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@Sphereserf3232 President Biden to apologize for 150-year Indian boarding school policy :marseycherokee:

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NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — President Joe Biden is expected to formally apologize on Friday for the country's role in the Indian boarding school system, which devastated the lives of generations of Indigenous children and their ancestors.

"I would never have guessed in a million years that something like this would happen," said Secretary of Interior Deb Haaland, a member of the Pueblo of Laguna. "It's a big deal to me. I'm sure it will be a big deal to all of Indian Country."

Shortly after becoming the first Native American to lead the Interior, Haaland launched an investigation into the boarding school system, which found that at least 18,000 children, some as young as 4, were taken from their parents and forced to attend schools that sought to assimilate them, in an effort to dispossess their tribal nations of land. It also documented nearly 1,000 deaths and 74 gravesites associated with the more than 500 schools.

No president has ever formally apologized for the forced removal of Native American, Alaska Native, and Native Hawaiian children — an element of genocide as defined by the United Nations — or any other aspect of the U.S. government's decimation of Indigenous peoples.

During the second phase of its investigation, the Interior conducted listening sessions and gathered the testimony of survivors. One of the recommendations of the final report was an acknowledgement of and apology for the boarding school era. Haaland said she took that to Biden, who agreed that it was necessary.

Haaland, whose grandparents were forced to attend a boarding school, said she was honored to play a role, along with her staff, in helping make the apology a reality. Haaland will join Biden during his first diplomatic visit to a tribal nation as president on Friday as he delivers his speech. "It will be one of the high points of my entire life," she said.

It's unclear what, if any, action will follow the apology. The Department of Interior is still working with tribal nations to repatriate the remains of children on federal lands, and many tribes are still at odds with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which has refused to follow the federal law regulating the return of Native American remains when it comes to those still buried at Carlisle Indian School in Pennsylvania.

"President Biden's apology is a profound moment for Native people across this country," Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chuck Hoskin Jr. said in a statement to The Associated Press.

"Our children were made to live in a world that erased their identities, their culture and upended their spoken language," Hoskin said in his statement. "Oklahoma was home to 87 boarding schools in which thousands of our Cherokee children attended. Still today, nearly every Cherokee Nation citizen somehow feels the impact."

Friday's apology could lead to further progress for tribal nations still pushing for continued action from the federal government, because it's an acknowledgement of past wrongs left unrectified, something "known and buried," said Melissa Nobles, Chancellor of MIT and author of "The Politics of Official Apologies."

"These things have value because it validates the experiences of the survivors and acknowledges they've been seen and we heard you, and also there's a lot of historical evidence to suggest this happened," Nobles said.

In Canada, a country with a similar history of subjugating Indigenous peoples and forcing their children into boarding schools for assimilation, an apology from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2017 was followed by the establishment of a truth and reconciliation process and the injection of billions of dollars into First Nations to deal with the devastation left by the government's policies.

No such commission exists in the U.S. A bill to establish a truth and reconciliation process was introduced last year by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, but it remains in the Senate.

Pope Francis issued a historic apology in 2022 for the Catholic Church's cooperation with Canada's "catastrophic" policy of Indigenous residential schools, saying the forced assimilation of Native people into Christian society destroyed their cultures, severed families and marginalized generations.

"I am deeply sorry," Francis said to school survivors and Indigenous community members gathered in Alberta. He called the school policy a "disastrous error" that was incompatible with the Gospel. "I humbly beg forgiveness for the evil committed by so many Christians against the Indigenous peoples," Francis said.

In 1993, President Bill Clinton signed a law apologizing to Native Hawaiians for the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy a century prior. In 2008, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd formally apologized to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples for his government's past policies of assimilation, including the forced removal of children. New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern made a similar concession in 2022.

Hoskin said he is grateful to both Biden and Haaland for leading the effort to reckon with the country's role in a dark chapter for Indigenous peoples, but he emphasized that the apology is just "an important step, which must be followed by continued action."

