Trump says he will end birthright citizenship : neoliberal
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Like the rest of the world? America is pretty unique in saying "oh fair enough" if you happen to sneak by the border guard while pregnant
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All of the !americas countries have ius soli, it's a New World thing.
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plot twist people only want to go to USA LOL
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I'd settle for reciprocity. Only get it here if burgers can get citizenship in your shithole for their children. Same for property ownership. We can't directly own companies or real property in , so why should they be allowed to do so here?
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So no citizenship for euros born in the US, but full citizenship for Latin Americans (all of LATAM has birthright citizenship)
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Lmao got 'em
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fricked up, imo, but I'm more interested in rightoids getting poorer and still stuck where they are so I can laugh at them when they will need to blame someone else for their failures and realize their savior dgaf about them. lol
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Yeah bro, imagine needing to be born to a citizen to have citizenship, how fricked up is that? We should let a ton of people just game the system through a loophole instead.
Birthright citizenship was meant so black slaves couldnt be refused citizenship after the civ war, given that their status as citizens has not been at issue for over a century, we can and should have gotten rid of birthright citizenship ages ago
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It'll just reinforce their
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Never gonna happen, MAGAcels are too proud, stubborn and locked with Trump to admit they fell for a bullshit vendor.
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The sophistry you're referencing has been used for and against all ideologies since the beginning of time and will continue until the heat death of the universe.
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r u a bot?
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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No, I'm just not a complete imbecile like you who posts myopic reddit tier gotcha comments.
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do u suck peepeey peepee?
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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It's not going to happen, but this is an amusing issue because it's one of the things where Americans take for granted as enlightened and progressive but actually most of Europe does not have birthright citizenship either.
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So your grandparents and parents are German and you're born to them in Germany in a German hospital and you're not considered a German Citizen?
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R-slurred hypothetical considering all of those people would already be citizens. It's about the parent's citizenship status.
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This is one I'll be interested to see the outcome of. It'd fundamentally change how the US works and I think it could actually happen.
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He can't eliminate birthright citizenship without a constitutional amendment, chances it happens are close to zero
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I think SCOTUS could overturn US vs Wong Kim Ark. It wouldn't require an amendment, just ignoring stare decisis which this court is very happy to do. It'd be litigated to death sure, but SCOTUS and Trump both seem to be willing to teat the boundaries of their power.
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Sure, and they could also bring back slavery, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'd rather see them overturn Lochner next.
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!male feminists would we have a better time raping if we are enslaved around a bunch of women? which slave owners use the most women?
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Idk it just feels less r*pey when it's your own property. Like, crashing your own car is kind of lame, but stealing a car and crashing it is cool.
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I think they'll overturn Obergefell first, then go after Wong. I'm not sure they have the will or competence to make it happen, I just feel like they could, if they really committed to it. Which is darkly exciting.
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I think rightoids are getting too excited by having Roe overturned thinking this means that they'll just start overturning everything that protects leftoid policies.
But Roe was a uniquely shitty decision and even a lot of leftoids knew it. So I don't see it being overturned as a sign that decisions like Obergefell are in danger. They couldn't even get affirmative action killed properly last year.
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Obergefell is a shitty decision lmao
Mormons and muslims pushing for polygamy under Obergefells own standard is potentially enough to overturn it with them actually seeking a legitimate expansion of it with legitimate religious and historical backing. Polygamy, which obergefell denies, actually has a better argument by the judges who backed the obergefell decision than gay marriage does.
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I mean Alito said he was going after Obergefell. I think it'll happen.
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That would be extremely fricked up and would erode any trust in the Court, not to mention the clusterfrick it would create with the millions of second-gen Americans.
SCOTUS being aligned in some ways doesn't mean they'll do anything Trump tells them, they don't owe him.
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And that would stop them because...?
We're about to have a SCOTUS where a majority is was appointed by Trump. They will all be people comfortable with a total reshaping of US government. They will side with him because they agree with him, not because he coerced them into anything.
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Because Trump won't be in power forever and the next dem administration will 100% pack the court or even call for impeachment if they actually rip apart the constitution like that.
Trump will be out of office in 2029, why damage your own position which will last longer than him?
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maybe if they had balls or a spine, which they don't
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Good, now the families can be deported together
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Every 2nd and 3rd generation American relied on birthright citizenship lmao
He's going to dunk on every American just to pwn the beaners
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GOOD
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