EFFORTPOST The State of the Race! Who's winning? What's the issues?

Reading Rdrama, it's become pretty clear that this dump is a rightoid circlejerk that's blind to what's actually happening in America, and I want to just spread the knowledge :marseybow:.

The first thing to handle: Am I biased? No - I'm a European (:marseybong:) that's neurodivergentally into American Presidential Politics, especially the Cold War era (Franklin Roosevelt to H.W Bush), and I'd wager I know more about every era then most Americans here. Not saying that to brag, it's just autism.

So the next thing to handle - the state of the race. Which Dementia Daddy is winning? It started of with Trump fricking destroying Slumbering Joseph, who has been facing declining approval ratings ever since the fall of Kabul (:marseysigh: America hates to see an anti-war president). This is despite the fact that America does not like Trump. This is simply a fact, Americans have never liked Trump. He didn't win the popular vote against Hillary Clinton, herself massively unpopular, or Joe Biden.

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Let's compare starting approvals. Gallup gives W. Bush :marseybush: 57% approval at the start of his term, which skyrockets to 91% by 9/11 and ends at 28% when he leaves office. Obama :marseyobama: starts with 68%, getting a lowest approval rating of 42%. Even Sleepy Joe :marseybiden2: started with 55%. Donald Trump :marseyhitler:? He started with 45% approval. That would peak at 49%, and would average at 41%. Please, I implore you to forget that you're a rightoid and accept a basic fact - Trump is not personally liked by Americans. They think he's a loudmouth butthole who's attitude is unfit for office, and during his term 59% of the public didn't like him. So, a Sleepy Joe sweep, right?

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Biden started popular enough. He was basically an Obama third term, and Obama was massively popular. He was very old, the pic above is a newspaper reporting Nixon being re-elected while Biden unseats an incumbent, which was a concern, but people generally liked him.

That would change fairly swiftly. Inflation from the Covid spending :marseyballoon2:, under Trump lmao, caught up with America and inflation became rampant. Joe Biden had been elected on a promise of being a boring cracker who could let people forget about politics for a while, an elder statesman who would handle everything. He was already being blamed for the economy, but then there was the pull-out. Despite it being awesome, America finally stops wasting money on that shithole, Americans were horrified by the images it produced. His approval ratings sank like a rock and disapproval ratings soared. :marseystocksdown:

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The "Joe Biden is too old to lead" stuff went from a Republican talking point to basically accepted fact. The public was promised a boring statesman they could forget about it, and they're seeing global chaos and inflation - which has gotten back to decent rates, but since the only way prices will go down is through a recession, no one thinks it has. I mean yeah you have dipshit shooters like Will Stancil, but that's about it. So, Drumpf sweep right?

Yes and no. Despite Biden's massive unpopularity, the Red Wave promised for 2022 was barely a red drizzle - the Trump Republicans were so massively unpopular, the Democrats managed to narrowly expand a Senate majority, unseated 3 incumbent governors and Republicans only got 9 seats from the 435 seats up for election in 2022. The public hated Joe Biden, but the Democrats weren't unpopular. However, that doesn't change the fact that Joe Biden is unpopular.

Turns out deplatforming works, hooray! With Trump, he became less of a man and more of an idea. Yeah, Trump was an butthole - but prices were low and the world was at peace. (Incidentally, ask anyone who thinks this how exactly Trump will do this again and watch them not answer you.) America has always loved it's Dirty Harrys and Dr. Houses - take no shit buttholes who get results. Trump, away from the spotlight and with Biden viewed with contempt, was poised to crush Biden. That was until;

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Some rightoids have tried to spin this, arguing the public doesn't care that Trump paid hush money to his mistress. They're on the right line of thinking, but they're overestimating the public's knowledge. They don't know what Trump did, and they don't care. Trump went from butthole they don't like to Convicted Criminal(tm) - a massive step up. They have faith in the institutions, they think whatever the verdict is, it's fair, and while they could hold their nose to vote for the butthole that made prices low, they can't do it for a Convicted Criminal(tm).

