Yeah, actually. It's been a pet cause for western libs and leftists + (very) far rightists for decades now, and it is was not particularly hard to sympathize with them given that they've been corralled into what is more or less an open-air prison.
Okay, snally. If Israel didn't control the Palestoids' borders, they'd be importing much more weapons and building materials for the next Intifada. Both sides claim ownership over the same land, and a two-state solution has been presented many times and basically rejected by both, so there's no reasonable way of excusing "how they live" as a justificiation for violence. The violence fundamentally rests upon a property rights dispute that cannot be resolved other than through violence. Even if the Palestinians' income per capita matched Israel's or was 2x higher, the violence would continue. It is the way of the state to monopolize the function of government over a region.
The happenings of yesterday might be a hint as to why they need to be in an 'open air prison', and why going forward, that prison needs to be hard enough to escape that they'll not even dream of freedom anymore.
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For mental consistency it should be. Hamas is the top elected party in Palestinian parliament and is a terrorist organization, therefore Palestine supporters are majority terrorists.
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They are, but I think most of them drank the koolaid that Hamas—and by association, most Palestinians—are this heckin wholesome bunch of freedom fighters trying to live in their Ottoman-conquest-given territory a few hundred years ago before the Brits conquested it from them ancestral homeland in peace and diversity and science for all.
The reality of the situation is being forcibly shown to them now. I doubt awareness will last very long, but for now it's there.
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Have you seen who is in the Israeli ruling coalition these days? Not much to gain by pointing fingers at each other's democratically elected terrorist psychos.
Oh Israel sucks butt, that's no joke. They have a couple of factors going for them:
The military of Israel is ultimately answers to the government and the state, unlike how the Palestinian troops are beholden to the Hamas Party and not to the Parliament of Palestine.
Even if the leadership of Israel are psychos, they have the veneer of being a functional state in control of its own military.
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Merry_Cismas 1yr ago#5129098
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Never did I ever expect to see Redditors of all people, in NYC of all subs, refuse to suck the terrorist cock when it pertains to Israel-Palestine relations.
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I'm unironically surprised that the indiscriminate r*pe and slaughter of civilians isn't being celebrated
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This but unironically unironically. I guess Palestine pissed away its goodwill
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Did it have much yo begin with
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iswas not particularly hard to sympathize with them given that they've been corralled into what is more or less an open-air prison.Jump in the discussion.
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every time they get out they prove why they belong in one
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The conditions they live in beget violence. If the Irish were driven to become terrorists then it could happen to any group of people.
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Okay, snally. If Israel didn't control the Palestoids' borders, they'd be importing much more weapons and building materials for the next Intifada. Both sides claim ownership over the same land, and a two-state solution has been presented many times and basically rejected by both, so there's no reasonable way of excusing "how they live" as a justificiation for violence. The violence fundamentally rests upon a property rights dispute that cannot be resolved other than through violence. Even if the Palestinians' income per capita matched Israel's or was 2x higher, the violence would continue. It is the way of the state to monopolize the function of government over a region.
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aren't the {{{hibernians}}} and palestoids great friends
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I've read that the IRA have been known to train ME terror cells but idk how many or how long that went on for
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The irish are the BIPOCs of the white race
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And then you realize they belong in a closed prison
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The happenings of yesterday might be a hint as to why they need to be in an 'open air prison', and why going forward, that prison needs to be hard enough to escape that they'll not even dream of freedom anymore.
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unironically unironically unironically unironically unironically unironically unironically unironically
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For mental consistency it should be. Hamas is the top elected party in Palestinian parliament and is a terrorist organization, therefore Palestine supporters are majority terrorists.
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They are, but I think most of them drank the koolaid that Hamas—and by association, most Palestinians—are this heckin wholesome bunch of freedom fighters trying to live in their
Ottoman-conquest-given territory a few hundred years ago before the Brits conquested it from themancestral homeland in peace and diversity and science for all.The reality of the situation is being forcibly shown to them now. I doubt awareness will last very long, but for now it's there.
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Have you seen who is in the Israeli ruling coalition these days? Not much to gain by pointing fingers at each other's democratically elected terrorist psychos.
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Oh Israel sucks butt, that's no joke. They have a couple of factors going for them:
The military of Israel is ultimately answers to the government and the state, unlike how the Palestinian troops are beholden to the Hamas Party and not to the Parliament of Palestine.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1730ba1/pro_palestine_protest_today
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Never did I ever expect to see Redditors of all people, in NYC of all subs, refuse to suck the terrorist cock when it pertains to Israel-Palestine relations.
Shani Louk will be avenged.
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Reddit is getting normified by the day. Capital R redditeurs are decreasing in numbers and influence
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Carp.....
Who is Shani Louk? Do you have a silly thread about it?
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