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Redditors talk about how Nato could totally frick up Russia without the backing of the USA
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Ukřаínе оwns mоřе ļеораřd tаnks thаn gеřmаnу аnd mоdеřn gеřmаn tесh thаt gеřmаnу dоеsnt еvеn оwns
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The UK is downsizing to only 216 tanks(that's all they can afford)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_British_Army
France, which thinks it's hot shit, only has 64 Caesar artillery pieces. They've also redesigned they're whole army to use these fancy mraps. No tracked ifvs like the bradley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_French_Army
The only brightspot is Poland who have bought thousands of US and Korean tanks, ifvs, and artillery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces
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This kind response is always hilarious:
That always act like sending some military equipment indicates a willingness to fight.
Followed up with:
OH WOW THEY'RE SERIOUS NOW
Also, this was the next line of the second comment:
Nothing, they gave away all their supply stock.
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Russia was exposed as a fraud this war, I do think the euros could march till Moscow easily if no nukes are involved. The Russian Air force is inferior to the euros and air superiority is king.
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This is a common consensus among everyone but third worlders
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The euros air forces aren't superior enough to make a difference. Euros have zero capability to dominate contested air space against a peer adversary. But the real problem is their ground armies are basically non-existent after being left to atrophy since the fall of the USSR. Do you honestly think the people of Germany or France will go die in a trench on the eastern front? Lol. Lmao even.
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Russians couldn't even achieve air superiority over Ukraine with their S-300s and soviet era rustbuckets in the beginning of the SMO, plus their avionics are at best a generation behind NATO. Even if you give them 20 years worth of progress in avionics and airframes they won't be able to field an Air force equal to the Europeans since their electronics industry is more than 2 decades behind the west. They now cope with chucking bombs and cruise missiles with the precision of an alcoholic monkey throwing axes.
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Where's the lie?
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