/r/climatechange used to be an interesting sun to have rational discussions on evidence based news and papers on climate change. This thread for instance was made specifically to tackle the most anxious worst case scenario alarmists.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/aqdmbz/im_afraid_climate_change_is_going_to_kill_me_help/
Up until a year ago the sub treated Climate Change on a similar way as the scientific community did, a very serious global problem that will cause the unnecessary deaths of millions and displacement of dozens of millions not to mention the costs caused by damage and rising sea levels.
Some examples
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/k1vyxo/scared_and_uncertain_about_collapse/
>In my opinion /r/collapse is not a credible source for information about climate change. The users of the subreddit hardly ever seem to caution their statements with evidence, sources, or citations to the scientific literature, and much of it is simply just slippery-slope argumentation with the predetermined goal of claiming that civilization will collapse in the next few years. If you want to learn about climate science I would suggest you look for sources that have some kind of academic credentials in a relevant field, and most importantly who cite their claims directly from the published literature. But that's just my opinion.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/cy8j91/prediction_by_extinction_rebellions_roger_hallam/
>Don't tell that to /r/collapse, they think it'll be 20 billion and the clathrate gun will boil us all alive.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/ynwqms/when_will_climate_change_end_the_world/
>It will create new challenges for humans for a new reason. Displacement not due to war but due to floods etc. Hunger due to climate change combining with the raft of other reasons people are now hungry. It will impact the poorest people in less developed countries the most, and the richest in the developed countries the least. The poor have far less buffer before they are impacted than the rich.
>Most people on Earth will be fine and it will just change the flavour of life as we know it, not stop us being sustained.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/j0saqd/is_overpopulation_really_not_a_big_deal_even_when/
However during the last few months the sub received an influx from /r/collapse and now they're favoring the fringiest of worst case scenarios to the point of claiming the human race will go extinct or that society will collapse in a couple of decades.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/16q4nwt/to_people_who_think_climate_change_will_cause/
>For example, phytoplankton make about 50% of our breathable oxygen. They die if the ocean pH gets too low or temperature gets too high. This is happening. It's therefore reasonable to assume the makeup of our atmosphere may exit the very fine balance required for humans to breathe.
>Don't forget about refugee crises, an increase in nationalist violence against immigrants, and also, RESOURCE WARS! It's not just gonna be some storms and flooding, there will be millions of refugees and billions in disaster relief, in addition to impacts on global supply chains.
>What leads you to believe we will survive?
>Did you notice how many people died in floods this year? Phoenix was 120 degrees half the summer. People can't survive that for long.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/1bajchm/florida_and_climate_change/
Of course books like “Limits of Growth” have become mainstream among them
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/190kil7/3040_years_ago_was_the_situation_the_world_is_in/
>The Limits to Growth was written in 1972 and modeled well what is happening.
>What? First of all, that repot does not even address the topic of climate change. But regardless of that, it's spectacularly wrong, demonstrably so. https://reason.com/2012/04/18/the-limits-to-growth-40-year-update/
Also “The Population Bomb”
>Check out the book, Population Bomb in 1968, foretold most of what is happening and why. People still don't see population growth as the #1 problem we face.
This is a book which predicted mass famines in India with hundreds of millions dead happening as early as the 1980s, subsequent editions changed that to the 2000s, the author is still alive and claims he was right about everything and continues to double down.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/1bbdjdt/opinion_im_a_climate_scientist_if_you_knew_what_i/
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Climate change was important until I read that article about it doing 5% damage in global economic growth over 100 years. I don't think the believers have updated because they think of tradeoffs as "all-or-nothing" scenarios. Besides, we've already got a great solution: nuclear energy, but noooo because cute twink reasons, so I really can't take that crowd seriously.
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Nuclear
?! No thanks 
! Wind 
, solar 
, and bikes 
my guy 
! As long as they don't block 
my million dollar view 
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I will give them nuclear, or I will go nuclear. These fools have no idea what's coming to them.
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Dubs of truth!
