EFFORTPOST :marseychonkerfoid: The eternal foid, incarnation of Tumblr, arrives on the show

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_igA09ES95Y

Some of this probably inaccurate. I had a hard time following what she was saying through the tears, not actually sure if she's a tumblrina, just guessing from behavior patterns and age :marseyautism:

Cia, Oklahoma, 29

Personal Life:

  • Found Caleb through TikTok

  • Was in a dual income situation but spouse is currently leaving her? They were both going to be on the show?

    • Brushed over at the beginning of the show
  • Since 2017, in 2019 grandma passed, she goes to North Carolina where her tribe is "Eastern Band Cherokee Indians"

    • Met cousins also in "table games" at the funeral
  • Mother is Comanche

  • Moved into grandma's old house when covid hit?

    • Timeline is a little weird here

    • Was also paying father $500 a month

  • Other grandma gets sick, also died, she found out at beginning of 2021 died early 2023

    • She came back to Oklahoma for her?
  • "So basically I've been just surviving since then, I started table games jobs when I wasn't in the right mindset" timestamp

    • "So basically what you're seeing right now I'm getting out of the depression"

    • Not sure what this even means

  • "Everyone views me as the parent" :marseythinkorino:

  • Gets tribal benefits if she's in North Carolina?

  • Household income

    • She works from Jan - early Aug at other table games job

    • Husband has been getting around 1800 on his checks

  • "You guys were going to come on, what happened between your application and no-[ad break]" post-ad timestamp

    • Major waterworks here, avoid if you don't like seeing people crying

    • Not going to take notes on segment but it's beat for beat a Boogie diatribe -

      • everyone's using her

      • she's the nicest person around

      • her soon-to-be ex-husband is immature and didn't reciprocate emotional support

      • muh therapy

    • Close-up interjection from cell phone-cam Caleb timestamp

      • "blah blah blah, only one side of the story try not to be judgemental"

      • "A couple days after the episode she sent them an email saying we are in the wrong, me and my team, that we are against her, that we are the evil ones and we hope for her to not succeed essentially"

      • :marseyxd#:

    • She and her ex will be co-tackling debt before separating with dual income :marseythinkorino:

  • Diabetic, lost weight on ozambiec?

Career:

  • "Table Games" (Casino)

    • Blackjack dealer

    • 13/hr base, just started, 7 and a half hours a day

    • Worked at this position before asa supervisor, made 13.30 + tips (rare)?

    • 1950/month? maybe?

  • Also gets tribal gibs, 20k last year but varies depending on casino preformance

Financials:

  • Has a house, that's paid off

  • $33'000, bought ten years ago, in Oklahoma

  • Gets tribe gibs twice a year, varies depending on how casino is doing.

    • 20'000 last year, lower this year

    • June and December

  • Car Loan $17,657 timestamp

    • 18% interest

    • $414 minimum payment

    • "That's uh... That was like I need to get out of the house"

    • "It's my car"

    • Chevy Spark

    • "So basically when my grandma passed away I was going to take over payments on the car which was like six hundred something"

      • "This car?"

        • "Not this car, it was like a Honda er uh Honda Accord hybrid but then my mom she wouldn't let it go so then I wanted to at least pay that six hundred try to maybe refinance it but then she let it go and that got repossessed and in the midst I'm like I need to start getting out of the house I need to start getting ready to get a job"
    • Mentioned later that both of their names are on both car loans

Car Loan 2 $32'776 timestamp

  • Chevy Colarado 2021

  • 813 minimum payment

  • 11% interest

  • Newegg $1'600 (I'm not sure) timestamp

    • "Cozy games"

      • "Like Stardew Valley, you know"

      • "Well I also like Borderlands too"

    • Bought a pre-built for 1'307.99 timestamp for thing showing

      • 35.98% interest rate

      • Currently owes 1'600

      • Has paid $154.44 so far?

        • $120 payment later mentioned through Affirm? I don't understand this
      • 787.22 minimum monthly payment? :marseyxd:

      • Husband was the one that ordered it but it's hers?

      • Caleb mutters the specs under his breath timestamp

        • "Six core CPU"

        • 16 gigs RAM 3600 DDR4

        • 1 TB SSD

        • Nvidia 3060

  • Home security (in collections)

    • was not in a good area, now in a better area

    • Didn't pay this because [storytime] timestamp

  • Credit card 1 timestamp

    • Pays this off

      • "That was just for one month, I was working really hard"
    • "My grandma when she passed away I got money, I got some insurance money so I've been that's how I've been surviving is her money"

      • $30'000, has 10'000 left
    • Balance is back with a vengance, now

      • waterworks are back "every day I was like taking like edibiles and like high edibles and I was gaming" blah blah blah more boogie bullshit

      • "It's like almost maxed out"

        • It's not, it's $990 out of $1'800
    • $20 monthly payment, 28.24%

    • Buys streamer merch, some woman pronounced "Payton" who streams on Youtube?

      • I couldn't find her, just got football videos
  • "Super Secret Debt" timestamp

    • About $3'000

    • Not on a payment plan, a couple years old

    • Something about someone needing documents but she never gave them the information :marseythinkorino:

  • iPad $500

    • 0% interest?