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@DEIShill pls pin

The US has literally already apologized for this before in an official capacity under Obama

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Native_American_Apology_Resolution

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No president has ever formally apologized for the forced removal of Native American, Alaska Native, and Native Hawaiian children

:marseyconfused: Native Hawaiians didn't have a federal sponsored boarding school system, what? In fact, they already had a series of boarding schools created for themselves that only Native Hawaiians were allowed to attend and they still exist to this day btw

an element of genocide as defined by the United Nations

Selectively using the genocide definition while ignoring that A) the children have to be taken without the intent of giving them back and B) has to be done with the intent to literally destroy the targeted ethnicity/demographic/population and US did neither. Children went home for the summers or holidays or family events and often went back to their families once they graduated or their families decided to attend nearby local schools. It was nowhere close to genocide omg :marseyoverseether:

or any other aspect of the U.S. government's decimation of Indigenous peoples.

:marseyraging: The US has literally already apologized to Native Hawaiians and Native Americans, which even already covers and apologizes for abuses with boarding schools (which also claims they were primarily "forced")

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Oh, poor sphereboy.

:#marseymadpat:

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What? :marseysad:

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I hate to see you so fraught with anger. :marseycry:

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:marseyblush:

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"We formally apologize... you don't get any of your land back tho"

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Yeah, so that's it. It's all good now. Don't need to give them any more pay outs.

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There's nothing they could do anyway. "No-backsies" had been invoked not long after the land had been taken. Legally binding.

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Like that sign I saw in someone's front yard that said "This is Kalapuya land" right next to one that said "For Sale".

:#marseylaugh:

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>Kalapuya

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This is how it started with Canada and look what happened to them, frick frick frick :marseyraging: :marseyrage: :marseyoverseether:

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Why are you mad that Biden's apologising to you? :marseyconfused:

!friendsofsphereserf Our resident heya-hoya is mad :marseyscared:

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Imagine if Singapore decided to apologize to Malays

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But they weren't genocided? :marseyshapiro:

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Exactly, so how would you feel if Singapore apologized? :marseyshapiro:

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But they weren't forced to go to boarding schools? :marseyshapiro:

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Neither were Indians :!marseyindignant:

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If they weren't why is Biden apologising for it? :marseyshapiro:

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Because he doesn't know better :!marseyindignant:

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yet :m#arseychingchongsupremacy:

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Malays would be more of a victim of genocide than Native Americans :!marseyindignant:

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NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — President Joe Biden is expected to formally apologize on Friday for the country's role in the Indian boarding school system, which devastated the lives of generations of Indigenous children and their ancestors.

:marseyfacepalm: The absolute majority of Native American children who were sent to boarding schools were west and north of Oklahoma, the tribes already there already had schools and school systems so they didn't attend boarding schools in any large numbers, and in fact had a large hand in helping run the actual boarding schools.

"I would never have guessed in a million years that something like this would happen," said Secretary of Interior Deb Haaland, a member of the Pueblo of Laguna.

A cabinet member known for pestering people about Native American issues being "surprised" that her cabinet leader "organically" wanted to apologize? :marseyconfused2:

"It's a big deal to me. I'm sure it will be a big deal to all of Indian Country."

:#marseyxdoubt:

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During the second phase of its investigation, the Interior conducted listening sessions and gathered the testimony of survivors. One of the recommendations of the final report was an acknowledgement of and apology for the boarding school era. Haaland said she took that to Biden, who agreed that it was necessary.

So Haaland, who had already had made up her mind about the boarding schools even before becoming secretary, ran the official investigation that only happened because of her insistence and talked and collected testimony from likely hundreds to thousands of alumni "survivors" from all over the country and still happen to come to the exact conclusions as the beliefs she already held? :marseyglancing: She also probably updated Biden on the :marseyairquotes:investigation:!marseyairquotes: and probably gave not subtle hints so idk see how she was surprised when he decided to take her recommendation.

