EFFORTPOST Newlywed car salesman and his stunning wife have found themselves in 120'000 of consumer debt

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4dSOaZgBVBY

Jessilyn, 21 :marseychonkerfoid:

Brandon, 32 :chudjakbaldspin:

Springfield MO

There's a pretty good chance I've gotten some of this wrong, there were a lot of numbers getting thrown around.

Husband self-rates: 2-3/10

Wife self-rates: 3/10

!straggots This is our fate

!incels How are you even real :marseyxd:

!biofoids :marseysmug2::marseyawesomeface::marseylaugh::marseylaughpoundfist::marseyemojirofl:

Career:

Jessilyn: Stay-at-home mom

  • Doordash and uber as side-hustles (about 400 a week after gas)

    • Only done these for 2 months so far, started because slow season for car sales right before taxes were due (end of Feb)
  • "We're financially illiterate. I'd say I'm financially inexperienced, almost too"

Brandon: Car Salesman

  • All commission based, 49'918 ytd (did 117k pre-tax last year)

    • Minimum wage or commission based whichever is greater? 277 hours a month?

    • About 30% for taxes

    • Only brought home 4'200 pre-tax in March?

      • Best months were Jan/Feb, all downhill from here?
  • End of 2022 "economy just kinda shit the bed" so sales are down

Personal Life:

  • "We met selling cars and then I got pregnant then we started dating" :marseyxd:

    • Stopped selling cars in the summer because she didn't want to deal with the heat on car lot both fat and pregnant?

    • "Kind of a dumb decision looking back because they had 6 weeks of maternity leave and they offered to move me to a different position that was hourly based inside"

    • "From my understanding they will not hire her back because we're married"

  • started dating last Spring

  • moved into apartment last May

  • "over the last month and a half we've moved out of our apartment so we're kinda like in a position too where there's not a whole lot of space to be able to keep stuff"

  • Jessilyn is still on the mother's insurance

  • Building a new house that was supposed to be ready middle of May?

    • It sounds like they're renting it?

Saving/Debt/Expenses:

  • "I got denied for Paypal crediting like where they finance your things" :marseyxd:

  • Got most of these cards in June? Not sure I heard that right

  • "Yeah, the ones I sent you were all the really bad ones"

    • not sure what she means by that?
  • Got a car in April "probably spent way too much money" :marseyxd:

    • "60'000 dollar car"

      • Still owe 57'891

      • Might be worth upper 40s, low 50s?

    • 2022 Grand Cherokee

    • Got some percentage off since he's an employee

    • 4.24%, was offered 3.29% but took that to go out an extra year in term to get the payment below $1000 a month

    • 920 minimum payment

    • He tries to convince them to sell this one timestamp

  • Husband's car:

    • 2018 Kia Stinger

    • $26'850 owed, 11.51% interest

    • 525 minimum payment

  • $330 for car insurance that covers both

  • Loan to pay off delivery

    • 30k bill on the delivery, still owe 1668? Another 1800 sitting off loan because insurance may/may not cover it?

      • Projected 150 minimum payment, less if it's only the 1668
  • Card 1:

    • 2917.43

      • 29 minimum payment (they made $43 in purchases on this card this month :marseyxd:)

      • Interest free until December

      • Lots of recurring subscriptions through apple, they've since canceled them?

  • Chase (Card 2):

    • "The baby one:

    • 455/500 balance -> made 0 payments -> 523.60 :marseyretard:

    • $80 minimum payment

  • Citi (Card 3):

    • 4752 -> no payment and $258 purchases -> $5039

    • Had paid 300 off of it to get it down to 4752 prior "And that's so sad" timestamp

    • She put multiple Afterpays on here :marseyxd:

      • One was lunch. She afterpaid her lunch :marseyxd:
    • $29 late fee

      • "The way I see it is it's not all the way 30 days past due because my breaking point is if it hits my credit you kn-" timestamp
  • Bluecash Everyday Amex (Card 4):

    • 826 -> -$60 payment, +$192 new transactions -> $961.36/$1000

    • Minimum $40, interest free

    • "We actually had that paid off the beginning of February" - :chudjakbaldspin:

    • At 857 because she made just a payment on it

  • "I actually got one [credit card] sent to me in the mail the other day and I was like I don't need another one" timestamp

  • "My thought process, hear me out, was that my utilization right now is probably like 94, 96 percent and that's godawful don't get me wrong but if I open another credit card technically it would exp-"

    • "I don't give a shit"
  • Discover (Card 5):

    • $3453 -> -$94 payment, +$155 new transactions, +$83 interest, +$30 fees -> $3627

    • $134 minimum payment

  • [indecipherable] Bank (Card 6):

    • "Furniture loan"

    • $2534, 0% interest for another year or two?

    • Minimum payment $150

  • Apple (Card 7):

    • $7'988/$8000

    • 255 minimum payment, 29.4% interest ($171 interest)

  • "I have 3 Affirm loans"

    • "Big one that we've had since September of last year"

      • $400 minimum payment, almost paid off, $671 remaining

      • Financed their wedding rings

      • "Only reason we did it was it was 0%"

    • "Two amazon purchases"

      • "Both like a hundred dollars so they're each like-"

      • $53 left on one

      • $120 on the other

  • Self-told history of her financial life

  • Phones are financed

  • iPad is financed (they bought an iPad for the baby?)

  • Her apple watch is financed

  • Child support

    • "That comes out of his paychecks out of the gross percentage"
  • Brandon 17000 in retirement

  • Jessilyn "I don't have a retirement"

    • "I also have like a cash value life insurance policy my mom's been paying in since I was a baby. It's cash value is only 1700 dollars though"
  • $50 in their savings 2000 -> 50?

    • Getting ready to move into a new place, most of that went to deposit
  • $300 in checking?

  • She is one of the only people on earth still subscribed to SiriusXM

    • 110 yearly
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>All commission based, 49'918 ytd (did 117k pre-tax last year)

I never thought it paid that well. Are they independent contractors / no benefit jobs or something?

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You should see the finance office guys lol

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The last two years have potentially been the best time ever for car dealerships: limited inventory, consumers loaded with cash and wanting big cars with high margins. R-slurs were going in and buying F-250s with $1,000 down, $20,000 over MSRP, 72 month financing

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Glassdoor says 80k is around normal :marseyregular: for a Missouri car salesman but I don't recall him mentioning contracting/benefits at all

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Production issues the last couple years have meant dealers can slap massive commissions on anything

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