    • $55 a month?

    • additional $30 a month for phone bill

  • Student loans $5'000

    • Federal
  • Chime checking account balance -$84 => 0

  • Retirement Account - $436

  • Canceled subscriptions - Manta, AMC, Crunchyroll

  • Has not cancelled - Hulu

  • No savings

  • Allegedly $800 a year in property taxes

  • Doesn't have home insurance

  • Caleb claims to be on a diet :marseysurejan:

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How do you fail as an american indian? You get free gibs from having a monopoly on casinos and get to claim to be one of the most oppressed groups when it comes to DEI.

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Kids who are born and raised on the rez barely stand a chance. Substance abuse and domestic violence are endemic, most of them are far from urban centers, and there's a cultural distrust of outsiders. It's probably one of the shittiest situations someone can be born into in the west next to being an eastern euro romani slumdweller. Even when they're not born with FAS and their parents want them to succeed, natives on most reservations have next to no actual tangible people modeling healthy relationships and careers nor peers to encourage them to succeed.

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Makes sense. If everyone around you is a failure it's hard to pull yourself out of the situation even if you have other significant advantages.

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It's probably the reason why most current race and class-based interventions fail; by the time you're actually trying to help them, they've completely adapted to their shitty surroundings even if they don't have a huge cognitive deficit because of their prenatal and natal environment. You see it with affirmative action programs where children of wealthy africans outcompete 'foundational black people', the disparity of outcomes for wealthy vs. non-wealthy children in SSA countries, and the disparity of outcomes for MENA immigrants in north america vs. europe. The die was cast in early childhood at latest; there's virtually nothing that can undo the dysfunction children in certain types of poverty are brought up in and the prenatal environment they initially developed in probably screwed them to begin with.

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So what is the solution? The only 3 options I can think of are status quo and just hope they get better over time, forced assimilation into some more productive culture, or purge. Probably why nothing changes tbh lol there is no 'good' solution.

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Aside from extremely authoritarian measures or post-war II-tier social and economic conditions, I have no clue. I've been wondering if anyone has done a study on the outcomes of descendants of hoovertown residents for this reason -- what were the characteristics and environmental conditions of the descendants that succeeded and failed?

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All of those are fascist.

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You can kinda see in this video. This woman is a huge liar, but the parts about her fellow tribeswomen being jealous of her gibs and trying to parasite off of her are probably true.

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This is why the reservations were unironically a terrible idea. They started out as a way to move indians out of areas white people wanted, then morphed into this weird "we're helping them by letting them keep a sliver of sovereignty" shit. I unironically think their lives would improve if we eliminated the reservations and brought them into the fold like we did with countless immigration groups. All the special treatment and gibs just enables this terrible situation to continue forever.

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Add in the welfare money they get and it's easy to give up on life and just bum around

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Fricking Thomas Jefferson called it for what it was 200 years ago.

The aboriginal inhabitants of these countries I have regarded with the commiseration their history inspires. Endowed with the faculties and the rights of men, breathing an ardent love of liberty and independence, and occupying a country which left them no desire but to be undisturbed, the stream of overflowing population from other regions directed itself on these shores; without power to divert or habits to contend against it, they have been overwhelmed by the current or driven before it; now reduced within limits too narrow for the hunter's state, humanity enjoins us to teach them agriculture and the domestic arts; to encourage them to that industry which alone can enable them to maintain their place in existence and to prepare them in time for that state of society which to bodily comforts adds the improvement of the mind and morals. We have therefore liberally furnished them with the implements of husbandry and household use; we have placed among them instructors in the arts of first necessity, and they are covered with the aegis of the law against aggressors from among ourselves.

But the endeavors to enlighten them on the fate which awaits their present course of life, to induce them to exercise their reason, follow its dictates, and change their pursuits with the change of circumstances have powerful obstacles to encounter; they are combated by the habits of their bodies, prejudices of their minds, ignorance, pride, and the influence of interested and crafty individuals among them who feel themselves something in the present order of things and fear to become nothing in any other. These persons inculcate a sanctimonious reverence for the customs of their ancestors; that whatsoever they did must be done through all time; that reason is a false guide, and to advance under its counsel in their physical, moral, or political condition is perilous innovation; that their duty is to remain as their Creator made them, ignorance being safety and knowledge full of danger; in short, my friends, among them also is seen the action and counteraction of good sense and of bigotry; they too have their antiphilosophists who find an interest in keeping things in their present state, who dread reformation, and exert all their faculties to maintain the ascendancy of habit over the duty of improving our reason and obeying its mandates.

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@Gibberish I get that Snally would see it but you?

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:marsey#disconcerting:

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Did you at least read Jefferson's quote fully? Thoughts? I just want something

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It's a decent quote but I've never been to a reservation or met anyone from one so I don't know anything beyond some crime stats. :marseyshrug: Reading the rest of that Inaugural Address just shows how far standards for federal office have fallen. :marseydepressed:

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I love how UBI advocates will just pretend the tribes with payouts don't exist

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UBI is great because it allows failures to fail even harder and much more pathetically :taylaugh:

UBI is great for dramacoin.

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generational trauma is keeping her down

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