Star Wars is a fairly tale for kids (Lucas himself said he made a kids movie after finishing it), the first film is about the good guys rescuing the Princess locked in a fortress with the help of a wise wizard. It has a very basic good vs evil premise which works to attract large audiences.
Is not a philosophical political film full of grand ideas and politicking.
I figured it was about chivalry tbh. I mean they're called fricking Jedi Knights and they use magic light swords and have some "code" about upholding honor or whatever. (Yes yes I know IRL knights weren't necessarily super noble but I'm talking about the abstract concept of chivalry.)
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No you can't have your own subjective interpretation of a piece of media!!! You HAVE to appreciate it EXACTLY how I think the creator intended!!! Don't think for yourself or create your own opinions because that's not creative. You clearly lack media literacy.
And yet they managed to frick up doing a fairy tale in space. I don't expect my Star Wars to have any profound insights, I expect it to be fun. Hollywood won't even let us have that anymore.
We all know Star Trek was always a progressive show with Roddenberry projecting his commie utopian views more and more as he aged. But the problem with the newer shows writing is that everyone acts like a moron. I can't believe I'm going to reference a rightoid Y*utuber but Critical Drinker made decent point on how r-slurred the characters act. Having a woman captain, fine, but having her constantly break and cry or have junior officers joking with superiors orders on their commanding officers face is ridiculous. They want Starfleet to be a zoomer workplace when it is supposed to be a quasi-totallynonmilitary organization with a strong chain of command.
Foid writers glorify "vulnerability", crying and being constantly overly emotional while acting stoically is "LE BAD REPRESSIVE MASCULINITY"
They love to spout off about what Gene Roddenberry believed in but there's a lot of things about him they forget. Like that he was a bomber pilot in WW2. So no, he was not woke. He did not ask the tail gunner which pronouns he's using on each mission or let the navigator go have a cry over how stressful his job is. He did not put up for a vote which target they were going to attack. Every guy was expected to do his job to the utmost until that plane landed.
Also btw Gene Roddenberry was horribly misogynist even by the standards of his time. These tards just go by what he said at conventions, not what he said behind closed doors and not how he treated women.
Their woke views are so ridiculously far from the woke views Roddenberry seemed to portray too.
I'm not a Trekkie, but Roddenberry seems to have wanted to portray a future that's better off because humanity was able to rise above their base instincts of tribalism, snap judgements, supersition, religion and conflict. Meanwhile the people claiming Star Trek was always woke want to portray a future where all that stuff is actually really good as long as it's to the detriment of what they view as the currently dominant tribe; e.g. white vs BIPOC, cis men vs "gender minorities", straight vs queer, Christianity vs literally anything that could be defined as a religion other than Christianity.
Star Trek might be woke in the way they try to define and present their progressive views, but it's not even in the same realm as far as they way they actually put their progressive views into application.
If they ever really paid any attention to it they would realize the Federation is all about being colorblind, which is a horrible sin to them. They should want Spock to be part of a Vulcan activist group and refuse to beam down until his grievances are heard.
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The primary problem with Nu-Trek is that NONE of the writers ever served in the military so they have ZERO idea how Navy Officers behave or act.
Soft, weak women would get boxed out waaaaay before they get control of a ship.
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Yeah, when I complain about something being "woke" I'm not complaining that there's like, a black or female actor in it. I'm complaining that it's written super poorly as a way to do insincere political pandering. If you write a good story and just let the character be a good character without being fricking weird about it there's not a problem. The only exception to that is s, probably, because I am legitimately bigoted as frick against s and I never want to see one on my screen in any context.
The worst is that Current Year media is so obsessed with their overly smug circlejerk that I almost have to deliberately avoid anything prominently featuring minority characters to get a good story. Bitches can't just write a character anymore.
Yeah I couldn't care less if there are black hobbits in LotR. But Numenorians stating that elves are going to take their jobs and it's time to make the island great again are such lazy and hamfisted political messaging that it comes across as satire until you realize that writers actually think it's intelligent and clever.
Reminds me of how in Dune 2 there was a part where somebody mentioned that the Southern Fremen are really religious and Zendaya was basically rolling her eyes at their fundie ways. I don't remember if there was anything like that in the book, and I'm no fan of religion so I don't care if they make fun of it, but in the movie it was obviously a forced political reference and it seemed really silly. Like, what kind of people write that kind of shit?
Shit, I'm still mad at Jackson for putting that stupid shield surfing and dwarf tossing in his LotR.