Also, "survivors" :marseyeyeroll:

Biden during his first diplomatic visit to a tribal nation as president on Friday

Has Biden seriously not visited a single tribe or Native American town? :marseyxd: Or are they just labeling it as :marseyairquotes: diplomatic:!marseyairquotes: this time under the pretense of tribal sovereignty?

Remember to all non-burgers: each and every single Indian tribe recognized by the US, including ones with only 100 people or so, are officially as much as "sovereign nations" as your country according to the US :marseysmug2:

as he delivers his speech. "It will be one of the high points of my entire life," she said.

:marseycherokee: :marseylaughpoundfist:

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!friendsofsphereserf holy shit he actually deboooonked the whole article throughout the whole thread :marseypoggers: internalised nativemisia is such a beast

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>internalised nativemisia

No it's not :marseyannoyed:

The whole article made me sneed uncontrollable so I sperged out like any good user on this site :marseythumbsup:

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Only a heya-hoya would have such in depth knowledge of the heya-hoyas :marseyhesfluffyyouknow:

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Are you native-american? :marseyhmm:

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Why do you ask that? :marseysad:

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I enjoy asking questions? :marseybow:

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Shortly after becoming the first Native American to lead the Interior, Haaland launched an investigation into the boarding school system, which found that at least 18,000 children, some as young as 4, were taken from their parents and forced to attend schools that sought to assimilate them

Most of them were voluntary and were no coercive, and there alternative day schools near the actual tribes themselves. :marseyannoyed:

Also is "18,000" the number of all Indian children sent to boarding school or only the number of children they confirmed were :marseyairquotes:forced:!marseyairquotes: to attend? How would they even confirm it?

in an effort to dispossess their tribal nations of land.

NO IT WAS NOT :marseytrollcrazy: It was literally only to give education to a generation of Native Americans who had mostly never had formal education and would be left behind compared the rest of the US if they didn't.

You could argue that the schools were for assimilation and what assimilation even means in that capacity since giving Native American children familiarity with mainstream culture should not be seen as a bad thing, but you have to be either a massive manipulative cute twink :soyquack:or a complete r-slur :marseyretard3: to think that the schools were an attempt to

It also documented nearly 1,000 deaths and 74 gravesites associated with the more than 500 schools.

:marseymalding: Literally less than the child mortality rate in a large part of the country at the time. Also they're 100% using the word gravesite in order to draw comparison to Nazis :pepereeeeee:

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in an effort to dispossess their tribal nations of land

This is literally virtue signalling. They can't just say something that reasonable people would agree with, like "forcing kids against their will to go to a boarding school far from home is bad". They've got to slip something in there to prove that they're not a reasonable person, they're a true wingcuck. Which I suppose you'd have to do in order to work for AP these days.

It's just patently r-slurred on the face of it. Where do you get the kids from if you don't have the land? I wish these tards would ever think to themselves "I wonder how that worked?" Because either they would realize they were wrong or they would have to make up some really funny imaginative scenario. Like the US cavalry going on an arduous 300 mile expedition in order to capture children, not kill them, bring them back alive, and put them in a school.

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In Canada, a country with a similar history of subjugating Indigenous peoples and forcing their children into boarding schools for assimilation, an apology from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2017 was followed by the establishment of a truth and reconciliation process and the injection of billions of dollars into First Nations to deal with the devastation left by the government's policies.

And it has been a complete and under disaster for Leafistan since. Anyone who does not have shitlib brain rot should take one look at what happened in Canada and be repulsed at the suggestion of creating one in the US.

Remember, this is the end result that they want. :marseydisgust:

No such commission exists in the U.S.

https://media.tenor.com/ZttURy99Kn8AAAAx/good-great.webp

A bill to establish a truth and reconciliation process was introduced last year by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, but it remains in the Senate.

