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I think this time they're surpassing themselves. I've never seen this level of hyperbole from climate change experts and presumed it was just the journos, but she actually said that
She said about two thirds of the 8.2billion people who live on this planet are under an effective "death sentence" as natural disasters will continue to grow more deadly in the years to come unless human behaviors change. "The point is that climate change is happening to everyone and in every region of the world," she said.
She's the head of an environmental consulting firm from Washington DC, it says she's a marine scientist and climate expert.
Anyway, let's check /r/climatechange hysterics
If even 10% of the world is under a death sentence, that is enough to bring war and strife to 100% of the world. People are not going to stay put and just roll over and die lol.
You think illegal immigration is bad now. Shit is going to hit the fan. Look at the maps for worst hit areas: West Africa, India, parts of South Asia and Middle East. Best areas not only in terms of climate but also wealth and preparedness are all the developed 1st world areas.
What does that mean? Are we going to have to be at a low level defensive warfare just to keep people out?
Will it be like World War Z? Probably not, but trends aren't looking good for internal conflict within countries like UK, France, etc.
Immigration is natural. The fact that it's "illegal" is an artificial governmental administration problem.
Oh I agree it's natural. That doesn't mean it's always good. Cancer is natural too.
Yikes, so much xenophobia
Also, RIP @kaamrev
It's crazy conservative.
Way more than 2/3rds.
I hope she an alarmist, because it sounds scary.
If you're new to this and not just being sarcastic; her message is a common refrain from many, many scientists. What nobody can tell you definitively is when this will happen. Therefore, no one is willing to blow up their present for an uncertain future thereby ensuring the worst possible version of the future will happen.
I think most scientists definitely wouldn't go as far as saying "two-thirds of the world are under a death sentence". There's a lot of room between that and "everyone will be fine", and most scientists I think are somewhere between that.
I would have agreed with you until recently where things are starting to unravel a "tad" faster than expected. The models that indicated we weren't going to extinct ourselves are being found to have been too conservative. Scientists are pretty baffled about the alarmingly warm oceans. So, some are starting to sound a more urgent alarm. Not sure that it matters though. We can't help ourselves from waiting until we're.forced to act. There will be some dark days ahead.
It's beyond scary. Anyone alive who doesn't think climate change is the most serious and destructive threat facing the human species is delusional. The earth will endure and will begin to heal after mankind has died and is gone. We are barreling to extinction.
Are they serious? Even the most doomerist climate models don't talk about 5.5 billion people dying, not even close. Lmao, is not even /r/collapse-lite anymore is just full /r/collapse.
I would say it's more like 9/10th. The political strife and food shortages are going to rock the entire world, even relatively climate resilient places will suffer badly because of the disruptions everywhere else.
The trouble with global supply chains is that they break pretty easily.
Dramatards, what's your plan to survive the climate apocalypse?
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this inspired me to look up the weather averages in cape town
https://weatherspark.com/y/82961/Average-Weather-in-Cape-Town-Western-Cape-South-Africa-Year-Round
it actually seems pretty great. If only moving there were still an option
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@kaamrev why did you downmarseyd me? I was only joking REEEEEEEEE
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I asked him about his experiences in the field seeing and he didn't even respond to me.
I bet if I asked our like @timmy_blueballs @Sasanka_of_Gauda @cyberdick they would answer me. How often do you guys see cobras and Russell's vipers etc? Do you have any fun stories to share?
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Lmao, this reminded me of time where my mom yelled "THERE'S A SNAKE IN THE HOUSE!". I came running to the living room and it turned out it was just a longass jumping worm.
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Do you see many fer de lance (I forget which bothrops species are endemic to which ranges) or SA rattlesnakes? Have you ever gone into the Amazon? I know bushmasters are comparatively rather rare but my impression is that you'll see lanceheads kinda all over the place down there. Give me a ping on the because I want to get to know what kinds of snake experiences you've had in your lives.
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I never saw a snake outside a zoo.
I made a stop in the Manaus airport for refueling while on a flight between Bogota and São Paulo, outside that no, I've never been to the Amazon and I live thousands of kilometers away from the rainforest.
