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Pigeons intuitively solve the Monty Hall problem faster than humans do :marseybigbrain:

https://www.livescience.com/6150-pigeons-beat-humans-solving-monty-hall-problem.html
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The blogposters who came up with that title cannot actually appreciate why this is really interesting.

Here is the truly interesting bit:

Researchers find out that some abstract logic outcomes can be far more easily learned via direct result based experiences.

So in theory if you took two humans and had one do the puzzles repeatedly to get the most food and another human try to solve the monty hall problem theoretically, the human doing the puzzle physically would comprehend it faster.

and that is super cool. because it shows that experiencing physical reality is like a sort of shortcut to abstract reasoning for meat brains. Like someone throwing a ball at you and you catching it without really thinking about it instead of calculating the velocity and curvature of the balls movement.

There is complex knowledge so innate to us as building blocks that we do not even consider it knowledge in the way that we use the word knowledge, yet the pigeon who knows the solution to the Monty Hall problem is proof that math is just an abstract diagram of reality and that having the correct interacting nodes and hardware ( body/limbs/ memory/ experiences ) can as easily allow us to comprehend complex output as having the capacity to do the math for it in our heads.

This has fascinating philosophical implications - is the ability to raise your arm a form of intelligence, accounting for the fact that a machine arm would have to do hundreds to thousands of calculations to be able to do the same with the same finesse as a human meat controlled arm? If yes then does that make every human a living mathematical formula? Is that the real secret of reality and the universe? That everything is simply data interacting with one another and that all flesh and mass is just numbers joined together in such density as to develop into different types of matter with different names and properties assigned to it?

!philosophers !sophistry

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if you took two humans and had one do the puzzles repeatedly to get the most food and another human try to solve the monty hall problem theoretically, the human doing the puzzle physically would comprehend it faster.

This doesn't follow from the experiment that was performed.

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Why not?

A pigeon got the answer right doing the physical experiment more often than humans get it right doing it in their heads, so I assume it would hold for a human physically doing the experiment repeatedly getting it right more often than the person doing it in the abstract.

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The students in the study were tested repeatedly as well.

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Source? I missed it.

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On the other hand, 12 undergraduate student volunteers failed to adopt the best strategy with a similar apparatus, even after 200 trials of practice each.

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lol. Cucked by pigeons. This does then at least support the idea that different forms of intellect do indeed exist.

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If only you could put that energy into your relationships

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Practice makes permanentcels seething against the bull headed practice makes perfect chads

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What?

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ngmi

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What?

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Keep going, your practice will get you there little pigeon.

:#carpidgeylove::#carpidgeylove::#carpidgeylove:

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