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!slots200
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This is my party slogan:
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Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb them all!
I want a nuclear war!
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Homeless population rising?
Refugee camps overpopulated?
Gene pool is stagnant and lacks cool mutations?
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Fr, fr. If I was just half as certain as they claim to be of a climate disaster, I would be buying or moving far away from the city and learning how to farm and can food immediately, but for some reason they do the opposite. It's impossible for me to take it seriously when they themselves clearly don't.
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Like half of online climate activists are just wannabe authoritarians that use it as cudgel to give reason to disenfranchise the suburbs and rurals because they consider them to be their political enemies and they want the taxes that go to these areas to go to themselves for gibs.
They also think they can reeducate them if they force them to move to the city and assimilate with their culture to achieve a socialist paradise.
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It's such a shame since any socialist
worth their meagre salt would 
advocate for far more effective energy 
production ( 
) to reduce 
costs for the working 
man. Can't have a socialist 
endgame without easy access 
to energy. It's all downstream of it.
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I am friends with a lot of libshits. They all professed to believe in climate change and they lived in austin tx.
Anyways some snow came in and the temperatures dropped to 30 degrees for a few days. Everyone lost their minds nobody had a winter coat, a three day water supply, spare batteries or a basic emergency kit.
I was an otr trucker, had a camping stove, food/water cell phone battery sleeping bag and tent inside the truck just in case i had to bug out
Yeah the climate change is a hoax. Anyone claiming climate change is serious should have a shtf system and at least enough camping supplies for a week long backpacking trip
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There are outcomes between "it was a hoax all along" and "planet incinerated" you know. Nice
outcomes that kinda suck but don't mean we get to quit our jobs and hunt squirrels.
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I mean they were all climate doomers yet wont take any personal steps to ensure basic safety from tornados or power outages or simply living at 30 degrees
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quit buggin neighbor
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Dude nuclear lmao. Uranium grows on trees and is totes renewable
The experts are just big oil shills, surely, that's why they ignore the perfect energy source that is Nuclear 
Report this post if you are straight and hate black ppl
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you can recycle
nuclear fuel 
. Something like 90% of the energy in nuclear fuel goes to waste, and recycling 
fuel also reduces the amount of nuclear waste produced by consuming short-lived isotopes 
Also it only takes a small amount of uranium
to generate a lot of energy. A single uranium fuel pellet 
produces as much energy as a ton of coal 
also there is a ton of uranium undergound in the US
and Canada 
, probably enough to last a really long time 
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There's literally millenia of Uranium in the earths crust. We could make energy dirt cheap until space travel advances enough to mine asteroids and we unlock fusion, but unfortunately we have decided to make people use paper straws and lower their standard of living.
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The only real problem with nuclear is that it takes a long time to build a plant. We have thousands of years of fissile material to work with.
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The part about climate change that makes me seethe is that the US taxpayer absolutely will be on the hook for bailing out Florida r-slurs and scammers who developed properties on sinking sand dunes 2" above sea level
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Nuclear is the inevitable path, why would a species stop expanding (how could it, even?) until every available resource is exhausted? The sooner we get on it the safer it will be when we inevitably start using it for the majority of our needs.
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this cracker
doesnt like cool animals 
like polar bears or siberian tigers or cool fish that are gonna 
go extinct 
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First two:
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imo these echo chambers are incredibly bad for mental health, the climate doomer thread on SA resulted in a number of goons having to visit head shrinkers and get put on meds.
For all the talk of mental health and user safety letting these echo chambers run amok is completely irresponsible
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To be honest I think those types of subs just draw anxiety ridden wackos like a moth to a flame in general. Like there isn't a single /r/zerocovidcommunity user that is not medicated on enough xanax and SSRIs to kill a horse.
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Case in point.
It's the who's who of reddit whackjobs.
!nooticers
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We've achieved peak Reddit
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god the seethe in this one was amazing several years back. I wonder what they're up to nowadays, probably still seething about people who aren't complete failures
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I just looked and it's all Israel-Hamas seethe and complaining about strawman chuds and liberals. So usual failure kid Reddit sphere.
