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Dramacels, !spacechads, what are some of the most ludicrous, possibly wrongful and reddity pop sci videos/channels you've come across?

My thumbnail example is a Kursgesagt video about Terraforming Venus.

I know they try to make it as “scientifically sound” as possible, but the whole idea sooooo incredibly far-fetched, it involves building giant planet size mirrors to cover sunlight from Venus so the CO2 in the atmosphere freezes, followed by harvesting nitrogen from Titan and removing all the frozen CO2. Not to mention water from Europan ice and another giant mirror to provide day/night cycles (as Venus is almost tidally locked).

Another is their Dyson sphere video

Which includes disassembling Mercury

They also have these pop physics videos where they try to convey some “deep” philosophical ideas like this one.

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>LE BOLTZMANN BRAINS :#marseybigbrain: :#marseysoypoint: by the way, what do physic-cels here think of this concept, is this even taken seriously?

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>THEY MADE A REFERENCE TO THE CURRENT THING :#soysnoo3:

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@Geralt_of_Uganda I remember you made a thread on them once

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>pre-diluvian

The word is "antediluvian", you mongoloid. Opinion discarded.

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One of the words I learned when reading Lovecraft :#marseycthulhu: He uses tons of cool words that you usually don't see as a ESL speaker.

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so true

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All of this is wrong.

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Is this a leftoid or schizoid meme?

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LUDDITE :marseyschizowall:

PILLED :marseyschizotwitch:

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It is humanities, not science, killed God.

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Hold on I wasn't aware there was a Korean enlightened society in schitzo history

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Read up

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:#marseyreading:

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Cryptic symbolism in my dreams told me you go down on your own mother

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I know I'm a very pessimistic negative nancy much of the time, but much of that unrestrained praise and false wholesomeness is very bizarre to me.

It feels off and falsified, like people imitating mirrors. I don't know how to put it into words

It's not that I don't enjoy hopeful discussions about an improved future, but I find that dissecting the shortcomings of over promised engineering projects and faltered undertakings can often create a greater understanding of shit than false make-believe

I often find greater insight in the Human condition, AKA our ingrained r-sluration, can be gained by studying our failures, rather than :marseyjerkofffrown: about some fake wholesome imagining

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People gotta hope to strive, and hoping is crazy to begin with.

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No there's a difference between holding healthy hope to future improvements, be it for a club or a country, and wasting vast mental energy on false projects, foregone shit shows or holding your self blind to the corruption of of a system

These kurz video ideas and moron audience reminds me of people holding grandiose ANC annual municipality meetings about renovating hospitals or public houses to win provincial town of year awards, when we have such problems as no active sewage refineries working.

In theory there should be enough time in the world for both pressing and trivial ideals discussions in these types of things, but I have seen the effects of diluting practical ground necessary projects, with false philosophical bullshit,

The practical needs always lose out to the nonsense

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It feels the same to me as people who buy lottery tickets. When you buy a lottery ticket, you're more so just buying and excuse to daydream about fantastical “what if's” exponentially better than your current state. Conversely, the more tempered approach you describe is like the people that invest regularly, wisely, and frankly boringly, that tend to actually see the results.

I do enjoy the extreme moonshot ideas and the wild extrapolation myself. Then I go back to the real world where minuscule incremental progress is all that works.

Let's be honest, the vast majority of the Kurtz audience will probably never even learn calculus or even diagram a benzene molecule. There is no real opportunity value by pop science, except for Saudi Arabia's NEOM line city lol

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wasting vast mental energy

:marseybi#nos: I don't think there's anything close to that within miles

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These kurz video ideas and moron audience reminds me of people holding grandiose ANC annual municipality meetings a

The good thing is that the soyence fans won't be setting public policy or influencing much in general.

:marseyangel:

Except maybe "green" subsidies, but that's a small chunk of the pie in the US.

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Reddit :marseyplacenofun: killed :marseyconfuseddead: all notions of wholesome. It means as much as incel :marseyelliotrodger: now.

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star trek

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Groomed at least two generations of nerds (and useless eaters/non-productive cultural weight) out of their lame hobbies and into thinking about space.

