EFFORTPOST Pathetic druggie WoW player and his schizo-mother-healer-wife who sees dead people on the verge of divorce snipe at each other for an hour

Athena, 32

Carter, 25

Oklahoma

Personal Life/Career:

• 3 kids, she had 1 prior to the marriage with another man?

  • 3, 4, and 8

  • 8 year old lives with her father in Florida right now

• "Tensions are high" pre-filming timestamp

  • Immediate jump into maritial issue kino

  • She sees herself as saving the two of them financially and considering divorce if he doesn't get himself together

  • She's sober 9 years, very into AA, was in military

  • He was sober for a year, met when he was 2 weeks sober

  • "He's strictly a drug addict" timestamp

    • Is he off drugs?

      • He says "Yeah" she says "No" at the same time

      • Clarifies that he messes around with psychedelics, she clarifies wit story time about finding him "dead on the floor" four years ago timestamp

      • Mentions missed the birth of his third child because he'd smoked too much weed and had a stomach ache

        • Hard cut into caleb's grift shilling

    • Current drug use deets timestamp

      • Mostly Kratom, Weed - "Could be Jamba Juice for a week but nothing's gonna stop him"

      • Some psychedelics too?

    • How he relapsed 4 years ago timestamp

      • She bought a bottle of alcohol to help with an ear infection, someone else suggested this?

        • He chugged it and mixed some opiates

    • She does "hape"

      • "unprocessed tobacco, ash, and different plants from the Amazon Jungle"

      • Both do this but "it's not the same"

      • She works for some Jungle Tribe? She's been there and made it with them? She's "one of their guardians in the world" and distributes it? timestamp

      • Mentions having a stroke where everyone told her she was going to die

        • Brought up again later, says she fixed this "by going into [her] own body" timestamp

  • Had a huge fight two days ago, juicy deets timestamp

    • "I've never smoked crack"

      • "No he smoked Heroin" I think she said heroin the shit getting censored out is annoying. He claims he stopped at 22

    • "I know that if I die tomorrow and there is 500'000 dollars because of my life insurance that I pay I don't trust him with the kids and making the right decisions" timestamp

    • Is it true that he doesn't love her like he used to? timestamp

      • "Doesn't show it like he used to"

      • "Together all the time"

      • He wants to play video games

    • Had a cry a couple weeks ago and took some psychedelics to figure his life out timestmap

      • "2CB" not sure if I heard this right I don't know drugs

      • Decided he needs to not quit his vidya because he will resent her for that?

    • Have they seen a therapist together? timestamp

      • She says - She has tried for years but he doesn't want someone to tell him he's wrong

      • He says - can't afford a babysitter? Too expensive

        • They had 7 cancellations for babysitters but finally got one so they could come on this show?

      • Bickering about money timestamp

        • "oh but we have money for World of Warcraft, we have money for stupid shit like-"

        • "-like massages for my wife"

        • "No okay we're going to go into this because he won't let it go"

        • Combined finances "but he just spends"

Finances:

• self-score timestmap

  • Aborted initially to discuss their impending divorce

  • Actual self-score timestamp

    • she says 3 and he says 1

    • he said 7 before but then he watched a couple episodes

    • Mentions that he "adds debt and she doesn't see it" timestamp

      • "I don't even add debt though you can go through and see it"

• Spent 8'000 to move to Oklahoma timestamp

  • 2 and a half months ago

  • Bickering about who wanted to move

  • He had a 20 hour trip fried his brain and they moved to Oklahoma instead to get a job with his father?

  • She's made $2'000 in May, usually $1'500

    • She "does healing" for the moment - with the magic tobacco?

    • Not setting anything aside for taxes, can't afford to?

  • He makes 2'600 a month (3'000 before taxes)

  • She had a hair license in CA, did not transfer to OK but would have with Florida?

• She filed for bankruptcy at some point after her stroke? timestamp

  • beginning of 2023?

  • She paid off most of his debt, put things into her name before bankruptcy?

    • had plans to make more money in CA bigger hair salon

  • She had a "successful business"

  • Landlord said he "doesn't work with women" and had serious issues with the building she was in?

  • She usually makes about $100 an hour, 15 hours a week

• Can their family help out? timestamp

  • His father just had a baby

• Why not move to Florida? tiemstamp

  • he says moving costs

  • she says relapse

    • she moved out at some point?

