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Files show exact criteria that needs to be hit before Russia launches nucear Armageddon

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/russia-nuclear-war-china-usa-33220584

Leaked Russian military files reveal that Putin's forces have been practising the use of tactical nuclear weapons in the early stages of a conflict with a major global power, including potential invasion scenarios by China.

The classified documents, which were reviewed by the Financial Times, suggest a lower threshold for deploying such weapons than Russia has previously admitted to publicly, according to experts who verified the papers.

The leaked files, comprising 29 secret Russian military documents drafted between 2008 and 2014, include war-gaming scenarios and naval officer presentations discussing the principles of nuclear weapon usage.

The criteria for a possible nuclear response vary from an enemy incursion on Russian territory to more specific triggers like the destruction of 20 percent of Russia's strategic ballistic missile submarines.

Alexander Gabuev, director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center in Berlin, said: "This is the first time that we have seen documents like this reported in the public domain. They show that the operational threshold for using nuclear weapons is pretty low if the desired result can't be achieved through conventional means."

Russia's tactical nuclear weapons, designed for limited battlefield use in Europe and Asia, can be delivered by land or sea-launched missiles or from aircraft. These are different from the larger "strategic" weapons intended to target the US.

Modern tactical warheads still pack a punch, releasing significantly more energy than the bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima in 1945. Despite these files being over a decade old, experts argue they remain relevant to Russia's current military doctrine. The documents were shared with the FT by western sources.

These defensive plans reveal deep-seated suspicions of China within Moscow's security elite, even as Putin was forming an alliance with Beijing. This alliance included a nuclear no-first-strike agreement as early as 2001.

Over the years, Russia and China have strengthened their partnership, especially since Xi Jinping assumed power in Beijing in 2012. The conflict in Ukraine has solidified Russia's position as a junior partner in this relationship, with China providing crucial economic support to help Russia withstand western sanctions.

However, even as the two countries grew closer, training materials show that Russia's eastern military district was practising multiple scenarios depicting a Chinese invasion.

These exercises provide a unique glimpse into how Russia views its nuclear arsenal as a key component of its defence policy - and how it trains forces to execute a nuclear first strike under certain battlefield conditions.

One war game scenario portraying a mock assault by China reveals that Russia could potentially employ tactical nuclear weaponry to thwart "the South" from continuing an offensive with a second line of troops.

"The order has been given by the commander-in-chief . . . to use nuclear weapons . . . in the event the enemy deploys second-echelon units and the South threatens to attack further in the direction of the main strike," the guidelines explain.

China's foreign ministry rebutted any hypotheses about distrust towards Moscow. A spokesperson stated: "The Treaty of Good-Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation between China and Russia has legally established the concept of eternal friendship and non-enmity between the two countries. The 'threat theory' has no market in China and Russia."

Putin's spokesperson said: "The main thing is that the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons is absolutely transparent and is spelled out in the doctrine. As for the documents mentioned, we strongly doubt their authenticity."

An additional coaching resource designed for naval officers, which is unrelated to the war simulations involving China, presents wider scenarios for executing a nuclear response, such as an adversary's foothold on Russian soil, the capitulation of forces guarding the frontiers, or an impending conventional weapons strike by an enemy.

The slides outline the threshold as a mix of circumstances where Russian forces' losses "would irrevocably lead to their failure to stop major enemy aggression", creating a "critical situation for the state security of Russia".

Additional triggers could be the destruction of 20% of Russia's strategic ballistic missile submarines, 30% of its nuclear-powered attack submarines, at least three cruisers, three airfields, or a simultaneous strike on main and backup coastal command centres.

Russia's military strategy also anticipates the use of tactical nuclear weapons for various objectives, such as "containing states from using aggression [...] or escalating military conflicts", "stopping aggression", preventing Russian forces from losing battles or territory, and enhancing the effectiveness of Russia's navy.

Putin expressed his disapproval of using tactical nuclear strikes last June but then highlighted that Russia possesses a larger non-strategic arsenal than NATO countries. "Screw them, you know, as people say," Putin remarked.

The US has assessed that Russia holds a minimum of 2,000 such weapons. Putin said last year that Russian nuclear policy permits two scenarios for deploying nuclear arms: in response to an initial nuclear assault by an adversary, and if "the very existence of Russia as a state comes under threat even if conventional weapons are used".

Putin himself has stated that neither of these criteria is likely to be met, and he has dismissed public calls from hardliners to lower the threshold. The materials are designed to train Russian units for situations where the country might want the ability to use nuclear weapons, according to Jack Watling, a senior research fellow for land warfare at the Royal United Services Institute. He clarified that this does not establish a rule book for their use.

Watling further explained that the requirement at this level is for units to maintain the credible option for policymakers to employ nuclear weapons over the course of a conflict. He emphasised that this would be a political decision.

