Some doomers chud out about the prospects of climate "refugees"
!ifrickinglovescience !physics
I think this time they're surpassing themselves. I've never seen this level of hyperbole from climate change experts and presumed it was just the journos, but she actually said that
She said about two thirds of the 8.2billion people who live on this planet are under an effective "death sentence" as natural disasters will continue to grow more deadly in the years to come unless human behaviors change. "The point is that climate change is happening to everyone and in every region of the world," she said.
She's the head of an environmental consulting firm from Washington DC, it says she's a marine scientist and climate expert.
Anyway, let's check /r/climatechange hysterics
If even 10% of the world is under a death sentence, that is enough to bring war and strife to 100% of the world. People are not going to stay put and just roll over and die lol.
You think illegal immigration is bad now. Shit is going to hit the fan. Look at the maps for worst hit areas: West Africa, India, parts of South Asia and Middle East. Best areas not only in terms of climate but also wealth and preparedness are all the developed 1st world areas.
What does that mean? Are we going to have to be at a low level defensive warfare just to keep people out?
Will it be like World War Z? Probably not, but trends aren't looking good for internal conflict within countries like UK, France, etc.
Immigration is natural. The fact that it's "illegal" is an artificial governmental administration problem.
Oh I agree it's natural. That doesn't mean it's always good. Cancer is natural too.
Yikes, so much xenophobia
Also, RIP @kaamrev
It's crazy conservative.
Way more than 2/3rds.
I hope she an alarmist, because it sounds scary.
If you're new to this and not just being sarcastic; her message is a common refrain from many, many scientists. What nobody can tell you definitively is when this will happen. Therefore, no one is willing to blow up their present for an uncertain future thereby ensuring the worst possible version of the future will happen.
I think most scientists definitely wouldn't go as far as saying "two-thirds of the world are under a death sentence". There's a lot of room between that and "everyone will be fine", and most scientists I think are somewhere between that.
I would have agreed with you until recently where things are starting to unravel a "tad" faster than expected. The models that indicated we weren't going to extinct ourselves are being found to have been too conservative. Scientists are pretty baffled about the alarmingly warm oceans. So, some are starting to sound a more urgent alarm. Not sure that it matters though. We can't help ourselves from waiting until we're.forced to act. There will be some dark days ahead.
It's beyond scary. Anyone alive who doesn't think climate change is the most serious and destructive threat facing the human species is delusional. The earth will endure and will begin to heal after mankind has died and is gone. We are barreling to extinction.
Are they serious? Even the most doomerist climate models don't talk about 5.5 billion people dying, not even close. Lmao, is not even /r/collapse-lite anymore is just full /r/collapse.
I would say it's more like 9/10th. The political strife and food shortages are going to rock the entire world, even relatively climate resilient places will suffer badly because of the disruptions everywhere else.
The trouble with global supply chains is that they break pretty easily.
Dramatards, what's your plan to survive the climate apocalypse?
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change my thermostat from 71 to 70
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Lmao !eurochads on suicide
watch.
!familyman
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Yuros can't help themselves on this topic, it's very easy too bait them on normie social media. The video in question was an African showing off his mud hut with AC.
White extinction is long overdue
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Why do I need an AC in Germany when the temperature can drop to 52°F in the summer night?
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You need AC because you're grandma might die during the day
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-records-3100-heat-related-deaths/a-66970409
White extinction is long overdue
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My paternal grandma is dead when I was 5 and my maternal grandma lives in Guangdong.
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Your grandma lives on Thisdong
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Because sometimes it doesn't drop to 52F at night.
Look, I play the same games here. I basically have a 1-2 month buffer between summer and winter where I can just open my windows at night and close them during the day, weather permitting.
But sometimes it'll be hot for a few days in a row. The system completely breaks down if it only gets to like 70F at night and back to 90F during the day for even a couple days in a row.
