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The only fanfic I've read are the apocryphal works and they're quite blasphemous but also hilarious. I particularly recommend the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (which stole from when writing the Quran). Highlights include:
a child splashes a pool of water Child Jesus is playing in so Jesus drains all the fluid from the kids body
later another accidentally bumps into Child Jesus so he kills him on the spot
second 's parents complain to the Blessed Virgin so Jesus blinds them for their insolence (he later reverses all these, just some harmless childhood japes )
See also the Acts of Peter in which Simon Magus gets into a wizard battle with St. Peter and flies around in the sky before having his butt SMOTE through the power of prayer. This cripples Simon and then Peter takes him to a doctor who cuts his witch butt in half. !Christians!Catholics!bookworms
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It can be in your heart I don't think it contradicts anything dogmatic. I think the story goes differently in other Apocrypha but in that one it's a doctor who Simon.
Do you know where Gnostics and apparently some Muslims got the idea that Jesus actually avoided the crucifixion by doing a magic switcheroo and swapped bodies with some random guy in the crowd?
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Yes. To hold otherwise, the entire Christian tradition falls apart, as it was through this process that Christology was formed. I really dunno how you can believe in any of this and simultaneously hold that we should have allowed 2nd/3rd century fanfic writers to run around spreading ridiculous falsities and forming death cults (gnostics thought having children was evil and that death was good, etc). It also later gave rise to Islam as stated...
I think it's worth differentiating between the moral culpability of laity vs leadership, contemporaneous vs modern. I was talking to @seal_cel about this with regard to Rabbinic Judaism but same principle applies.
Jesus could rise again because he never died. Mary was crying at the base of the body double. Romans wouldn't really notice nor give a shit if it was some other Semite. It all makes sense....
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The only fanfic I've read are the apocryphal works and they're quite blasphemous but also hilarious. I particularly recommend the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (which stole from when writing the Quran). Highlights include:
a child splashes a pool of water Child Jesus is playing in so Jesus drains all the fluid from the kids body
later another accidentally bumps into Child Jesus so he kills him on the spot
second 's parents complain to the Blessed Virgin so Jesus blinds them for their insolence (he later reverses all these, just some harmless childhood japes )
See also the Acts of Peter in which Simon Magus gets into a wizard battle with St. Peter and flies around in the sky before having his butt SMOTE through the power of prayer. This cripples Simon and then Peter takes him to a doctor who cuts his witch butt in half. !Christians !Catholics !bookworms
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I thought St. Peter smiting Simon Magus was canon for some reason
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It can be in your heart I don't think it contradicts anything dogmatic. I think the story goes differently in other Apocrypha but in that one it's a doctor who Simon.
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Do you know where Gnostics and apparently some Muslims got the idea that Jesus actually avoided the crucifixion by doing a magic switcheroo and swapped bodies with some random guy in the crowd?
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Sure king. The oldest dated version of this story can be found in the early 3rd century Second Treatise of the Great Seth located in the Nag Hammadi library. It might predate this version, the exact origins are unclear as St. Augustine's works are the most complete accountings of the Manichaeans and similarly we know most of our info about the Gnostics from polemics written by the Church Fathers. !Catholics !Christians
I like reading about this stuff.
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do you think the early church was right to destroy heresies like gnosticism?
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Yes. To hold otherwise, the entire Christian tradition falls apart, as it was through this process that Christology was formed. I really dunno how you can believe in any of this and simultaneously hold that we should have allowed 2nd/3rd century fanfic writers to run around spreading ridiculous falsities and forming death cults (gnostics thought having children was evil and that death was good, etc). It also later gave rise to Islam as stated...
I think it's worth differentiating between the moral culpability of laity vs leadership, contemporaneous vs modern. I was talking to @seal_cel about this with regard to Rabbinic Judaism but same principle applies.
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!nooticers, this makes so much sense.
Jesus could rise again because he never died. Mary was crying at the base of the body double. Romans wouldn't really notice nor give a shit if it was some other Semite. It all makes sense....
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gnostics would fricking say that
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