EFFORTPOST Pathetic druggie WoW player and his schizo-mother-healer-wife who sees dead people on the verge of divorce snipe at each other for an hour

Athena, 32

Carter, 25

Oklahoma

Personal Life/Career:

  • 3 kids, she had 1 prior to the marriage with another man?

    • 3, 4, and 8

    • 8 year old lives with her father in Florida right now

  • "Tensions are high" pre-filming timestamp

    • Immediate jump into maritial issue kino

    • She sees herself as saving the two of them financially and considering divorce if he doesn't get himself together

    • She's sober 9 years, very into AA, was in military

    • He was sober for a year, met when he was 2 weeks sober :marseyxd:

    • "He's strictly a drug addict" timestamp

      • Is he off drugs?

        • He says "Yeah" she says "No" at the same time :marseyxd:

        • Clarifies that he messes around with psychedelics, she clarifies wit story time about finding him "dead on the floor" four years ago timestamp

        • Mentions missed the birth of his third child because he'd smoked too much weed and had a stomach ache :marseyxd:

          • Hard cut into caleb's grift shilling :marseyemojirofl:
      • Current drug use deets timestamp

        • Mostly Kratom, Weed - "Could be Jamba Juice for a week but nothing's gonna stop him"

        • Some psychedelics too?

      • How he relapsed 4 years ago timestamp

        • She bought a bottle of alcohol to help with an ear infection, someone else suggested this?

          • He chugged it and mixed some opiates
      • She does "hape"

        • "unprocessed tobacco, ash, and different plants from the Amazon Jungle"

        • Both do this but "it's not the same"

        • She works for some Jungle Tribe? She's been there and made it with them? She's "one of their guardians in the world" and distributes it? timestamp

        • Mentions having a stroke where everyone told her she was going to die

          • Brought up again later, says she fixed this "by going into [her] own body" timestamp
    • Had a huge fight two days ago, juicy deets timestamp

      • "I've never smoked crack"

        • "No he smoked Heroin" I think she said heroin the shit getting censored out is annoying. He claims he stopped at 22
      • "I know that if I die tomorrow and there is 500'000 dollars because of my life insurance that I pay I don't trust him with the kids and making the right decisions" timestamp

      • Is it true that he doesn't love her like he used to? timestamp

        • "Doesn't show it like he used to"

        • "Together all the time"

        • He wants to play video games

      • Had a cry a couple weeks ago and took some psychedelics to figure his life out timestmap

        • "2CB" not sure if I heard this right I don't know drugs

        • Decided he needs to not quit his vidya because he will resent her for that?

      • Have they seen a therapist together? timestamp

        • She says - She has tried for years but he doesn't want someone to tell him he's wrong

        • He says - can't afford a babysitter? Too expensive

          • They had 7 cancellations for babysitters but finally got one so they could come on this show?
        • Bickering about money timestamp

          • "oh but we have money for World of Warcraft, we have money for stupid shit like-"

          • "-like massages for my wife"

          • "No okay we're going to go into this because he won't let it go"

          • Combined finances "but he just spends"

Finances:

  • self-score timestmap

    • Aborted initially to discuss their impending divorce

    • Actual self-score timestamp

      • she says 3 and he says 1

      • he said 7 before but then he watched a couple episodes

      • Mentions that he "adds debt and she doesn't see it" timestamp

        • "I don't even add debt though you can go through and see it"
  • Spent 8'000 to move to Oklahoma timestamp

    • 2 and a half months ago

    • Bickering about who wanted to move

    • He had a 20 hour trip fried his brain and they moved to Oklahoma instead to get a job with his father?

    • She's made $2'000 in May, usually $1'500

      • She "does healing" for the moment - with the magic tobacco?

      • Not setting anything aside for taxes, can't afford to?

    • He makes 2'600 a month (3'000 before taxes)

    • She had a hair license in CA, did not transfer to OK but would have with Florida?

  • She filed for bankruptcy at some point after her stroke? timestamp

    • beginning of 2023?

    • She paid off most of his debt, put things into her name before bankruptcy?

      • had plans to make more money in CA bigger hair salon
    • She had a "successful business"

    • Landlord said he "doesn't work with women" and had serious issues with the building she was in?

