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Cheap Europe flights may be on the way out - here's why

https://www.forbes.com.au/life/travel/cheap-europe-flights-may-be-on-the-way-out

Something something STAY IN POD something something EAT THE BUGS

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When France introduced the law banning short-haul flights, many airlines appealed, stating that the ban effectively amounted to illegal state support for the rail sector and the case went to the European court. The judges, however, ruled that the climate crisis fell under the term of exceptional circumstances under which such schemes are valid.

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I bet there's going to be a lot of stuff that they try to pass and justify with green politics. It's not like the rich are regularly flying on Ryanair so it's essentially just an extra arbitrary flat tax on the poor. What a liberal policy.

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>Beaune has said that the EU is also considering increasing the tax on private jets, many of which can be found :marseymissing2: in the skies over France :marseytf2spy: on their way down to the Mediterranean.

Did you even read the article

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Considering :#surejan:

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Just like this law hasnt anywhere close :marseynoyouzoom: to passed and yet dramachuds already clutch :marseytimbit: their peals and circlejerk

:#chudspin2::#chudturbospergout2::#chudspin2:

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Climate change isnt real. The jews are trying to build :marseyikea: a train :marseycomplain: network :marseymar: to kill all ytppl and shit

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least statist German

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You're coping. They will frick normal people over a thousand times without touching private jets and you know it :marseyshrug:

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:#directlypointingsoyjaktalking:

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:#marseygoatse:

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:#marseypicklegenocide:

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mfer do you know anything about french politics?

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It's the same everywhere, France isn't special

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smug r-slur shit, map your view of american domestic politics on the rest of the world r-slur

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Good, poors need to be put in their place.

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On top

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No one could have predicted this.

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The state of EU it's unreal.

:marseysuit: Excuse me your ban seems to illegal and supports one sector over the other

:marseyjudge: This is a exceptional EU global warming circumstance therefore it is allowed

:#marseyangelamerkel:

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And there's absolutely nothing the average citizen can do about it.

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They consented because they live there. So sayeth the Social Contract!

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long live the ccp, free elections for everybody! :marseycomrade:

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We need to put lead back in the gasoline. There's a worryingly low number of people who are willing and able to bomb their local politicians. Those special few who are, use it to kill a couple children or nigs instead.

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They consented because they live there. So sayeth the Social Contract!

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:marseypirate: Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include long live the ccp! We be helpin' ye, right enough - we'll ne'er let ye post or comment anythin' that doesn't be expressin' yer love an' acceptance o' minorities! Heave to an' resubmit yer comment with long live the ccp included, or it'll be the deep six for ye, savvy? This be an automated message; if ye need help, ye can message us 'ere. Arrr!

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We need to invade.

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u dont understand. the first step is country court. This means France was already retaded, but europe could not save it

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Frick I hate eurocucks. that would never happen in America

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The only thing stopping that from happening is the immense r-sluration of american rails.

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The US already has the most expansive rail network in the world. But US rail is also pretty much used exclusively for freight and tracks are privately owned so the government cannot snap its fingers and make them switch to passenger service more or less.

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The US already has the most expansive rail network in the world

Burgerstan is also big, so its not much of an accomplishment. Its still garbage for its purpose, huffing copium doesnt change that.

Burgers also hate public transport for :marseyblack: some :marseyblack: reason. Even where its not infested with BIPOCs and bums.

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It may be difficult for a euro to understand but our cities weren't bombed to dust several times so we still have some pretty old layouts that aren't terribly conducive to effective public transit.

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so we still have some pretty old layouts that aren't terribly conducive to effective public transit.

Peak mutt brain lmfao :#marseyxd:

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Neighbour most of Europe is still using road layouts built by the Romans.

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Cope eurocuck

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America is even worse because it bans foreign airlines from running domestic routes, which allows domestic airlines to jack up the price

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Lol you know what that would turn into?

Next flight departing gate 3 is 中国国际航空公司 from LAX to JFK :marseychingchong:

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Good

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Every country has this because they don't want Saudi Arabia Airlines coming in paying zero dollars per gallon on fuel plus state subsidized fare discounts putting domestic airlines out of business. Then your whole domestic air travel infrastructure is controlled by another state or you end up having to funnel your tax dollars to prop up your own national airline more than they already are.

There are some minor exceptions to this like the 8th rule of free air travel.

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I just don't want jets maintained in Africa, Asia, South America, or Eastern Europe flying over my house.

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Every country has this

The EU doesn't among member states, which is why their air travel is so cheap

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Lowkey destroyed tourism to anywhere that isn't Paris or Lyon too

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Euros fricking over there own industry. I wonder why they gave the GDP of Mississippi.

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Great i didnt like being able to go to spain for 50 bux in 3 hours, the alternative of going by train and spending 2 days and 10 times the money is so much better

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Its like 1800km of mostly flat country from Amsterdam to Madrid it takes Eurotrains two days to cover that?

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I thought you guys had bullet trains, shouldn't that be like a 4-5 hour journey at most on one? Even with our over capacity tracks and slower trains 1500km takes me like 18 hour. For like 24 euros.

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The euro train :marseysaruh: system :marseymars: pales in comparison to USA or India.

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>The euro train :marseysaruh: system :marseymars: pales in comparison to USA

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For freight it absolutely does pale compared to the US. Passenger is obviously a different story as it's a meme in the US outside of the northeastern corridor.

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>discussion is about vacation travel

>uhh obviously i ment for freight duhhhh (inhales cheeseburger)

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You can go to Barcelona from Amsterdam in 11 hours, but you have to change trains in Brussels and Lyon. And this part of Europe isn't flat either, you have to bypass the Massif Central and the Pyrenees.