• Combined finances stuff, she took over handling them when she had the stroke, then she took them back after a little but timestamp

  • Total disarray while he was in control

  • Mentions "deferred interest" for paypal, Best Buy

    • "and she says why didn't I pay more than the minimum and I'm like we have no money to pay more than the minimum"

    • "Every time we do have money he thinks it's like okay we can go out and eat we can go get on my red bulls oh not red bulls umm [indescipherable spanish name] every single day"

    • Mentions that she quit her Starbies habit

    • "Like we would have assistance for food and he would spend a lot of that on energy drinks"

• Credit Card 1 (City Diamond) ($1687) timestamp

  • Minimum payment $56

  • New purchases $43.90

  • $39 interest accrued

  • Lots of Amazon, Apple in-app, Chick-fil-a

    • Apple music?

    • Might be the extra cloud storage for her phone?

    • Some amazon ad-free thing?

  • "We don't go to Chick-fil-a any more"

    • "That's literally the most recent statement!"

• Credit Card 2 (Discover) (7'000) timestamp

  • Had it paid off but then it wasn't

  • LA apartment was infested with cockroaches deemed unlivable

    • "When we came back from a healing convention-"

    • Some excuses?

  • 2238 new purchases

  • 142 minimum payment

  • 113 interest charged

  • Fair bit of eating out on here, some amazons

  • Salon statements timestamp

    • this is where she buys things and resells them

• Car 2020 Kai Telluride ($33'400) timestamp

  • Old car got totalled, he got smashed into and pushed into a semi

  • "actually we got a really great deal on it"

    • She's actually convinced she got a good deal. It's unreal she actually bought hook line and sinker and won't accept she got taken for a ride. Born mark.

  • 72 months, 12% interest?

  • 2021

  • $739 minimum payment

  • good condition but a few scratches in the front, might be small issues inside from kids

  • Something weird where they need checks in paper or they take the interest out of it? Didn't catch this

  • Underwater by $8'000

• Upped her life insurance? timestamp

• She mentions that she is a vegan timestamp

• Jungle Story timestamp

  • Went last year

  • "How'd you afford to go to the jungle?"

    • "Credit cards"

• $78 on some credit card timestamp

  • World of Warcraft - it auto-renewed without him knowing?

  • pays 6 months

  • He played until 2:30 am yesterday night

• "I have a gift" "I am not of this earth I am in human form" timestamp

  • White woman nonsense about restoring the rain forest

  • I see dead people now I don't choose to see it

  • "You don't see them they pass you a message and you give it to the person and they heal I charge $111 for what I do it's not fake"

    • "Trust me I didn't say you couldn't make money off of that"

  • "Fine, tell me something about my self" timestamp

    • it doesn't work like that

    • "It's only when I do hape my higher self will talk to your higher self"

  • Producer Noah will be doing hape in the post-show? I refuse to paypig so no idea how this went

• Credit Card 4 (Priceline) ($91) timestamp

  • A few Amazon purchases

    • She doesn't think they've made any purchases this month?

  • Some movie rent/buying

  • Father of her first child would not let her control the finances timestamp

    • He was breadwinner in that relationship?

    • She shows some sort of organization of her expenses?

    • "Every month I go can we sit down and he hates it"

    • "He literally became a man when he met me becau-"

• Credit Card 5 (Best Buy) (1'883) timestamp

  • "Somebody broke his headphones!"

  • Food, TV, headphones, iPad repair

  • $348 in new purchases

  • $29 in payments

  • $17 interest accrued

  • Based karen moment fighting the employee on the screen protector timestamp

• She's been applying to jobs timestamp

  • Only applied to 5 so far, can only work evenings and wants specific jobs? May or may not be getting a job with Texas Roadhouse

• Credit Card 6 (2'442) timestamp

  • $81 minimum payment

  • $72 in new purchases

  • $82 paid

  • $6 interest accrued

  • interest only just started on this

• Owes money to his grand mother timestamp

  • She will just send money sometimes to bail them out? Separately from that she lent them a lot?

  • already paid back a lot but still owe 4'000 that she wants to

  • Something about taking in some guy from Turkey but booted him "released him with love" timestamp

    • They have a phoneline that he is paying off?

• She is concerned with the welfare of the plant, she decides "it's dying" timestamp

  • It's not dying.

• She gets really ill if she drinks starbucks "since the stroke"

• $1000 on a mattress remaining

  • they partially paid $2000

• MetaZoo timestamp

  • Spent thousands of dollars on it? irl card game?

  • This what they spent their covid bucks on?

  • They tried to be scalpers during the covid bubble they are so fricking stupid it's unreal

  • they think the kickstarter box is worth $1000?

• Caleb presses them on whether they've taken responsiblity for anything ever timestamp

Pie chart timestamp

She's getting 20% disabled for VA ($338) timestamp