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Redactor0 naori/oppa Darklands shill, do not engage  1yr ago (jpost.com) 95 thread views #254818

Fingerpointing at Unit 8200 (Israel's NSA) over Oct 7

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-791923

Unit 8200 does their SIGINT collection (listening in on phone calls). They've been very effective in the past, so Israelis put a lot of faith in them. Obviously something went terribly wrong leading up to Oct 7, but was it their fault? Unit 8200 collects raw intelligence but then they send it to the analysts to make sense of it.

Of course it's hard to know wtf happened when so much is classified but I don't see why Unit 8200 is getting so much blame. The analysts definitely screwed up really bad at interpreting the intelligence given to them so I'm not sure if 8200 giving them more would have helped. And I doubt they could have been that helpful since Hamas wasn't so stupid that they were talking about their attack plans on cell phones. What about all the other intelligence sources? Why didn't Shin Bet bring in more human intelligence? Why didn't anyone notice the training camps where Hamas was rehearsing in plain view?

Beyond that, this wasn't just an intelligence failure. A few hundred guys were left on the Gaza border to defend against 30,000 Hamas. The IDF wildly overestimated the ability of their own forces and the wall.

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>The "Spotters", known as tatzpitaniyot, are female members of the IDF who observe the barriers along the border and activate complex technological systems to prevent the enemy from penetrating into Israel. Their responsibilities have been described as a "difficult, cognitively and emotionally demanding job that entails hours of closely monitoring surveillance cameras

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>And I doubt they could have been that helpful since Hamas wasn't so stupid that they were talking about their attack plans on cell phones.

:#marseyhmmhips:

Hamas wouldn't admit it to not look stupid and neither would the Israeli government to not look incompetent (or worse) but everyone knows it's true (I wasn't even aware of this possibility until 2 minutes ago)

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They just use an app with E2EE like Signal probably, or utilize a code, or any of the other gorillion ways rats scurry out of sight

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:#marseyisrael: :#marseysquint: What's that

:#donkeykongsquawks: :#marseyeaglerider: :#marseybird:

:#marseyjewish: Nothing to worry about. The palesneedians are just having some fun on their paragliders.

:#marseyfacepalm: Fr no cap how?

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Why didn't anyone notice the training camps where Hamas was rehearsing in plain view?

It was known but mistaken for posturing.

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Exactly. The intelligence collectors were out collecting but it all got misinterpreted.

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More like it got yihiyeh beseder'd tbh.

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Remember the Six-Day War? Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.

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