...all...die...in...2..weeks

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I don’t think anyone really knows unless they are in the meetings with putin. Apparently he’s been directing troop movements himself and is starting to lose it(though this could easily be propaganda). This could also be the start to a false flag, it wouldn’t be the first time.

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Very true. I honestly don't really believe anything I hear about either side because it could be utter bullshit propaganda

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I'm a :marseygigaretard: but I figure if he was going to do it he woule have done it already. Why the buildup?

Definitely smells like media ramping up the ukie rhetoric now that it's stale. Very much iraq WMD vibes

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Why nuke Kiev? If he's going to use it it's going to be tactical usage.

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Gotta love equatorial barrier winds!

Climate change solved for a few decades, lotsa raw materials exports, no fallout.

Southerchads win again, suck it northernscum

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Ten years ago this November I made my then-girlfriend cry with a rant about how much of media is selling something through the commodification of identities and interests. She thought I was crazy and asked why I couldn't simply enjoy the pop music about consuming products and engaging in brand loyalty (Hennessy comes to mind). I told her I was not born--and indeed, no one was--to have these conditions thrust upon them and sold as joyful pursuits.

I suspect she started crying then, not tears of amazement toward my basedness, nor because of the idea that much of her interests might have been picked up because of capitalist exploitation and its expectations of her in the role of wealth extraction, but because she realized that we were effectively done and incompatible. We broke up shortly afterward. I was just too weird for her. In her defense I am a real Tyler Durden about shit like this.

That experience is a very important one for me. Some modern applications of Marxist theory, or really any anti-capitalist analysis of certain wealth extraction schemes, just sounds nuts to regular folks. I find a tongue-in-cheek, half sarcastic joke about "being had" is the most effective sugarcoating, if anyone is interested in discussing things such as this article's focus with the uninitiated. Otherwise you might as well begin with "In the world I see, you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center."

Snapshots:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-treaties-government-and-politics-9c1297eb1d1557a91652aa64a0fbdcad:

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