Biden's popularity hasn't change. They still think he's a senile idiot that shouldn't be in office - but he's not a Convicted Criminal(tm). For contrast, NeoCon-Nikki Haley has pulled anything from 4% to 13% over Joe Biden. While the highest results were obvious bullshit, the pattern is there. If Biden didn't have to run against Trump, he would get his butt paddled.

So, two massively unpopular old men are running against each other. One is a criminal nobody has ever liked, the other is a senile r-slur. Who wins?

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Frick knows mate. Trump leads in some key swing states, like Arizona and Michigan, but his sheer unpopularity following the conviction has led to these being narrow leads. Worse still, the Biden Campaign has about $100 million more then the Trump Campaign, so some targeted ads could ruin Trump. If I had to goomble, and I do :marseygambling:, I would put money on Biden winning. The warchest advantage will be the difference maker, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump won.

Personally, I'm rooting for Biden winning while losing the popular vote :marseypipe:. I think the Rightoid outrage after 2016 would be funny.

Thanks for reading my longpost :marseyshy3: I promise there's no agenda :marseyblush:

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Meh its the Coca-Cola vs pepsi problem. If brand awareness were lower i would agree the conviction would make a difference but everyone has already picked a side. Now what matters is how likely they are to go out and vote.

The conviction pissed off Republicans. Thats motivation. I dont see anything quite the same on the other side. Biden refuses to really put his foot down on either side for gaza pissing off both sides in the process. Ive heard hard core democrats say that they wont vote biden.

!followers :marseywave2:

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How do you explain Biden's major lead after Trump was convicted?

Gaza is mostly irrelevant, it's only really affecting Michigan since that has a higher amount of Muslims. It's real affect is feeding into the idea that Biden is incompetent, since it's another major war dominating headlines after Biden promised to be forgettable and vanilla.

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How do you explain Biden's major lead after Trump was convicted?

I thought he only got a slight bump

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3% is pretty major when it comes to national politics

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Won't make up for everyone seeing DDD sundown on live TV during the debatea. Plus the economy is transitioning from inflation to a recession due to fed rate increase and quantitative tightening.

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You're assuming Trump will do well in the debates, and that Biden is actually senile. When the chips are down, Biden can talk - remember the State of the Union, or that press conference he gave when that report said he was actually senile? He's pulled it out of the hat.

By contrast, with the exception of the Republican Primary debates, Trump has always had his momentum halted by debates. It goes back to people just not liking him! The public thinks he's insufferable!

I think the debates will be a Biden win, honestly. And going by the way rightoid media personalities have been pushing "Biden will be on drugs during the debates!!!", they think so as well. But we could all be wrong, Biden is really old after all.

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Because polls arent real.

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The only time polls were inaccurate were in 2020, cuz of covid - and they were right Biden would win. The 2016 polls were perfectly accurate, they predicted that Clinton was more popular but lagging in the blue wall.

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I work for the dnc. This round is push polling to help sway public opinion. We try to tighten up to actuals closer to the race

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yeah for whatever reason people like voting for the winner, regardless of politics

people see someone up in polls and go "oh i should vote for that person"

literal :marseynpcsheep:

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There's no proof that's true. People could just as easily say "my candidate has a massive lead, so there's no need for me to show up"

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That's only if they're way ahead.

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There's no proof that's true

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The GOP do the same lol, that's why I posted an average poll that complies them.

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!r-slurs this one right here.

My point is nothing is real at this point

fake shit + fake shit = more fake shit

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My neighbor, every campaign for city council or podunk county tax assessor uses VAN. That inbox just means some campaign staffer who didn't want to draw the door knocking maps gave you access to the box of crayons.

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:marseymisinformation: worked for winning an argument on the internet

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The people who won't vote Biden bc of Gaza weren't going to vote anyway :marseyshrug:

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Disagree. This person was so fricking anti trump it was a problem in our relationship. Rabid shit.

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