!macacos o Corinthiano quer saber se vocês já viram alguma cobra.
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There was a small one in my backyard a few years ago! !macacos @Corinthian
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I didn't know the Portuguese word for snake is just cobra. They had interacted with em before traveling out of the continent so I'm curious why that is? In Anglosphere Bibles the traditional default word for venomous snake was asp/adder and that could refer to a number of species. !linguistics
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In the Portuguese Bible it is called "serpente" or "serpent".
I have no idea why the generic term is "cobra" though.
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Só a nas minhas calças
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É muito grande?
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Não
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the odds of meeting a that has personally gone into the amazon is very slim
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Even on vacation? I didn't think you guys lived in the jungle or whatever.
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It's not a place for vacation lol, most !macacos go to the beach for that. Manaus is supposedly very pretty but outside deep in the forest is pretty dangerous (not just because of the animals and mosquitoes, there are illegal gold mines and wood traffickers there). The transamazonic road is awful so if you wanna tourist then you gotta board a boat, not very charming when you think about it, especially when you can chill out at the coast.
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Naw man, the north is getting more tourists with every passing day.
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I'm the kind of weirdo who would go to a jungle on vacation. Especially now, having been acclimatized to humidity living over here for a while.
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nobody goes into the amazon for vacations
Brazilians in general love beaches (and bitches ) so the coastal areas get even more crowded during the summer
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Neighbor I live there frick u
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Yeah, even in the cities every now and then an anaconda shows up. Because I'm rich I've always lived in tall buildings so I've never found one at home, but I've found (small to medium) them at friends house, a bench in the part, at university, etc.
https://globoplay.globo.com/v/12407191/
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I once petted a rat snake one of the fathers at my school had caught from the computer lab and had wrapped around his arm. And I almost stepped on some snake once in the village, there was a powercut. Only realised from the slithering sound that there was something where I was about to step, switched on mobile torch to see it slither away.
Also topical
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When I was a lil guy my mom would find me playing with garter snakes (harmless) in the garden but I don't think I ever just frickin bit em. Was your near miss experience with a venomous species or was it too dark to confirm?
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Too dark to confirm, probably a pond snake that had come out for some reason since I've never seen any other type in my father's village. Its fairly densely habited place, venomous ones get killed on sight I think. My father saw some, one time their house was flooded and they came back to a russel's viper comfortably nestled in their clothes shelf. A distant aunt married this guy who used to live in the Sunderban forest, mangroves famous for the royal bengal tiger. On her first or second night there she was trying to set up the mosquito net and instead of the rope she grabbed a king cobra that had been comfily sleeping up there Didn't bite her somehow but she threw a fit after that and forced her husband to relocate to the city.
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King cobras are actually quite intelligent and amongst the least defensive species of venomous as far as I know. True cobras are comparatively kinda dumb and act on pure instinct which is why they so much and also why you can "charm" them by keeping their focus on movement.
Great anecdotes though. I knew you guys would deliver for me.
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I used to see cobras pretty often at our family house as it was close to a forest. One experience burned into my brain was when i was playing with firecrakers I was throwing them inside a pile of granite rocks as they made different sounds from the inside the pile, one cracker failed to explode and being the that I was I wanted to get it back from under the rocks so I topped some from above and BAM the cobra stood up in all its glory. I almost pissed my pants and ran for like 500ms until i calmed down
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I'm glad you're ok, pal. That's a fun anecdote. I assume you mean spectacled cobras?
If @kaamrev had stories like that I wish he would share them.
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standard indian cobra
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In English we usually call the standard Indian cobras spectacled because they have the two dots on the back that look like eyes. Also to differentiate between the one-dot monocled cobras also found in South Asia.
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Kaamrev always shares his stories, but you exiled him from /h/dioceseofdrama and he's very sensible.
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I posted on his wall inviting him back if he'd either stop trolling or at least wait to find times when it was a funny one. He told me to frick off.
Most young people in the US are atheist, it's not like I'm terribly sensitive about it. I just ask they give me some effort or have a sense of humor when they do it if they can't be polite.
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