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Harvard cancels geo-engineering experiment because it might have solved global warming without needing a planetwide leftist revolution

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/18/1089879/harvard-halts-its-long-planned-atmospheric-geoengineering-experiment/

But critics argue that even studying the possibility of solar geoengineering eases the societal pressure to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

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Net zero by 2050 is a fantasy but filling the stratosphere with sulfur might not be the brightest idea (I think they'll eventually do it regardless). Banning research on it is super r-slurred though, how else will we know whether it could work.

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because they plan on releasing foxDie as the particulate matter, so it doesnt matter if we research whether sodium carbonate works or not

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:marseypuni#shed:

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It's already been done for the last few decades. Stratospheric aersol injection

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Yes and we stopped it because it caused acidic rain and eroded the Ozone layer, and that wasn't even on the scale necessary to cool the planet 1.5 °C

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Proponents of solar geoengineering research argue we should investigate the concept because it may significantly reduce the dangers of climate change. Further research could help scientists better understand the potential benefits, risks and tradeoffs between various approaches.

But critics argue that even studying the possibility of solar geoengineering eases the societal pressure to cut greenhouse gas emissions. They also fear such research could create a slippery slope that increases the odds that nations or rogue actors will one day deploy it, despite the possibility of dangerous side-effects, including decreasing precipitation and agricultural output in some parts of the world.

But the project switched locations several times. Most recently, the team hoped to launch a balloon to test out the aircraft's hardware from the Esrange Space Center in Kiruna, Sweden in the summer of 2021. But those plans were canceled on the recommendation of the project's advisory committee, which determined the researchers should hold discussions with the public ahead of any flights. The effort was also heavily criticized by the Saami Council, which represents the indigenous Saami peoples' groups in Sweden and neighboring regions, as well as environmental groups and other organizations, who argued it's too dangerous a tool to use.

Solar geoengineering 'is a technology that entails risks of catastrophic consequences, including the impact of uncontrolled termination, and irreversible sociopolitical effects that could compromise the world's necessary efforts to achieve zero-carbon societies,' the group wrote in a letter to the advisory committee. “There are therefore no acceptable reasons for allowing the SCoPEx project to be conducted either in Sweden or elsewhere.”

Blah blah blah, live in ze pod, eat ze bugs, use ze electric stove, you know the drill !nooticers...

Trump for prison

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Wow! That advisory committee really hates research.

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Black trans lives matter

:marseypass: :marseylaugh:

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They just don't want anyone doing science in ✨bad faith✨ instead of doing The Science.

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decreasing precipitation and agricultural output in some parts of the world.

!commies

This couldn't possibly go tits up, right?

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Listen you ebil fricking gommie, killing people is fine as long as my life isn't affected.

!nonchuds

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It's shifting anyway, the best course of action is to get data in how and what affects it and make a detailed model (using AI, ofc) so we can better understand it.

Not doing anything is dumb, radlibs are dumb

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I'm completely onboard for testing it out :marseywereback:. I expect them to :marseygigaretard: frick it up in the dumbest ways imaginable.

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THEY ALSO FEAR SUCH RESEARCH COULD CREATE A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT INCREASES THE ODDS THAT NATIONS OR ROGUE ACTORS WILL ONE DAY DEPLOY IT, DESPITE THE POSSIBILITY OF DANGEROUS SIDE-EFFECTS, INCLUDING DECREASING PRECIPITATION AND AGRICULTURAL OUTPUT IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD.

Noooo the Bond villana might just charter a fleet of 50000 easily detectable stratospheric weather balloons to spread sulfur in the upper reaches of the bussysphere to make it .5c cooler locally

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Do these twinks even hear the words that come out of their mouths?

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imagine if they actually do it and we all just have to use more carbon for a year or two to fix it

government subsidized unnecessary flights, just hop in a plane for a few hours while the pilot does big circles over the northeast and you watch top gun

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They've gone full mask off that cutting CO2 isn't a means to an end, it's the purpose of the "green" movement. I don't think it's some reptilian space Jew plot to sap our precious bodily fluids or something, just a lot of rich people with investments in "the new green economy".

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You know that in the 1970s the Carter administration funding a massive study to find out why the Great Lakes were getting acidic and polluted, and then when the researchers discovered it was getting more acidic due to LESS slash and burn farming (which made it suitable for freshwater fish) over the years and returning to its normal levels. The fish were dying because the fish weren't suited to be there in the first place. The EPA and university system seethed so hard and tried to destroy the careers of all involved.

Since then they learned their lesson and don't fund investigations on that scale, they really have a conclusion they want and don't want to prove it wrong. The thing they love about climate science is how unfalsifiable it is and how they've effectively captured the entire industry into a cartel.

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Wow! I learn so much more from racist incels on my catty gossip forum than I have in my 20 years of education.

:#marseygossip:

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https://mises.org/mises-wire/acid-rain-scare-and-science-industrial-complex

The mises institute has a write up about it.