We're gonna miss out if we rely solely on the ham radio tier neurodivergents.

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Extremely based comment.

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The :soyjakwow: face is itself a false :marseypinocchio: simularcrum of what soulless :marseyglobohomo: bugmen cattle think :marseymindblown: is a sign of happiness. Something their meagre existence is bereft of suckling the teat of a ruling class that hates them and hiding :marseyinabox: in their shadow.

!chuds

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It feels off and falsified, like people imitating mirrors. I don't know how to put it into words

You mean the general video style/formula they use?

often find greater insight in the Human condition, AKA our ingrained r-sluration, can be gained by studying our failures, rather than :marseyjerkofffrown: about some fake wholesome imagining

Looking back at astrobotic's failure with their moon lander and the quasi failure of Intuitive Machines for instance just shows how darn hard is to land on the moon, it also shows how incredible the Luna probes and the Apollo landings were back in the 1960s and 1970s, same will go for Artemis once they land in a few years.

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Its this sort of existentialist bullcrap. "wow dude nothing matters so lets just all do what ever we wants as long as it conforms to the standards of liberalism"

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"wow dude nothing matters so lets just all do what ever we wants as long as it conforms to the standards of liberalism"

you're literally gay

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The study of failure is absolutely critical for the development of success. I will repeatedly design things that fail in some specific way to examine how they fail.

Reject the opinions of anyone who thinks you can overcome thermodynamics by being a secular humanist hard enough.

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Somebody has to have tried for there to be a failure to study from, that's the critical part you neighbors seem to forget about science.

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>you

Neighbor I is defending the scientific method

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I didn't read an only assumed :marseyspecial:

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I'm just happy that some people are excited about scientific ideas. I don't really care if they're midwits or sound stupid because it's better for it to be science than something r-slurred like shitty music and celeb gossip.

People who like studying failures want a deeper understanding. Most people are not like that because they lack the will and are kinda dumb.

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Your words might mean more if you achieved more than shitposting on an obscure site for social outcasts glorifying luddism.

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😎🆒😎🆒

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Give him a break, he's from Africa, the land of NGMI.

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i stopped watching Kursgesagt after their video saying if everyone on earth just got rid of their nukes we could all live in post war harmony

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I think they did come out and apologise for the excessive preachiness a few years back. Since then they've only really been doing space-based clickbait though.

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Sounds like standard nugerman libshittery

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Lmao you can only be a sovereign state if you have nukes. That's why the best Koreans wanted them so bad.

:#marseyflagnorthkorea:

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Have you seen their now deleted video about :marseyairquotes: Syrian :marseyairquotes: refugee crisis? That was an instant unsub from me.

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I remember watching their “so you will die” video and it just became “like you should pave the way for humans to travel to space dude” and i have no interest in that and wont after i die. Im interested in the whole ceasing of consciousness thing and the only thing that provides a semblance of relief is religion

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Shut up and die like a man (scared, in terrible pain, pissing yourself)

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At this point why don't we just cut off everyone's hand so we can't fight anymore?

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I FRICKING HATE SCIENCE!!

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I hate pop science that just turns into that Tim and Eric sketch

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Loving science = soy

Hating science = grug

Only science grillers will win

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!soyteens do not forget these genre-defining gems:

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Retvrn :marseymonke: to philosophy :marseyfrenchvan:

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>I do this every night with your son...

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Trust the science chud

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How did Grug fashion that metal nail in his club anyway? :#marseythonk:

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By "accident" /e/chudgrug.webp /e/marseywomanmoment.webp

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Yeah, I like to flex my 82 IQ points sometimes

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These guys are literally owned by Bill Gates.

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Link

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>1h 50m

:#marseyno:

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Learning... bad! :marseysoyhype:

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Video... bad! :marseymad:

Text :plus: citations... :lappcum:!

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Brevity soul wit

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Post an article.

Watching video essays is a soy behavior.

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Video essay... Soy! :marseysoyhype:

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Boltzmann Brain

:#marseybigbrain:

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This but unironically. Neighbor what is wrong with you, how can someone watch this shit for over an hour?

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You don't.

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And that's a good thing.