The Dance of the Dragons is a cautionary tale on the dangers of foidery. Rhaenyra Targaryen made sense as heir while Viserys I had no sons, Aegon II claim was always stronger than hers but the girlboss decided to risk a civil war that would kill hundreds of thousands and almost destroy her House while being manipulated by murderous sigma psychopath Daemon (only based black) because she can't resist Big Valyrian Peepee.
Cishet isn't used as an insult tho? I use that clinically, if anything "normal people" is what I put some venom into. The concept of normalcy and it's cultists is fricking lunacy.
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>Dungeons and Dragons
AD&D First Edition unironically had what would be considered relatively far-right themes today, for example the Monster Manual's description of orcs goes full chud about half-orcs (keep in mind that even though orcs are still a monster in 5E, half-orcs are now a not-exclusively-evil player race, but the reasons half-orcs exist have, obviously due to the name, stayed the same), without getting into character or quoting anyone, just in the same context as their stats.
As orcs will breed with anything, there are any number of unsavory mongrels with orcish blood, particularly orc-goblins, orc-hobgoblins, and orc-humans. Orcs cannot cross-breed with elves. Half-orcs tend to favor the orcish strain heavily, so such sorts are basically orcs although they can sometimes (10%) pass themselves off as true creatures of their other stock (goblins, hobgoblins, humans, etc.).
Many of the humanoid monsters contain ways to calculate how many females (OMG /r/menandfemales!!!!) are in the group if the monsters are in their lair. Notably, this is not calculated when these monsters are found as a group outside of their lair, implying that their warriors/raiding bands are entirely composed of men. In many cases, such as bugbears, troglodytes (for extra lulz troglodyte as used in D&D is a near-exact synonym of Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller), centaurs giants, and ogres, the female counterparts of the monsters had lower hit dice and damage, often directly using the hit dice and damage of a weaker monster to represent them.
If 12 or more bugbears are encountered there will be a leader with 22-25 hit points (armor class 4, attacks as a 4 hit dice monster, gets +1 on damage caused). If 24 or more are encountered there will be the following additional bugbears: a chief (armor class 3, 28-30 hit points, attacking as 4 hit dice monster, and doing +2 damage) and a sub-chief (as per leader-type above). If encountered in their lair there will always be a chief and sub-chief, and there will be females and young equal to 50% each of the number of males. Neither of the latter types of bugbears will fight unless in a life or death situation. In the latter case the females fight as hobgoblins and the young will fight as kobolds.
The lair of a tribe of troglodytes is typically a large cave or cavern with small chambers adjoining it in which the individual units live. A lair will contain females equal to 100% of the males. Females fight as 1 + 1 hit dice monsters. There will also be hatchlings and eggs, but these are of no importance.
If centaurs are encountered in their lair it will be a hidden glen with rich grass and running water. Here, there will be found 1-6 additional males, females equal to twice the number of males, and young from 5-30 in number. Females (3 hit dice) and young (1-3 hit dice) do not use weapons and will only fight with their hooves in a life and death situation. If the females and young are threatened, the centaurs will be 90% likely to ransom them with their main treasure. They speak their own language and that of their alignment.
If more than 4 fire giants are encountered in their lair the additional ones will be females (corresponding to frost giants for hit dice and damage/attack), except that if 7 or 8are encountered the last one or two will be young (roll percentile dice for size).
If more than 4 frost giants are encountered in their lair numbers 5 and 6 will be females (treat as stone giants with respect to hit dice and damage/attack), and 7 and 8 will be young giants (roll percentile dice to determine size).
If more than 4 stone giants are encountered in their lair numbers 5and 6 will be females (treat as hill giants with regard to hit dice and damage/attack), and numbers 7 and 8 will be young (roll percentile dice to determine size).
If more than 1 cloud giant is encountered in their lair it is 75% likely that the second will be a giantess (treat as firegiant for hit dice and damage/attack).
If more than 4 hill giants are encountered in their lair numbers 5, 7, and 9 will be giantesses (6 hit dice, and treat as ogres for damage/attack) .
If ogres are found in their lair there will be from 2-12 females who fight as normal ogres but do only 2-8 points of damage and take a maximum of 6 hit points per hit die.
This was not limited to monsters, and similar rules existed for elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, and various kinds of men (the official category which all the generic human stat blocks were grouped under in the book) implying that even in Player Character races, it was extremely rare for women to leave the immediate location of the community, although women had the same stats as men in these cases, deviating from the "-4 str" meme. Also, the different kinds of men included Tribesmen and Dervishes. There was also a source book published until 3E called Oriental Adventures, which was exactly what the name sounds like.