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Hey sexy, why are you posting so quickly? 😊 You almost forgot to include
White extinction is long overduein your comment 😈. Slowww down and remember to postWhite extinction is long overduenext time 😉 if that doesn't make sense stop by sometime and we can talk about it for a while 🥵Jump in the discussion.
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Such sacrifice
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I hate these people so much. I do actually care about the environment and support some sensible environmental regulations but the over-the-top doomer shit just poisons the well. You can't have any kind of rational discussion with somebody who thinks 2/3rds of all humans are gonna die to natural disasters.
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That's why I don't believe
in climate change. It will always be this temperature range forever.
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hey cdace I actually learned a neat dinofact recently
apparently the rings of Saturn are so new that if a dinosaur were to look up at Saturn with a dinotelescope, there would be no rings - they're estimated to be less than 100mil years old.
okay maybe more of a spacefact than dinofact but whatever
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!dinochads good lore drop
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Shit, this completely breaks all of my dino fanfiction
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hey slimy can u ping me when u level to 100 thx
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I'll try to remember
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The souls of the dinos were sent to heaven to form Saturn's rings
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THATS A GOOD DINOFACT
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There were dinosaurs 70 million years ago r-slur so your fact is DEBUNKED
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yeah but the ones 70 mil years ago were bitchmade
cretaceouscels fear jurassichads
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Triassic boomers be like
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There are dinosaurs right now
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For perspective, Hurricane Katrina killed less than .2% of New Orleans' population and it flooded 80% of the city was under at least 10 feet of water. And half of those deaths happened weeks later because of diseases because black people looted moldy bread from kroger
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Perfect example.
You can drastically frick up a city and have it barely show up on the excess deaths blip a la New Orleans. Anyone who has family from there or who has lived in SE Louisiana can tell you that shit is not good and the city never fully recovered from Katrina, even now nearly 20 years on.
Climate change is pretty slow and pretty boring. Oh wow my hurricane holds 0.87% more water this year who gives a frick. Except of course that stacks over time in an infinitely incomprehensible probability buildup where you can't exactly predict when or how bad but you can see the way the chart is going. See also covid masking where going from 0.167 transmission likelihood to iirc like 0.05 doesn't seem like much but over time and applied at rate it helps.
But of course no one lives in a vacuum and the people screaming the loudest get the funding. Neat.
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But they're going to be.
Even if we reduce the CO2 from every human by 10%, as soon as we hit 10% more humans we are roughly were we started. And 3rd worlders make sure that the population is constantly growing. The only thing that can combat climate change is population control.
So the situation becomes worse and worse until millions die.
On the other hand that is not an issue. Infinite growth isn't possible. It doesn't work in capitalism - it doesn't work for humans. The only thing we can hope for is that advanced enough nations survive and humanity doesn't fall back into another dark age. And even then, humanity will survive. Earth will survive.
If you look at climate change you can see the various stages of grief in many people. Some are in denial, some are angry, some try to bargain, ... Some have accepted it.
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Population is gonna peak in 2080 if not earlier at around 10 billion (peak human by 2070 without ever reaching 10 billion is looking more and more likely). "Third world" is a broad term, the only continent with positive fertility rates is Africa. LATAM is sub-fertility and its population growth is due to population momentum, it will peak in 2050. East and South-East Asia are declining, South Asia has stabilized.
Also, forget about per-capita. 50% of emissions come from only 2 countries, the United States and China. Add Russia, India, the EU, Canada, Australia, Japan and Korea and you have like 80% of all emissions. Brazil has 200 million inhabitants and contributes to just 1% thanks to hydropower, wind, biofuels, and solar, less than 2% of energy production in Brazil comes from burning coal. Germany contributes to 2% with 80 million inhabitants.
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Also people living in sheet metal huts
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Our per-capita CO2 emissions vary far more wildly than world population.
In developed nations food might get more expensive and some people may have to move away from the coast but... that's really about it. It'll only really be catastrophic is very poor countries.