Despite Moscow's growing closeness with Beijing since the war games and the movement of forces from the east to Ukraine, it continues to strengthen its eastern defences. William Alberque, director of strategy, technology and arms control at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, noted that "Russia is continuing to reinforce and exercise its nuclear-capable missiles in the Far East near its border with China".

He pointed out that many of these systems only have the range to strike China. Alberque also mentioned that Russia is still behaving in accordance with the "theory of use" of nuclear weapons set out in the documents.

He said: "We have not seen a fundamental rethink," and suggested that Russia is probably worried that China may try to take advantage of Moscow being distracted "to push the Russians out of Central Asia".

The documents reveal patterns consistent with exercises regularly conducted by the Russian military before and after Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Alberque, a former Nato and US defence department arms control worker, highlighted instances of Russian exercises in June and November last year that utilised nuclear-capable Iskander missiles in two regions adjacent to China.

While only Russia's president has the power to initiate a first nuclear strike, the low threshold for tactical nuclear use outlined in the documents aligns with a doctrine some western observers label as "escalating to de-escalate".

This strategy suggests a tactical weapon could be deployed to prevent Russia from getting entangled in a widespread war, especially one where the US might step in. Using a method it refers to as "fear inducement", Moscow would aim to conclude the conflict on its own terms by startling its opponent with the early deployment of a small nuclear weapon - or securing a settlement through the threat of doing so.

Alberque explained: "They talk about 'soberising' their adversaries - knocking them out of the drunkenness of their early victories by introducing nuclear weapons. The best way that they think they can do that is to use what they call a lower 'dosage' of nuclear weapons at a much lower level of combat to prevent escalation."

Ukrainian officials have suggested that Putin's nuclear threats may have deterred the US and other allies from providing more substantial military support to Kyiv earlier in the conflict.

Alberque believes Russia would be less likely to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine, which lacks its own nuclear capabilities and the ability to launch a large-scale ground invasion, compared to China or the US.

According to Alberque, Russian leaders think that while a nuclear strike on China or the US could serve as a wake-up call, a similar attack on Ukraine could escalate the conflict and potentially provoke direct intervention by the US or UK. He added: "That is absolutely the last thing Putin wants."

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The Irish Star? What is this bullshit? The first couple of hyperlinks in the text just recursively redirect you to this same article that hosts them

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my plan: to make the USA more credibly willing to nuke russia for using nukes, we could do something like having an election between two geriatric old men who might die in office even without a nuclear war so it seems like they'll use nukes :marseywholesome:

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Step one: steal nukes from israel

Step two: nuke russia with stolen Israeli warheads

Step three: grill while the slime bombards each other

:#marseygrilling2: :#marseysaluteusa:

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Just nuke russia but write 'to russia from china' on the rocket to deceive them.

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We dont need nukes lol. We could cripple the russian military with conventional weapons alone.

Only poor kitty countries need tactical nukes.

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yes but consider: you could nuke russia

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it's not about winning a conventional war it's about making russia decide not to use nukes

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This article focuses a lot on China, but a competent military should have plans on how to deal with any other country that could be a threat, even if they are friendly right now. The US should have a plan on how to deal with the EU and vice versa. Just like how China and Russia obviously have plans on how to deal with each other.

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Yeah probably. But the EU-US relationship is quite different to the RU-CN relationship. The former don't share any land borders, have never been to war with each other, and are (mostly) part of a unified military structure in NATO.

Meanwhile, the latter were at each others throats following the Sino-Soviet split. If you believe some sources, only the intervention of the US stopped the Soviets glassing the PRC in 1969.

Those tensions, of course, diminished in later years, especially since Russia's fiasco in Ukraine. But they could rise again, as Russia's population continues declining and China wearing the man-pants in their bilateral marriage of convenience.

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only the intervention of the US stopped the Soviets glassing the PRC in 1969

:marseyraging: FRICK YOU AMERICA

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Russia's population continues declining

That's a simpleton views, Russian population technically went up by couple of millions since Ukrainian conflict started and is declining slower than Chinese population

Russian birth rate was 1,5 in 2019 (it's higher now)

Chinese birth rate was 1,15 in 2019 and is lower now.

have never been to war with each other

I mean it's not like UK was at war with US ?

part of a unified military structure in NATO.

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The thing is if to US it's EU and Asian friend were real friend then US wouldn't had send them to lost decades.

Russia's fiasco in Ukraine

Well it's not 2022 anymore, west pumped over 450 billions since December 2022 into Ukraine. All Ukrainian success were before December 2022 and without much nato gear and help. Kiev was never bombed as hard as it's now when they had Soviet systems. Russia turned this into "look all the nato gear can't stop us" and got control of multiple African countries and now cracked the unitary western world when all the important countries outside the west don't care about sanctions and are trading with Russia.

We all want to believe we are smart right ?

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1. Wow, I didn't know the UK was part of the EU in 1812.