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It's the stick of westoid leftism, the barbarism of 'socialism or barbarism', climate change is always framed by these people as something that neo liberalism and capitalism can never fix so they only way to save the planet is communism.
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It's an indirect result of USSR's collapse. They have no hope in their ideology itself, therefore all they do is to pray for the collapse of capitalism or anything that they labeled as right wing.
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This is the bad ending of capitalism realism
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watermelon politics.
I notice it a lot on HN where getting rid of private property seems to be the number one issue when it comes to climate change.
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(((Climate Justice)))
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Don't you get it? The only options are becoming socialist or nuking all third worlders! There is no other decision that could be made!
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Such echo chambers offer a venting space for those feeling vulnerable. I understand your perspective that the more of the same paranoias and fears that you crowd together in one place, the less likely a healthy outcome can result for all involved. However, for myself with a similar trauma issue, allowing yourself to pass through those spaces and then leaving them behind calmly has helped. That said, such spaces on reddit are not where I seek solace for such things.
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Thank you for sharing your trauma narrative, queen. This thread is a safe space
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Lmao I'm just saying they've got some utility, thanks for making this a safe lil space for me and my feels
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In 2050 they'll be telling us everything will collapse in 2070 and so on.
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on one hand climate change bad,
On the other i saw some models that showed it would put most of Ireland and Wales underwater.
So ups and downs
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They'll all have to move somewhere though.
If nothing else, rightoids should care about climate change for its impact on migration.
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The Welsh we can maybe integrate there's like a total of 15 of them.
The Irish im afraid will have to drown, we wouldn't want to impede upon the independence they worked so hard to achieve.
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That can be fixed by beefing up border security.
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Build a wall, and they won't come.
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Inverted millennialism and it's consequences
It's good that they found a solution to climate change though, turns out it's the standard progressive stew proposed to fix everything.
https://old.reddit.com/r/climatechange/comments/17v43h4/266_trillion_in_climate_spending_is_a_nobrainer/
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Is Snappy suggesting that Climate Change is as real as Bigfoot?
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No, she's suggesting that Bigfoot is extinct because of climate change
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Use "Beep" instead of "she". Please respect beep's pronouns.
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boop*
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Xhe watched south park
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What is astonishing is this was written during the great leap forward and they specifically chose the lower population, marginally richer country to set their malthusian nightmare in. This despite total arable land in India being equal with that in the US.
!bharatiya
Another one I found funny is that French cute twink with a victim complex, instead of making the ebil refugees invading France Nafris, Sub Saharan Africans or even Viets if they had to go to Asia that one too went to India. Why are cumskins such
s?
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A cynical answer is that they find us to be the most ugly and hence the most acceptable to hate
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Its sentences like this where you get a peek into the actual bottomless pit that is the average redditors skull. If someone said that IRL I'd just smile and disengage, no point even caring about what someone that r-slurred believes.
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Climate change is great. Lots of potential profit when Greenland melts. Just have to figure out which stocks are the best.
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The idea that Russia or Canada wouldn't benefit from warmer temperatures is utterly insane to me. Yes I know the soil needs more nitrogen but that's not as hard as it seems. Just gotta make the farmland you need.
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we are like 50 years in to
the climate is literally going to end the world any minute now if we don't do something! 
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I remember being a kid in the late 90's and being told that New York was going to be under water by like 2020 and didn't happen unfortunately.
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i sprayed can after can of hair spray in to the air. i did my part but they LIED TO ME!
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My main concerns are selfish — I don't want my summers even hotter and swampier than they already are, and I like nice cold winters.
I also worry about animals, but that's probably just my foid brain talking.
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Hotter shit getts the more work I get. Pay stays the same though. But people say "I appreciate you" more
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Funny how they're all doom & gloom about overpopulation when CO2 emissions are greening the earth in increasing crop yields.
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