    • She usually makes about $100 an hour, 15 hours a week

  • Can their family help out? timestamp

    • His father just had a baby
  • Why not move to Florida? tiemstamp

    • he says moving costs

    • she says relapse

      • she moved out at some point?
  • Combined finances stuff, she took over handling them when she had the stroke, then she took them back after a little but timestamp

    • Total disarray while he was in control

    • Mentions "deferred interest" for paypal, Best Buy

      • "and she says why didn't I pay more than the minimum and I'm like we have no money to pay more than the minimum"

      • "Every time we do have money he thinks it's like okay we can go out and eat we can go get on my red bulls oh not red bulls umm [indescipherable spanish name] every single day"

      • Mentions that she quit her Starbies habit

      • "Like we would have assistance for food and he would spend a lot of that on energy drinks"

  • Credit Card 1 (City Diamond) ($1687) timestamp

    • Minimum payment $56

    • New purchases $43.90

    • $39 interest accrued

    • Lots of Amazon, Apple in-app, Chick-fil-a

      • Apple music?

      • Might be the extra cloud storage for her phone?

      • Some amazon ad-free thing?

    • "We don't go to Chick-fil-a any more"

      • "That's literally the most recent statement!"
  • Credit Card 2 (Discover) (7'000) timestamp

    • Had it paid off but then it wasn't

    • LA apartment was infested with cockroaches deemed unlivable

      • "When we came back from a healing convention-"

      • Some excuses?

    • 2238 new purchases

    • 142 minimum payment

    • 113 interest charged

    • Fair bit of eating out on here, some amazons

    • Salon statements timestamp

      • this is where she buys things and resells them
  • Car 2020 Kai Telluride ($33'400) timestamp

    • Old car got totalled, he got smashed into and pushed into a semi

    • "actually we got a really great deal on it" :marseyxd:

      • She's actually convinced she got a good deal. It's unreal she actually bought hook line and sinker and won't accept she got taken for a ride. Born mark.
    • 72 months, 12% interest?

    • 2021

    • $739 minimum payment

    • good condition but a few scratches in the front, might be small issues inside from kids

    • Something weird where they need checks in paper or they take the interest out of it? Didn't catch this

    • Underwater by $8'000

  • Upped her life insurance? timestamp

  • She mentions that she is a vegan timestamp

  • Jungle Story timestamp

    • Went last year

    • "How'd you afford to go to the jungle?"

      • "Credit cards"
  • $78 on some credit card timestamp

    • World of Warcraft - it auto-renewed without him knowing?

    • pays 6 months

    • He played until 2:30 am yesterday night :marseygamer:

  • "I have a gift" "I am not of this earth I am in human form" timestamp

    • White woman nonsense about restoring the rain forest

    • I see dead people now I don't choose to see it

    • "You don't see them they pass you a message and you give it to the person and they heal I charge $111 for what I do it's not fake"

      • "Trust me I didn't say you couldn't make money off of that" :marseyxd:
    • "Fine, tell me something about my self" timestamp

      • it doesn't work like that :marseyxd:

      • "It's only when I do hape my higher self will talk to your higher self"

    • Producer Noah will be doing hape in the post-show? I refuse to paypig so no idea how this went

  • Credit Card 4 (Priceline) ($91) timestamp

    • A few Amazon purchases

      • She doesn't think they've made any purchases this month?
    • Some movie rent/buying

    • Father of her first child would not let her control the finances timestamp

      • He was breadwinner in that relationship?

      • She shows some sort of organization of her expenses?

      • "Every month I go can we sit down and he hates it" :marseyxd:

      • "He literally became a man when he met me becau-"

  • Credit Card 5 (Best Buy) (1'883) timestamp

    • "Somebody broke his headphones!" :marseyxd:

    • Food, TV, headphones, iPad repair

    • $348 in new purchases

    • $29 in payments

    • $17 interest accrued

    • Based karen moment fighting the employee on the screen protector timestamp

  • She's been applying to jobs timestamp

    • Only applied to 5 so far, can only work evenings and wants specific jobs? May or may not be getting a job with Texas Roadhouse
  • Credit Card 6 (2'442) timestamp

    • $81 minimum payment

    • $72 in new purchases

    • $82 paid

    • $6 interest accrued

    • interest only just started on this

  • Owes money to his grand mother timestamp

    • She will just send money sometimes to bail them out? Separately from that she lent them a lot?

    • already paid back a lot but still owe 4'000 that she wants to

    • Something about taking in some guy from Turkey but booted him "released him with love" timestamp

      • They have a phoneline that he is paying off?
  • She is concerned with the welfare of the plant, she decides "it's dying" timestamp

    • It's not dying.
  • She gets really ill if she drinks starbucks "since the stroke"

  • $1000 on a mattress remaining

    • they partially paid $2000
  • MetaZoo timestamp

    • Spent thousands of dollars on it? irl card game?

    • This what they spent their covid bucks on?

    • They tried to be scalpers during the covid bubble they are so fricking stupid it's unreal

    • they think the kickstarter box is worth $1000?

  • Caleb presses them on whether they've taken responsiblity for anything ever timestamp

Pie chart timestamp

She's getting 20% disabled for VA ($338) timestamp

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