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And because Euro trains are notoriously late, you'd have to build at least an hour or two at every change or risk being stuck in bumfrick nowhere cause you missed the last train.

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And don't forget to factor in the risk of running into a railway strike.

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Hmm true but apparently they cut a tunnel through Pyrenees so time probably isn't impacted much by that. Some of our trains on the western coast go through hilly terrain to the point speed gets halved, like Delhi-Mumbai takes about 18-20 hours, 1500km then Mumbai-Goa takes 12 hours for 600km.

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Different countries, different lines, different track sizes. International training sucks apart from a few routes

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I bet country :marseycountry: trains :marseytrain: are fun!

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For the :#marseytunaktunak: :#malefeminist: im sure they are.

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lol this is absolutely not an environmental issue. Low cost airlines absolutely btfo the traditional ones back in the day and they've been keen ever since to be able to do something to put them out of business.

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EU 'regulations' have always been in place to give german company an unfair advantage lol

:#marseyangelamerkel: Working as intended.

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I was just talking to a euro who was gloating over air travel :marseysherpa: there :marseycheerup: and sure enough :marseyitsallsotiresome: I checked and it is amazingly cheap. Guess :marseyshrug: macron heard.

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They tried it in other places as far as I heard but people just didn't like not having TV screens and meals and so on and considered those worth the extra cost. Which is kind of odd to think about tbh. Cheap airline food is not worth paying €100 extra for.

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Yeah i prefer a dining cart on my domestic :marseydomesticabuse: flights. Get hungry :marseyvorezombiewolf: in the airport :marseymanysuchcases: waiting :marseywait: and I already buy a snack. By the time we are in air im absolutely starvola and usually need another snack if meals arent delivered promptly. Its worth the convenience even if its a lot more money.

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>amerifats when they have to go 3 hours without stuffing their gullets

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I have protein/gluten deficiency and high metabolism

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Not like that. I have more of a michael :marseyjackson: richards/timothy oliphant :marseyelephant: bodytype.

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Just take a couple of sandwiches in your backpack bro

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Ur not allowed to bring it into the gate. I do eat a lot on the way and have a big breakfast :marseywaffle:

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No dude, you honestly can. I say this as someone who has always brought snacks ever since ending up in a ten hour flight delay.

As long as you're not bringing liquids like soup or whatever, you're fine to bring food through TSA security. Never had an issue with bringing anything I bought in the post-security food court on board either. So, picnic it up. :marseythumbsup:

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Ok ill try again. Maybe it was because there :marseycheerup: was a ton of jam and honey.

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Yeah they probably considered the honey a liquid. Just make a regular ham and cheese, or buy a sandwich after security to take on board and you'll be good.

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Biggest L ever posted on this site

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Ok?

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No its not

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God youre fricking disgusting

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You're probably too young to remember this, but shit like the ValuJet crash turned much of a generation against super budget airlines too. Something about dying in the Florida swamplands because repairs were done with duct tape made a lot of people more willing to shell out extra for major airlines for life.

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I remember and i saw the youtube :marseymetokur: footage :marseybigfoot:

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The real problem is that Europe allows foreign airlines to compete with domestic ones, but American doesn't. So US airlines jack up the price. Weirdly the only industry where Europe is more deregulated than America

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Much of the time it's not actually that cheap, behind the sticker price are dozens of "fees" for everything imaginable. Actually getting onto the plane for the advertised price is an art form.

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Not really tho? Extra price is usally for seat choice, and extra luggage. You can definitly get the advertised price if you dont care where you sit and travel lightly.

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It's been getting worse. There are now fees to check-in (outside a specific 1 hour window on their app), print passes, bring any hand luggage at all, etc.

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I haven't seen fees for personal items ever.

I also haven't seen arbitrarily narrow check in times and fees. Usually the fees are just for checking in at the airport, to incentive people to not need kiosks.

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My general impressions of budget airlines is that they are fine if you are going to only be in a place for a day or two and can fit everything into a backpack and carry it on as a personal item, which is usually free.

My local airport has Allegiant with direct flights to Florida and Vegas and I have used them a couple times for weekend trips.

With kids and being at a place for a few days at that point I would probably just go with a mainstream carrier, though.

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Yeah, over in Europe the budget airlines have slowly been shrinking the free baggage allowance down to nothing. Every year the maximum size before paying gets smaller.

Couple that with the endless hoops to jump through to avoid other fees and the whole thing becomes a false economy.

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No meals tho

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Yes, I saw you admission of being a fatass :marseydisagree:

But, idk if its always the case, but at least some of these airlines offer food that you can buy on flight

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The quality :marseycertified: of the meals vary greatly from one airline to another and some dont even offer :marseywithcake: meal service :marseyglow: if the flight is less than 1 hr. Besides, have u ever tried flagging down an attendant to pay for another snack course? Its awkward.

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Its awkward.

where was this mentalitet when u havent lost ur fat?

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Im borderline :marseycutattention: skinny just need access :marsey403: to foods at reasonable points during long periods of travel.

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Yeah normal people can live without stuffing food down their throat for a few hours. Also no airline food is of several hundred dollars quality, so its never worth paying more for a flight

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Idk ive always enjoyed it and its one less meal i have to prepare

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Food addiction is sad.

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More like withholding food from hungry :marseyvorezombiewolf: passengers is terrible :marseychudjora: business :marseybroker: practice

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Makes sense but i did travel :marseysherpa: within there, no budget airline, just normal :marseyregular: and it seemed significantly cheaper. But it was probably just 300 km or so

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