2. Yeah, US and Germany/Japan have never been more isolated lol.

3. I see we are now in week 124 of the world's second most powerful military's non-fiasco 2 week SMO.

I try to be nice to people, but vatBIPOCs and vatBIPOC lovers truly are the most pathetic motherlovers around.

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1. Wow, I didn't know the UK was part of the EU in 1812.

Making out non senses won't make you smarter. You probably also didn't know in Libya just like a year ago US sponsored Meryl's were fighting French sponsored mercs and this happening around in many parts of the words where US interest are different from EU.

2. Yeah, US and Germany/Japan have never been more isolated lol.

Homosexual is your vocabulary stuck in 2022 ? You remember how it was used against Russia ?

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Just a month ago they been telling this and then silently prolonged it to 2026.

3. I see we are now in week 124 of the world's second most powerful military's non-fiasco 2 week SMO.

Like for real, give rest to miley already. Yes he US general was wrong in 2022 a year where your vocabulary is stuck

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Saying it for billion times won't make spring counteroffensive success

I try to be nice to people

I don't true to be nice to stupid frick like you because being nice to you is the reason you are stupid. it's like we stopped bullying fat people and % of fat people went up.

You out of your butt pulled shit about Chinese/Russian population. Next time you'll think twice about sharing your outdated information as facts.

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Work on your grammar, please. I don't get paid for my agendaposting, so I'm not putting in enough effort to translate whatever it is you're attempting to say.

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Man why do you have to be so predictable? Going for grammar is last resort

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Huh? I can't understand you.

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I wonder what our plans to nuke Canada look like

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I know during the 30's our warplans against the UK started with invading Canada (even if they don't join in the war) and then holding onto it militarily with the intent to never let it go. !leafs just 90 years ago we had plans for annexing you, don't you think we won't do it if given the chance.

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Please take either the West, or Quebec and Ontario, but not both.

Not because annexation is bad but because this way i wouldnt have to share a country with those r-slurs

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In my ideal world we'd annex all of Canada except Quebec, which we'd make an independent puppet state.

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Better make it a big landfill

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quebec doesn't have any of its own satellites, right?

so just cut it off. like literally cut all communication and prevent anybody or anything from crossing the border

yeah the people there might suffer but it would be fun to see what would happen next :marseydance:

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I personally have plans on how to deal with the EU and US if they come after me. Same for every other country. Better leave me alone, b-words.

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:#marseyxd:

!powerusers this b-word :marseychonkerbutch: boy doesn't know his place.

Glory to Russia! :marseysaluteussr:

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I just beat up a babushka

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Truly sage advice, the first country to do this will be so advanced and prepared

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My homosexual friend why you don't mention that after investing 450 billion into Ukraine since December 2022 they didn't captured single city or town and now for over 12 months after spring counteroffensive they didn't captured single settlement ?

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"Fellow vatnigs, how can we explain away the fact our 2 week military operation to destroy the ukrainian government is going on 3 years of a stalemate and massive losses? I know, lets constantly point out how the west has given ukraine a tiny fraction of the defense spending available."

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Does any of your words has a backing ?

tiny fraction of the defense spending available

You clearly have no economical background but at this point even you have to understand west doesn't have weapons to give to Ukraine now. US is begging Israel to sell back the patriots

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You forgot how you coped about Soledar and how badly Russian soldiers are trained ? To later witness how nato trained brigades got owned during spring counteroffensive ?

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Neighbor everything given so far has been excess lmao.

You are legit r-slurred if you think Nato has given even 5% of what we could.

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Israel is already planning on getting rid of Patriot because they developed more capable David Sling and other systems… so they were planning to sell them anyway, which also requires US approval.

Also RU has a lot more SAM systems than US because Soviets were behind US in missile+aircraft development and had a huge territory to defend which created doctrinal differences

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RU has a lot more SAM systems than US because Soviets were behind US in missile+aircraft development

I been telling that since day one, Ukraine conflict ain't nato war. Now Ukraine even manages to lose more artillery guns than Russian that's a huge F for Ukraine.

The funnies part is also Russia is now fighting more like Ukraine did in 2022. Using smaller units and droning the shit out of other side. While Ukrainian are lost in their thoughts.

Also Israel ain't going to give those patriots to be using against Russia. Somehow all the pro Ukrainian forgot that Israel is not against Russia, them simping for Israel doesn't mean that Israel will be against Russia.

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:#ziggerseethetalking:

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Even Russians know that Chinese are unpredictable selfish alien bugs

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I'll repeat this:

If we've really been dumping this much money into defense and they don't have any kind of defense against ICBMs I'm gonna be so fricking pissed.

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going to war with Russia betting on the fact that you MAYBE have ICBM defenses is really r-slurred

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I'm confident that if Russia fired ICBMs at the US, regardless of how many casualties we sustained, Russia would be eliminated from the map entirely. Which is why I doubt they'd do it.

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US would also be wiped out lmao, Russia has way more nukes than the US

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:surejan:

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God I hope I live to see a Chinese invasion of Russia

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