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:platycaveman: Saamis try not to whine for 3 microseconds challenge (nightmare difficulty)

!scandicks

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Wasnt :marseyavril3: this a Vonnegut novel :marseyreading:

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Global Warming Climate Change ™️ is too big of a racket to ever be “solved”.

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It's funny ‘cuz if you did solve “Climate Change” your name would go down in history next to Julius Caesar, MLK, and Jesus…. But you can't milk that for infinity gibs and grants…

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It was "Climate Crisis" for a while.

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Yeah wasn't it like 5 years ago or so that a bunch of pols were saying we had "12 years to live" or some alarmist bullshit?

I was told Florida was gonna sink into the ocean years and years ago but it's somehow still there :marseyhmm:

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I was told rich people still buying oceanfront property and insurance companies insuring it was some sort of 4D chess.

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:marseyhesright:

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The Science :sciencejak: on this is settled, climate change can only be mitigated by implementing sweeping top-down changes to everything about society in a way that looks suspiciously similar to but trust-me-bro isn't actually communism

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The official term for the frickers is watermelons: green on the outside, red inside.

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Geoengineering is an admission that it would be easier to blot out the sun than convince Americans to exercise a small amount of restrain and self-discipline

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Please, not just Americans

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This but unironically. It's incredibly difficult to get humans to just stop doing something. So it's easier to just convince them to also do something else to compensate for it.

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yeah. frick you. The planet and everyone on it can go to heck if attempting to save it inconveniences me in any way. You want to make things better, invent something. Otherwise, you're useless and should keep yourself safe

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Remember that when your future daughter asks what sunlight felt like

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im tired of r-slurs who want to set humanity back. Theres no going back. Humans either invent a solution or humanity has failed and doesn't deserve to exist

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:marseyconcerned: What were plants like, Dad? Did they taste like our soylent rations?

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If people are eating soylent rations, they failed the test

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:marseyconcerned: Why didn't you walk your fatass to McDonalds instead of using an SUV, Dad?

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Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.

:#marseybuffbipoctalking:

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Alpha Centauri was the perfect game

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I'll put her face in the oven

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You're talking to a dramatard, that they'll even have the chance to breed is a pretty questionable assumption

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*Chinese, Indians

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Americope

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17110483547029343.webp

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who gives af about per capita here?

absolute pollution is absolute

idc how many chinks they cram in one place, theyre still polluting harder

keep in mind like 2/3 of chinese are dirt poor so its the 'wealthy' third doing all the polluting too

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Cope #2:

>it's all the manufacturing!!1

USA manufacturing has been going up since 2010 AND reducing greenhouse emissions yoy. Chinks and poos just don't care.

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So if China split tomorrow into ChinA and ChinB, you would consider that a massive improvement, since both of those countries would have lower emissions?

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Per capita only matters when it comes to racial crime stats

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Based Russia with leading emissions despite shitty gdp per capita.

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Despite the public controversy, the SCoPEx researchers earned high marks among some in the field for striving to carry out the field effort in a small-scale, controlled, transparent way, setting down clear research objectives and creating an independent advisory committee to review the proposals

Wow, turns out all that bureaucratic shite is just a way to make entryists' jobs easier, whodathunkit?

the project's advisory committee released a report... it stressed the need to engage with the public early on, to listen to their concerns, and to develop a plan to respond to them

After killing the project, they tout their own success and recommend they should be given an even greater role in future projects. lol, lmao

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:#marseychingchongsupremacy:

Snapshots:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/18/1089879/harvard-halts-its-long-planned-atmospheric-geoengineering-experiment/:

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that's right snappy the chinks will get to it now :marseycrying:

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But aren't they huge fans of coal burning (literal) and also coal burning (the sexual practice)?

Trump for prison

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idk

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utterly obsessed

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Does snappy know something we don't?

Trans lives matter

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It's gonna :marseyvenn6: be really :marseythinkorino2: funny :marseythissmall: for generation :marseyreactor: beta or gamma or whatever :marseytippinghand: when corpos decide to turn the sky into an ashen hellscape to block :marseyerasure: global warming and everything ends up warm and dark and toxic

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It's just like that book termination shock :marseysoylentgrin:

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idiotic

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Climate change is our punishment from the Goddess for electing Trump, repealing Roe, allowing a trans/Palestinian genocide, etc. Any attempts to escape the punishment we deserve that doesn't involve stepping up and finally overthrowing capitalism is cowardly and much be stymied.

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Isn't this what happened in Snow Piercer? Lmao no thanks I don't want to eat bugs :marseyindignant:

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Well the idea is also fricking r-slurred

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Shutting down research on how to block out the sun is BAD actually you commies

:chudsmu#gtalking:

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It doesn't matter. If they don't do it the Chinese will do it first

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sCOPEx :marseygiggle: :marseycope:

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