Allan Lichtman must frick off

Holly Willoughby :heartbeat: This will be a quick post about the absolute lolcow that is Allan Lichtman and how he horribly misjudged the 2024 US elections. I'm too tired to bother with headings and sheeit.

Allan Lichtman is an American historian and political analyst, best known for his development of the "Keys to the White House" model which he uses to predict the next US president. He has been correct 9 out of 11 times prior to 2024, and his model is regarded as very accurate. His method is based on a set of 13 true/false statements, or "keys," which take into account factors like the economy, the incumbent party's record, social unrest, and foreign policy issues. According to Lichtman, if six or more of these keys are false, the incumbent party is likely to lose the election; if fewer than six are false, the incumbent party is likely to win.

Prior to the 2024 elections he went on several talk shows bragging about his model and how confident he was that Kamala Harris was going to win. He gave Kamala Harris 9 out of the 13 keys to the White House.

Many people made fun of Allan Lichtman for being so confident, including Nate Silver. However, this did not dissuade Lichtman from sticking to his model.

Rightfully, folks are making fun of him for getting the prediction so wrong.

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Here he is admitting he was wrong. What a cuck! He says he's going to take some time off to figure out why he was wrong :soycry: :marseycrying: :marseycry2:

No more Allan Lichtman! Hand over the keys!


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The Keys are fine lol

1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.

  • False

2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.

  • True

  • False/Not Applicable (rigged)

3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.

  • False

4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.

  • True

  • False (Maga is a 3rd party that cucked republicans then cucked democrats)

5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.

  • True

  • False (vibes are important here)

6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.

  • True (i guess?)

7. Policy change: The incumbent administration affects major changes in national policy.

  • True

8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.

  • True

  • False

9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.

  • True

  • False (skipped primary, pretended biden was fine, more)

10. Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.

11. Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

  • False

12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.

  • False (based on the time she did try to run and accounts for the fake hype)

13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.

  • True

  • False (w rizz)

2 out of 13

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So the real problem is the keys are subjective and have to be retconned to fit after each election


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yeah people were already pointing out pre-election he doubled back on biden winning because he said they'd lose if biden dropped out and then doubled down saying kamala would win lol

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found this post https://old.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1ecdc51/lichtmans_current_standing_of_the_13_keys_harris/lezif3d/?context=8

I don't normally throw around my CV, because I think it is cringy as frick when people start flaunting their degrees, but... I have a masters in political science. From Canada, mind you, but I've done my share of United States civics over the course of that degree and am familiar with statistical models that come out of American quantitative research firms.

If your argument is just birthed out of the sake of "the Thirteen Keys is interesting for poll junkies, and that makes it relevant to this subreddit," then fine, whatever. I do take some issue with you saying this though:

it is interesting to follow the tension between the keys and other models.

It seems to insinuate that 'The Keys' qualifies as a model, and I really, really don't think it does. To elucidate that claim, I want to cite a previous comment I made on this subreddit not too long ago:

Look, what I'm trying to get at is that the 13 Keys is interesting, but political scientists often use it as an example of poor heuristic analysis. That's actually where I first heard of it, about a decade ago, was when I took a US civics course in university.

The professor handed out a printout of the 13 keys with a short description of what each key was and made us all come up with our own predictions. The short of it was that everyone had different ideas on which keys were locked or unlocked, and what it really showed was the bias of the person who did the analysis.

Lichtman's success comes down to the fact that most of the time, it is pretty evident who is going to win, sometimes he fudges the definition of what a successful guess was, and, like Paul the Octopus, some of it is just pure luck.

The reason this is the case is because many of the Keys lack distinctive qualifiers that determine whether or not the keys are "locked" or "unlocked" this is further demonstrated by the fact that we don't know what the model predicts until Lichtman announces what the model says. That is, the model's output is entirely contingent on one man's interpretation of the categories he has arbitrarily declared.

You might be inclined to say that 538 or Nate Silver have similar issues in that we must go to their website(s) to see the results of their models, but in principle, if their models were not proprietary, but rather, open source, we would be able to plug in the polling data and extrapolate the same results they came up with. We cannot say the same for the "official" results of the Thirteen Keys.

In short, 538, Nate Silver, the Economist, and RCP have something we can call a model because it is impartial and produces consistent outputs based on the inputs. The Thirteen Keys is more akin to an essay that one history professor puts out every four years that has the same categories of analysis every time. They really aren't that comparable.

That said, this is all just of my gripes with the Thirteen Keys, and if it is in the interest of the subreddit to have Thirteen Keys content, then so be it. I just wanted to throw my opinion out there.

So basically he's saying what you are, but IMO Lichtman's own answers to the keys were just flat wrong for some of them (if mine differed i crossed out his)

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I'm not reading all that but I'm sure it's wrong

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:marseyxd: bussy-boy stealing longpostbot's job

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:marseysnappyautismpat: :marseywagie: :marseywhirlyhat:

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I have a masters in political science

Yawn. I guess slightly more credible than a PhD in History though

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He doesn't have the faintest idea how to turn the keys

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PlsRope

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