We aren't even remotely close to a place where we're using all energy on the planet. Like not even 0.001% there. These kinds of "infinite growth" platitudes may be correct... like thousands of years from now. But I find it pointless to speculate that far ahead, frankly. Technology will be so wildly different in the year 3000 not to mention the year 4000 and beyond that I don't think it should really factor into our current calculus.
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Neo-malthusianism has to stop. They keep peddling the "overpopulation is out of control! There will be 20 billion soon!"
The most populated countries of South America (Brazil, Colombia and Argentina) whom together account for 3/4 of the continent population have a fertility rate lower than the US (1.4 in Brazil, 1.4 in Colombia and 1.56 in Argentina, all for 2023).
India fell under 2.1 last year, Bangladesh is sub-fertility. Only sub-saharan Africa and the Middle-East have TFRs above 3 children but it will not remain that way forever.
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That's all correct, but my point is that even if population increases, it'll still be possible.
In the (distant) past, human population was constricted by food supply (and other essentials like water). Agriculture was vastly less efficient and famines were common because human population kept butting up against the limit, so the inevitable "bad harvest" that would come every few or 20 years or whatever would have a ruinous effect on the population and cause significant deaths from starvation. The population couldn't grow any further, it was at a limit.
That's just straight up not the situation in developed countries anymore and hasn't been in a long time. I mean really think about the US having a famine, where there's literally not enough food to feed our population. We grow so much excess food that we add it to fricking gasoline lmao. Now the reason our population decreases is because we literally just don't feel like having children. Not any external factors, we just don't want to.
So anybody claiming that we're somehow reaching the limit of our resources to sustain our population is (imo) an idiot. We're not. Sure as there's more demand for certain things prices may increase, but food prices are so absurdly cheap these days that they could double and it would still be miles cheaper than it was in the past.
Unless by "infinite growth" someone means we're gonna run out of iron ore or something which is just... lmao.
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I get what you mean, the dumbest ones do indeed think we're running out of resources (I wouldn't be surprised if some of them believe we're running out of iron either), but for what I've seen online, the basic premise the neo-malthusians believe is that population growth will not lead to resource scarcity, but to climate catastrophe triggered food scarcity. "We can't outsmart nature!" They'll say.
The thing is, that's precisely what we have been doing since the Industrial Revolution started, using technology to feed more people and cure diseases allowing for population growth. The Green Revolution averted famine in 3 continents for instance, I wouldn't bet against human ingenuity even in the face of climate catastrophe.
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Not one single person is gonna read all that
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not true nuclearshill will read it
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Humans won't stop what they're doing or start to care about the doomershit full stop. Then the world will continue turning until the next ebola virus or orange man bad comes up to fill the news with other bullshit and everyone will forget about the doomposting again. None of it is relevant in any way.
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If you think about it planet earth is like mankind's battered housewife, no matter how badly we beat it, it keeps plodding along, just a bit worse than before.
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This lady wants her "we didn't listen" moment, but I'll gladly continue making fun of her if she is right guilt free.
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There's literally nothing wrong with such a death toll
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So people who are presently alive are threatened by climate change? I thought it was for 100 years into the future or something
Hmm, so US, China, India and EU suddenly stopping all their coal burning (it's not a nig joke you frickers, stop laughing and grow up) would suddenly remove all climate change threats?
Blyat
!chuds chudbros we gonna git murdered by them illegal immigrants
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Assuming they could magically bring their CO2 emissions to zero? Global temperatures would stabilize at around 1.5 C above pre-industrial levels for the rest of the century. CO2 has a half life of 200 years but you don't need to cut emissions 100% to reach net zero (the point where trees and the oceans absorb the excess CO2).
Turning-off the switch of fossil fuels instantaneously would kill billions though, say goodbye to transport, agriculture and logistics, lol.