Both Gary Gygax and his son Ernie were pretty chuddy by the standards of today:
In addition to all above, Gary Gygax said:
As I have often said, I am a biological determinist, and there is no question that male and female brains are different. It is apparent to me that by and large females do not derrive the same inner satisfaction from playing games as a hobby that males do. It isn't that females can't play games well, it is just that it isn't a compelling activity to them as is the case for males.
Ernest Gygax was even more chuddy, and tried to create a chuddy D&D alternative under the TSR trademark rather than the WOTC trademark, and even allegedly followed Varg Vikernes on twitter, as well as trying to publish the new edition of Star Frontiers alongside an unironic /pol/tard, complete with races explicitly stated to be based on IRL races. Because of this, reddit seethed at anyone who did anything less than celebrate his illness/await his death: https://old.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/177b2wz/ernie_gygax_jr_needs_our_help/
right. A "boring cishet" just describes a non- who coincidentally happens to be boring and this shouldnt offend other cishets. When i refer to a black person who coincidentally is a criminal as a "criminal black" it shouldnt cause offense to other people of that certain melanated demographic .
!bookworms whatever you may think of GRRM he said Daemon Targaryen was his favorite Fire and Blood character. Meanwhile some fans are like:
>NOO YOU CAN'T ROOT FOR DAEMON! HE KILLED HIS WIFE AND CHOKED GIRLBOSS RHAENYRA
Though most of ASOIAF villains are fairly despicable or just grotesque and hard to root for (Cersei, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, Ramsay Snow, Craster). He wants us to dislike Tywin Lannister and Randyll Tarly too though they're cooler.
I also like Roose a lot. Not a fan of Ramsay (too evil) or Craster (kind of a nothing character)
Frey is whatever, but I like the idea of a giant family and all the squabbles and conflicts that that might entail, although it's not really focused on in the books. One interesting theory I read was that Frey's desire to have so many kids was due to him being raised during the most recent great famine/long winter where tons of his own family died.
I thought the concept of "media literacy" in the current year was about being able to correctly identify fake news, propaganda, bad interpretation of studies, conspiracy theories, etc. i didnt realize it now means interpreting capeshit and starshit strictly through the lens of breadtube.
Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money[...] An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible[...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews[...] Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities[...] The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange[...] The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.
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Star Wars is a fairy tale set in space. There's nothing politically deep to explore lol.
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Lotr is antifa
Literally about a benevolent monarch saving the world and how globohomo tech and BIPOC subhumans are evil
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It's actually about an old dude with fireworks that thinks it's hilarious to send short people on long walking journeys.
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It was a great prank until Boromir got filled with arrows.
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Any movie where the good guys fight the bad guys is antifa
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That is not a coherent statement. Stories are stories, r-slur.
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Star Wars is a fairly tale for kids (Lucas himself said he made a kids movie after finishing it), the first film is about the good guys rescuing the Princess locked in a fortress with the help of a wise wizard. It has a very basic good vs evil premise which works to attract large audiences.
Is not a philosophical political film full of grand ideas and politicking.
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Unless you are a commie.
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Im guessing he spends 20 mins talking about the strike episode (which is longer than the actual episode) and how mr krabs is greedy.
God i love childrens tv analysis channels.
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You are media literate
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I figured it was about chivalry tbh. I mean they're called fricking Jedi Knights and they use magic light swords and have some "code" about upholding honor or whatever. (Yes yes I know IRL knights weren't necessarily super noble but I'm talking about the abstract concept of chivalry.)
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No you can't have your own subjective interpretation of a piece of media!!! You HAVE to appreciate it EXACTLY how I think the creator intended!!! Don't think for yourself or create your own opinions because that's not creative. You clearly lack media literacy.
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Media Literacy is watching and completely parroting narratives from a 3 hour Breadtube video essays about the queer politics of Pokémon, Chud.
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The power of MANY!
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It's clearly about freedom-loving ancaps defeating space communism
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And yet they managed to frick up doing a fairy tale in space. I don't expect my Star Wars to have any profound insights, I expect it to be fun. Hollywood won't even let us have that anymore.
