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rosinbasedwave they/them 4d ago (reddit.com) 215 thread views #343485 earned 104 coins from votes

Redditors talk about how Nato could totally frick up Russia without the backing of the USA

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FFeconoboxofmisery they/them 4d ago #7812614

Russia was exposed as a fraud this war, I do think the euros could march till Moscow easily if no nukes are involved. The Russian Air force is inferior to the euros and air superiority is king. :marseythinkorino:

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vegan_doggy_bottom they/them FFeconoboxofmisery 3d ago #7813260

The euros air forces aren't superior enough to make a difference. Euros have zero capability to dominate contested air space against a peer adversary. But the real problem is their ground armies are basically non-existent after being left to atrophy since the fall of the USSR. Do you honestly think the people of Germany or France will go die in a trench on the eastern front? Lol. Lmao even.

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FFeconoboxofmisery they/them vegan_doggy_bottom 3d ago #7813968

Russians couldn't even achieve air superiority over Ukraine with their S-300s and soviet era rustbuckets in the beginning of the SMO, plus their avionics are at best a generation behind NATO. Even if you give them 20 years worth of progress in avionics and airframes they won't be able to field an Air force equal to the Europeans since their electronics industry is more than 2 decades behind the west. They now cope with chucking bombs and cruise missiles with the precision of an alcoholic monkey throwing axes.