Lmao of course :marseyrofl:

But now since Biden is officially giving an apology it might actually get passed :marseyrope:

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Hoskin said he is grateful to both Biden and Haaland for leading the effort to reckon with the country's role in a dark chapter for Indigenous peoples, but he emphasized that the apology is just "an important step, which must be followed by continued action."

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Pope Francis issued a historic apology in 2022 for the Catholic Church's cooperation with Canada's "catastrophic" policy of Indigenous residential schools, saying the forced assimilation of Native people into Christian society destroyed their cultures, severed families and marginalized generations.

"I am deeply sorry," Francis said to school survivors and Indigenous community members gathered in Alberta. He called the school policy a "disastrous error" that was incompatible with the Gospel. "I humbly beg forgiveness for the evil committed by so many Christians against the Indigenous peoples," Francis said.

Reminder that Injun activists pressured Francis into giving an apology and ambushed several times and in the end they still treated him like shit and demanded more. One even ambushed him on the tarmac for a journoid quote as he was about get on his plane. Literally no other group of people or country that Pope Francis has visited has been as self-absorbed and narcissistic as they have.

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Friday's apology could lead to further progress for tribal nations still pushing for continued action from the federal government, because it's an acknowledgement of past wrongs left unrectified, something "known and buried," said Melissa Nobles, Chancellor of MIT and author of "The Politics of Official Apologies."

:marseyeyeroll:

"These things have value because it validates the experiences of the survivors and acknowledges they've been seen and we heard you, and also there's a lot of historical evidence to suggest this happened," Nobles said.

:#marseysurejan:

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It's unclear what, if any, action will follow the apology. The Department of Interior is still working with tribal nations to repatriate the remains of children on federal lands, and many tribes are still at odds with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which has refused to follow the federal law regulating the return of Native American remains when it comes to those still buried at Carlisle Indian School in Pennsylvania.

:marseyconfused: the children's graves were already known by their families, they're not newly discovered mass graves. Many were buried at the schools instead taken back to their families and tribes because most of the children who died died from highly contagious diseases like tuberculosis so the bodies would have been a major health hazard if taken across the country, especially for Native Americans who had a proven history of being vulnerable to contagious diseases.

"President Biden's apology is a profound moment for Native people across this country," Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chuck Hoskin Jr. said in a statement to The Associated Press.

"Our children were made to live in a world that erased their identities, their culture and upended their spoken language," Hoskin said in his statement. "Oklahoma was home to 87 boarding schools in which thousands of our Cherokee children attended. Still today, nearly every Cherokee Nation citizen somehow feels the impact."

No they won't :marseyfacepalm: The Cherokee language was already on the decline before the schools were even established and most Cherokee weren't even sent to the boarding schools outside of the ones that were considered "elite" or specialized in certain studies or trades. The Cherokee, like most tribes in Oklahoma or in the South, were already pretty acculturated for the past century or so if the ytoids actually wanted to destroy all of Cherokee culture they wouldn't have to work too hard.

Btw, this chief is also the same one who tried to get Jeep to rename their Cherokee brand and the majority of Cherokee Nation peeps thought it was pretty petty and unnecessary. :marseysmug:

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In 1993, President Bill Clinton signed a law apologizing to Native Hawaiians for the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy a century prior.

They literally said that US hasn't apologized to Native Hawaiians before earlier in the article :ragestrangle: :marseyreportercnngenocide:

And US didn't even overthrow the Kingdom of Hawaii, private citizens, both Americans and Europeans as well as Hawaiian nationals (though many were yts (but not all which tiki nationalists will never admit)) did. The annexation of Hawaiian Republic, while a little finicky, was and is still valid (Texas was annexed by similar means) and Native Hawaiians got to keep their massive plantations and kept the overworked Asian majority as second class citizens underneath them :marseywholesome: until after WWII

In 2008, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd formally apologized to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples for his government's past policies of assimilation, including the forced removal of children. New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern made a similar concession in 2022.

Wtf did Kiwicels do to Maori? :marseyconfused:

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