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A ripoff of King Arthur in Space and Dune
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The empire is Ba'athist Iraq
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!trekkies on the "foids saved Star Trek"
We all know Star Trek was always a progressive show with Roddenberry projecting his commie utopian views more and more as he aged. But the problem with the newer shows writing is that everyone acts like a moron. I can't believe I'm going to reference a rightoid Y*utuber but Critical Drinker made decent point on how r-slurred the characters act. Having a woman captain, fine, but having her constantly break and cry or have junior officers joking with superiors orders on their commanding officers face is ridiculous. They want Starfleet to be a zoomer workplace when it is supposed to be a quasi-totallynonmilitary organization with a strong chain of command.
Foid writers glorify "vulnerability", crying and being constantly overly emotional while acting stoically is "LE BAD REPRESSIVE MASCULINITY"
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They love to spout off about what Gene Roddenberry believed in but there's a lot of things about him they forget. Like that he was a bomber pilot in WW2. So no, he was not woke. He did not ask the tail gunner which pronouns he's using on each mission or let the navigator go have a cry over how stressful his job is. He did not put up for a vote which target they were going to attack. Every guy was expected to do his job to the utmost until that plane landed.
Also btw Gene Roddenberry was horribly misogynist even by the standards of his time. These tards just go by what he said at conventions, not what he said behind closed doors and not how he treated women.
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Bomber pilots arent soy drone pilots
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bombs is bombs
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Their woke views are so ridiculously far from the woke views Roddenberry seemed to portray too.
I'm not a Trekkie, but Roddenberry seems to have wanted to portray a future that's better off because humanity was able to rise above their base instincts of tribalism, snap judgements, supersition, religion and conflict. Meanwhile the people claiming Star Trek was always woke want to portray a future where all that stuff is actually really good as long as it's to the detriment of what they view as the currently dominant tribe; e.g. white vs BIPOC, cis men vs "gender minorities", straight vs queer, Christianity vs literally anything that could be defined as a religion other than Christianity.
Star Trek might be woke in the way they try to define and present their progressive views, but it's not even in the same realm as far as they way they actually put their progressive views into application.
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If they ever really paid any attention to it they would realize the Federation is all about being colorblind, which is a horrible sin to them. They should want Spock to be part of a Vulcan activist group and refuse to beam down until his grievances are heard.
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The primary problem with Nu-Trek is that NONE of the writers ever served in the military so they have ZERO idea how Navy Officers behave or act.
Soft, weak women would get boxed out waaaaay before they get control of a ship.
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Yeah, when I complain about something being "woke" I'm not complaining that there's like, a black or female actor in it. I'm complaining that it's written super poorly as a way to do insincere political pandering. If you write a good story and just let the character be a good character without being fricking weird about it there's not a problem. The only exception to that is s, probably, because I am legitimately bigoted as frick against s and I never want to see one on my screen in any context.
The worst is that Current Year media is so obsessed with their overly smug circlejerk that I almost have to deliberately avoid anything prominently featuring minority characters to get a good story. Bitches can't just write a character anymore.
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Yeah I couldn't care less if there are black hobbits in LotR. But Numenorians stating that elves are going to take their jobs and it's time to make the island great again are such lazy and hamfisted political messaging that it comes across as satire until you realize that writers actually think it's intelligent and clever.
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Did they actually do this? Lol
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Yes lmao. I'll find it when I get home.
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Every show since 2016 is required to have a Trump allegory
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An allegory is one thing but straight up "dey tuk er jobs MAGA MAGA MAGA" is unbelievable
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It's real bb, I saw the /tv/ webm
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Reminds me of how in Dune 2 there was a part where somebody mentioned that the Southern Fremen are really religious and Zendaya was basically rolling her eyes at their fundie ways. I don't remember if there was anything like that in the book, and I'm no fan of religion so I don't care if they make fun of it, but in the movie it was obviously a forced political reference and it seemed really silly. Like, what kind of people write that kind of shit?
Shit, I'm still mad at Jackson for putting that stupid shield surfing and dwarf tossing in his LotR.
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You sound media illiterate
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Foid fatigue is real
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NuTrek bad.
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did foids really save star trek when roddenberry was misogynistic as frick and it did just fine in the 60s to 80s without that woman's touch?
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I will NOT read about irl politics in nerdshit. We gotta gatekeep escapism fr fr
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The Dance of the Dragons is a cautionary tale on the dangers of foidery. Rhaenyra Targaryen made sense as heir while Viserys I had no sons, Aegon II claim was always stronger than hers but the girlboss decided to risk a civil war that would kill hundreds of thousands and almost destroy her House while being manipulated by murderous sigma psychopath Daemon (only based black) because she can't resist Big Valyrian Peepee.
!bookworms
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House of the Dragon: Good Morning.