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fhe biggest thing is fixing the oceans. the broad majority of carbon comversion is done by plankton, due to ecosystem collapse mainly bc of overfishing theres not only not enough plankton anymore to stabilize the greenhouse gasses theres not even enough plankton to oxyhenate the water enough to support life in many areas of the ocean. These are called deadzones. People driving cars and not recycling is not a big issue, its crusie ships and chinese fisherman with nets the size of skyscrapers that they liter in the water when theyre done with it
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I am once again calling for letters of marque against chinx fishing fleets.
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if the government announced that the solution to climate change is privateering rightoids would change their tune about it real quick
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Really? But I really love seafood
and am totally up for a cruise trip 
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instead of buying it at the store/order it at a restraunt, catch your own seafood. Average people fishing isnt the proboem, its commercial fishing. A far as crusies, just fly to the tropical location and go on a normal sized boat for tour sea adventure.
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Fish eat plankton, what are you talking about?
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Not it!
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me grifting to the hot world ppl to overthrow the government and give me power to rule the world through a homofascistic dictatorship (the only way to stop hot world melting is to stop allowing straightanist s*x so xeir body warmth stops plaguing the atmosphere):
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Maybe tell the 3rd worlders to not shit out billions of kids and less of them will die 🤷♀️
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Live on warm beachfront property on Mt Everest
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Everestcels will always lose to Antarctichads.
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Good thing America has Boston dynamics machine gun dogs we can deploy to the border
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It's the 2/3 that never
birthed a nobel price winner.
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the guys with the lowest number of gold medals
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this inspired me to look up the weather averages in cape town
https://weatherspark.com/y/82961/Average-Weather-in-Cape-Town-Western-Cape-South-Africa-Year-Round
it actually seems pretty great. If only moving there were still an option
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I asked him about his experiences in the field seeing
and he didn't even respond to me. 
I bet if I asked our
like 
@timmy_blueballs 
@Sasanka_of_Gauda 
@cyberdick they would answer me. How often do you guys see cobras and Russell's vipers etc? Do you have any fun stories to share? 
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I once petted a rat snake one of the fathers at my school had caught from the computer lab and had wrapped around his arm. And I almost stepped on some snake once in the village, there was a powercut. Only realised from the slithering sound that there was something where I was about to step, switched on mobile torch to see it slither away.
Also topical
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When I was a lil guy my mom would find me playing with garter snakes (harmless) in the garden but I don't think I ever just frickin bit em. Was your near miss experience with a venomous species or was it too dark to confirm?
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Too dark to confirm, probably a pond snake that had come out for some reason since I've never seen any other type in my father's village. Its fairly densely habited place, venomous ones get killed on sight I think. My father saw some, one time their house was flooded and they came back to a russel's viper comfortably nestled in their clothes shelf. A distant aunt married this guy who used to live in the Sunderban forest, mangroves famous for the royal bengal tiger. On her first or second night there she was trying to set up the mosquito net and instead of the rope she grabbed a king cobra that had been comfily sleeping up there
Didn't bite her somehow but she threw a fit after that and forced her husband to relocate to the city.
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King cobras are actually quite intelligent and amongst the least defensive species of venomous
as far as I know. True cobras are comparatively kinda dumb and act on pure instinct which is why they 
so much and also why you can "charm" them by keeping their focus on movement.
Great anecdotes though. I knew you guys would deliver for me.
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I used to see cobras pretty often at our family house as it was close to a forest. One experience burned into my brain was when i was playing with firecrakers I was throwing them inside a pile of granite rocks as they made different sounds from the inside the pile, one cracker failed to explode and being the
that I was I wanted to get it back from under the rocks so I topped some from above and BAM 
the cobra stood up in all its glory. I almost pissed my pants and ran for like 500ms until i calmed down
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I'm glad you're ok, pal. That's a fun anecdote.
I assume you mean spectacled cobras?
If
@kaamrev had stories like that I wish he would share them. 