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God forbid rich, successful people do anything :marseyeyeroll:

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That donald/mickey panel is one my favorite jpgs on the internet, it's been living rent free in my head ever since I saw it like a decade ago

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Patrician taste

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>#1

:#marseyclappingglasses:

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It's hard to find discussions on proper conceptual space whatnot because people like this are overly obsessed with sci-fi tropes. :marseydepressed:

There's a difference between rocket science and astrophysics compared to "What if Mars was terraformed" :soysnoo3: "What if black holes teleported you around" :soyjakanimeglasses: "What if my peepee was inside a blue chick with head tentacles" :soysnoo4:

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giwtwm

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PBS Space Time is good.

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As a general rule some dude in a basement speaking to a shitty camera will impart more knowledge on you than any of those sleek high production pop science channels, they constantly veer into weird and vapid mix of theory with philosophy that amounts to nothing.

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the whole idea sooooo incredibly far-fetched

Maybe don't watch futurism videos then? R-slur.

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But how else would I farm videos to whine and b-word with dramatards? :marseyshrug:

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Man Kurge(some random syllables) really fell off

Their older videos on fracking, Ebola and nuclear energy were good pop sci

Their latest videos on shit like le heckin paradox, destroy/kill/behead the universe, aliens are shit.

Stopped watching them sometimes in 2016-2017

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Their health related videos are still their best as that's their educational background. Apparently they started the project wanting to write a book about the inmune system then they went off with every single reddit scifi concept.

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Their problem has been chasing clicks instead of trying to deliver useful content.

Unfortunately "explain cancer" doesn't do as well as "omg super huge black hole eats everything"

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Gesagt is german past tense of "to speak", ie "said/spoken" iirc

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boltzmann brain is a fun thing to think about. no need to kvetch over it, like schrodingers cat. zoomers kinda get ahead of themselves when they learn about stuff like this. happens with politics too.

>what are some of the most ludicrous, possibly wrongful and reddity pop sci videos/channels you've come across?

The Infographic Show is a total content farm.

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Also regarding Boltzmann brains

by the way, what do physic-cels here think of this concept, is this even taken seriously?

It's not taken seriously because it's more fit for a philosophy discussion, but in terms of feasibility it heavily depends on the assumption of the universe being ergodic (basically the assumption that every state of the universe/configuration of particles is possible to be reached). Now someone smarter than me could correct me on this because I suck at statmech, but I think the majority opinion is that the universe is non-ergodic and as such a Boltzmann brain might not be able to exist.

On the other hand if the ergodic assumption is correct and such a thing can exist, it still doesn't mean you are one. You'd have to compare probability of an ensembles forming a Boltzmann brain vs an ensemble forming... the world as we see and understand it, and while I've seen numbers thrown around to estimate the former, I have no idea how one would even go arround starting estimating the latter

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short answer- it is possible

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Smh should've just left it at 'big if real'

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i feel like 22 millions views, video is clearly made because some advanced physics video made by sexy Indians have less than 10k views

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I get so triggered :pepereeeeee: whenever I see these guys, Veritasium or Johnny Harris on my youtube frontpage. The epitome of Soros-paid soyence promoters :sciencejak: shilling some far-fetched electric cars on Mars or some shit :marseyrage: Pure midwit shit :marseysmoothbrain:

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Nah, Veritasium is okay

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How about I shove your nerd butt into a locker.

:#marseycool2:

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Veritasium has been on a math videos streak for like 3 years now, what are you on about

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Soros-paid soyence

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Veritasium's math videos are very interesting, have no agenda, and make me feel like less of an r-slur than when I cheated my way through calculus and linear algebra in college so frick you chud :#sciencejak:

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Boltzmann brains

Are a cool thing. Afaik if the assumptions they require hold (afaik they currently do) then it's inevitable that they form eventually. But it's basically irrelevant. More of a fun thought experiment. It's most likely more closely related to simulation theory (philosophy). I do remember I listened to a talk about those things a few years ago, by scientists who do dabble a bit in those fields.

Dyson sphere

Every !trekkies knows about Dyson spheres.