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Cishet isn't used as an insult tho? I use that clinically, if anything "normal people" is what I put some venom into. The concept of normalcy and it's cultists is fricking lunacy.
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!humans humanmisia
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!grillers ummm, is this directed at us????
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Yeah i prefer the term "non-defective people" over "normal people"
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Abbreviated to non-people
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AD&D First Edition unironically had what would be considered relatively far-right themes today, for example the Monster Manual's description of orcs goes full chud about half-orcs (keep in mind that even though orcs are still a monster in 5E, half-orcs are now a not-exclusively-evil player race, but the reasons half-orcs exist have, obviously due to the name, stayed the same), without getting into character or quoting anyone, just in the same context as their stats.
Many of the humanoid monsters contain ways to calculate how many females (OMG /r/menandfemales!!!!) are in the group if the monsters are in their lair. Notably, this is not calculated when these monsters are found as a group outside of their lair, implying that their warriors/raiding bands are entirely composed of men. In many cases, such as bugbears, troglodytes (for extra lulz troglodyte as used in D&D is a near-exact synonym of Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller), centaurs giants, and ogres, the female counterparts of the monsters had lower hit dice and damage, often directly using the hit dice and damage of a weaker monster to represent them.
This was not limited to monsters, and similar rules existed for elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, and various kinds of men (the official category which all the generic human stat blocks were grouped under in the book) implying that even in Player Character races, it was extremely rare for women to leave the immediate location of the community, although women had the same stats as men in these cases, deviating from the "-4 str" meme. Also, the different kinds of men included Tribesmen and Dervishes. There was also a source book published until 3E called Oriental Adventures, which was exactly what the name sounds like.
Both Gary Gygax and his son Ernie were pretty chuddy by the standards of today:
In addition to all above, Gary Gygax said:
Ernest Gygax was even more chuddy, and tried to create a chuddy D&D alternative under the TSR trademark rather than the WOTC trademark, and even allegedly followed Varg Vikernes on twitter, as well as trying to publish the new edition of Star Frontiers alongside an unironic /pol/tard, complete with races explicitly stated to be based on IRL races. Because of this, reddit seethed at anyone who did anything less than celebrate his illness/await his death: https://old.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/177b2wz/ernie_gygax_jr_needs_our_help/
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Cishet is absolutely a slur lol
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Shut up cissy
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!humans thoughts?
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Cis is a trans word to describe 99.992% of the human population.
Hetero is a gay word to describe 99.1% of the human population.
They can go be not-human somewhere else.
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Wrong.
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confirmed
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No it isn't.
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right. A "boring cishet" just describes a non- who coincidentally happens to be boring and this shouldnt offend other cishets. When i refer to a black person who coincidentally is a criminal as a "criminal black" it shouldnt cause offense to other people of that certain melanated demographic .
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You might be strangled for using adjectives as nouns in these contexts but yes
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The media literacy crowd still unable to grasp how homelander is a fun character
"Noooooo you can't enjoy evil superman!! That means you think he's the hero"
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!bookworms whatever you may think of GRRM he said Daemon Targaryen was his favorite Fire and Blood character. Meanwhile some fans are like:
Though most of ASOIAF villains are fairly despicable or just grotesque and hard to root for (Cersei, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, Ramsay Snow, Craster). He wants us to dislike Tywin Lannister and Randyll Tarly too though they're cooler.
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Hate Tywin Lannister Challenge: Impossible
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I loved reading Cersei chapters. What a girlboss
I also like Roose a lot. Not a fan of Ramsay (too evil) or Craster (kind of a nothing character)
Frey is whatever, but I like the idea of a giant family and all the squabbles and conflicts that that might entail, although it's not really focused on in the books. One interesting theory I read was that Frey's desire to have so many kids was due to him being raised during the most recent great famine/long winter where tons of his own family died.
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I thought the concept of "media literacy" in the current year was about being able to correctly identify fake news, propaganda, bad interpretation of studies, conspiracy theories, etc. i didnt realize it now means interpreting capeshit and starshit strictly through the lens of breadtube.
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No it's about knowing that cool movies are satire and you're not supposed to cheer for the protagonist.
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They forgot Harry Potter. The description of bankers is straight from Karl Marx.
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Wrong. Rowling's description of bankers is more akin to "Mein Kampf"
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Snapshots:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=883096680522182:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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@Sylveon the frick is that?
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This is all you need to know.
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That guy did some good comment trolling
Nice find bb
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"Star Wars is about antifa in space" mfers when you tell them not to give 10000 dollars in funko pops to the evil empire of Disney:
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