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standard indian cobra
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In English we usually call the standard Indian cobras spectacled because they have the two dots on the back that look like eyes.
Also to differentiate between the one-dot monocled cobras also found in South Asia. 
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Kaamrev always shares his stories, but you exiled him from /h/dioceseofdrama and he's very sensible.
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I posted on his wall inviting him back if he'd either stop trolling or at least wait to find times when it was a funny one.
He told me to frick off.
Most young people in the US are atheist, it's not like I'm terribly sensitive about it. I just ask they give me some effort or have a sense of humor when they do it if they can't be polite.
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Lmao, this reminded me of time where my mom yelled "THERE'S A SNAKE IN THE HOUSE!". I came running to the living room and it turned out it was just a longass jumping worm.
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Do you see many fer de lance (I forget which bothrops species are endemic to which ranges) or SA rattlesnakes? Have you ever gone into the Amazon? I know bushmasters are comparatively rather rare but my impression is that you'll see lanceheads kinda all over the place down there.
Give me a ping on the 
because I want to get to know what kinds of snake experiences you've had in your lives. 
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I never saw a snake outside a zoo.
I made a stop in the Manaus airport for refueling while on a flight between Bogota and São Paulo, outside that no, I've never been to the Amazon and I live thousands of kilometers away from the rainforest.
!macacos o Corinthiano quer saber se vocês já viram alguma cobra.
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I didn't know the Portuguese word for snake is just cobra. They had interacted with em
before traveling out of the continent so I'm curious why that is? In Anglosphere Bibles the traditional default word for venomous snake was asp/adder and that could refer to a number of species. !linguistics
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In the Portuguese Bible it is called "serpente" or "serpent".
I have no idea why the generic term is "cobra" though.
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There was a small one in my backyard a few years ago! !macacos
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Trans lives matter
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Só a nas minhas calças
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É muito grande?
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Não
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the odds of meeting a
that has personally gone into the amazon is very slim
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Even on vacation? I didn't think you guys lived in the jungle or whatever.
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It's not a place for vacation lol, most !macacos go to the beach for that. Manaus is supposedly very pretty but outside deep in the forest is pretty dangerous (not just because of the animals and mosquitoes, there are illegal gold mines and wood traffickers there). The transamazonic road is awful so if you wanna tourist then you gotta board a boat, not very charming when you think about it, especially when you can chill out at the coast.
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Naw man, the north is getting more tourists with every passing day.
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I'm the kind of weirdo who would go to a jungle on vacation.
Especially now, having been acclimatized to humidity living over here for a while.
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nobody goes into the amazon for vacations
Brazilians in general love beaches (and bitches
) so the coastal areas get even more crowded during the summer
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Neighbor I live there frick u
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Yeah, even in the cities every now and then an anaconda shows up. Because I'm rich I've always lived in tall buildings so I've never found one at home, but I've found (small to medium) them at friends house, a bench in the part, at university, etc.
https://globoplay.globo.com/v/12407191/
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Chill out in my now Mediterranean climate
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Are you writing fiction now?
Snapshots:
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I wish.
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bet everything on the lottershe and use the dramacoin to buy my way into the schizocel bunker obviously
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is it though...or is it red dye 40 and flouride...just sayin...
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pictured: Toothless Gang Male feminist #4
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jewish lives matter
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These people dont realize that if we "go green" then also we wont be able to feed third worlders with food donations in the trillions right
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zoz
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Good lol I hope everyone who dies from this has dark skin
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the volcano gods are ANGRY
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someone should have told her chudjak is a joke
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who cares, there would still be billions of people
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Keep letting the muslims and jews bomb each other every hour, surely that will help reduce carbon emissions.
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yes, cause a dead muslim/jew produces almost 0 further CO2.
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maintain humanity under
500,000,000 in perpetual balance 
with nature 
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I guess predicting the Second Coming was getting old
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