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great episode, references back then didn't feel so forced :marseyboomer:

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Fun fact, this channel is run by the husband of a Republican lawmaker

https://youtube.com/@isaacarthurSFIA

Also everyone knows that Temp X is the only good pop sci content

https://imdb.com/title/tt0384776/

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it involves building giant planet size mirrors to cover sunlight from Venus so the CO2 in the atmosphere freezes

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I think the big issue with Kursgesagt is how they misrepresent science. They focus on the most out there, crazy, big, sci fi ideas which often have little to no testing ability. Is how you get people thinking science is transhumanism and string theory and multiverses and shit instead of actual areas of importance.

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Is how you get people thinking science is transhumanism and string theory and multiverses and shit instead of actual areas of importance.

That's why I always preferred their health related videos on Malaria, the immune system and even the longevity videos (longevity research is still in early stages but at least looks kind of promising and definitely worth investing). Their videos on “how to destroy the universe” or alien stuff are just crap.

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He did one on Phage therapy stuff I used to work on. Neat and theoretically sound solution to anti biotics but are too hyper specific to actually be of mass use. Rn the plan seems to be to just isolate millions of them and cyro store them lol

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Interesting :marseynotes:

By the way, what's your background? Biochemistry? Microbiology?

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Microbiology and computational biology

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Saben is a decent physics channel btfod the soy fav string Theroy decent

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Sabine Chudettefelder, can someone make a post on her? I bet she creates a lot of seethe

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Shes toned some chudiness down like now she 100% believes in human vaused climate change and its danger. Idk any good biology channels since i have no interest watching yt videos on stuff I have to read papers on for school and work lol. All i can say is the general public and my undergrad was like 15-20 years uneducated on genetics

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I hate kuzsgerwhatever. It's mostly irrational. But it becomes more rational by the day

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That's why I only watch chemistry channels. Physics channels are destined to filled with r-slurs that go "muh quantum muh aliens muh black holes" etc.

BTW is there good channels about other less popular stem fields such as civil engineering (no Scott Adams or whoever that guy is called please).

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>good channels about other less popular stem fields such as civil engineering (no Scott Adams or whoever that guy is called please).

Practical engineering. I'm a civil engineer and that channel is great explaining the basics, especially when it comes to hydrology, he also had a good video recently explaining construction machinery.

You mean Joe Scott? His channel is full of shit.

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I mean tom scott

Thanks for the advice btw

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tom scott

He quit. :marseylaugh:

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:marseyagreefast:

chemistry is interesting as frick and since it's mostly practical you don't get the wannabe philosophers

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And unironically chemists know quantum mechanics much better than those who love to talk about that 24/7.

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better than normies for sure, but unless you're a computational chemist you don't delve too deep into it

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Ain't the thing about Kursgesagt the fact that they just source all their data from a site Bill Gates owns and basically just push videos on tech the 'gates has a majority share in?

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>not in US

>opinion discarded

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Perelandra

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I think whats pushed me back to religion is not that i view it as correct but moreso that i realized that the scientific method and various scientists in addition to not being people-people are also incredibly dead set on the most neurodivergent sci fi concepts imaginable that will never happen and never will but are inherently more appealing to their demo because they check various power fantasy boxes: so time travel, space colonies, transhumanism and multiverse theory are treated as plausible whereas the afterlife, the separation of the mind and body and the performance of miracles or prayer as a healing factor arent because they dont fit the sci fi aesthetic. Really all are probably fake but it's better to have an imagination than be some dumb nihilistic virgin

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Space colonies and transhumanism are an inevitability unless humanity is killed off somehow. Moon and mars bases by like 2300 max. :!marseytrain:s already exist and actual cybernetics by like 2500 but probably a lot sooner.

Time travel and multiverse is on the same plane as prayer healing though. Gotta agree with you there.

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I want a virgin girlfriend just to let some random guy take her virginity before me. They will turn my once innocent girlfriend into a peepee crazed slut that's getting multiple monster peepees every day and ruining her once perfect untouched kitty. Then they'll knock her up and leave the pathetic virgin loser cuck husband to take care of her. Maybe when she gets fat, old, and used up, she will say frick it and let me frick her and lose my virginity, but she won't even feel my pathetic little peepeelet

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