Hello, I recently became aware of some information and I'm going to share it.

It started when I saw this article about the pier that the US recently constructed in Israel in order to "bring aid" to Gaza

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/first-images-american-taxpayers-350-million-completed-gaza-pier

So I asked: why is America doing this?

And I got this answer: "Saudi Arabia and Israel are building a canal to replace the suez. This will let work crews and material land and start construction."

Wow, that's weird. I hadn't heard of this. Could this be true?

Google 'saudi arabia, india, suez replacement'

The first result is this: https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/The-Egyptian-authority-the-Saudi-Indian-corridor-will-not-replace-the-Suez-Canal/

>"There are no alternative routes to the Suez Canal." This was stated by the president of the Egyptian Suez Canal Authority, Admiral Osama Rabie, during a television broadcast.

That's weird, why would he say that?

Rabie was commenting on the Saudi-India Economic Corridor project, part of an agreement reached between Saudi Arabia and India on the sidelines of the summit of G20 in New Delhi.

What?

So the G20 summit was in India, and during this time Saudi Arabia and India made an agreement for an economic project.

Wait a second, when was this?

Early September...

And the Palestinian attack happened in early October.

So this meeting happened one month before the Palestinian attack on Israel. That's fricking weird.

Here's an article that fills in a lot of the details

https://www.eurasiareview.com/17112023-the-ben-gurion-canal-israels-potential-revolutionary-alternative-to-suez-analysis/

tldr: The Suez canal is controlled by Egypt, which is an ally of BRIC's.

Building an alternative would massively frick over Russia and China .. And also Egypt ( sorry @Aevann )

Anyways: on to Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is in the process of building a brand new futuristic city. They're calling it NEOM or some shit like that

https://www.neom.com/en-us/about

WHAT DOES NEOM MEAN?

The name NEOM is derived from two words. Envisioned by His Royal Highness Mohammed bin Salman, Crown Prince and Chairman of the NEOM Company Board of Directors, the first three letters come from the Ancient Greek prefix neo – meaning 'new'. The 'M' is the first from 'Mustaqbal', an Arabic word meaning 'future'. The M is also the first letter of the Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman.

Okay, cool.

Here's another article

https://www.deccanherald.com/world/all-you-need-to-know-about-neom-saudis-futuristic-desert-city-3017231

Okay, so in order to build NEOM, SA is forcibly evicting people from their land and shooting people who resist.

Where is NEOM?

Huh.

ANYWAYS so back to the beginning.

Remember that big fricking dock we just built in Gaza?

It's rated so that we can basically unload whatever the frick we want on it. Meaning, construction equipment and materials.

So remember that article about the Ben Gurion canal that Israel has been wanting to build for forever?

That had a picture in it

ayyy lmao, that runs up and carefully around Gaza

You know what would be even better? If it went right the frick through it.

lol.

lmao, even.

I made up the dock placement, but you get the point.

It doesn't fricking matter where they put it, it's in gaza and they're unloading shit with it.

Also, this is why they're starving and forcibly relocating people in Gaza right now.

To make way for the Canal.

If this project comes to fruition it is going to circumvent the Suez canal, and by extension, BRICS.

Completely kneecapping China and Russia economically.

This will likely lead to World War 3.

Oh, but first we have to fricking get rid of Palestine.

Good thing they're all fricking starving or whatever and getting forcibly relocated, idk. Aid dock, more like AIDS dock.

Also, if it wasn't completely clear already - There were rumors that the Israeli government had been warned in advance of the 10/6 attack and didn't stop it.

Well, now you know why. Trying to coerce these motherlovers to get out of the way would have been nearly impossible and also VERY EXPENSIVE.

There is no way in heck that the Palestinian government would have just let Israel buy up land and move people to build this thing.

And even if they did, the international community wouldn't have allowed it.

Now that there's a fricking war going on, Israel can just fricking level everything and turn all of the Palestinians into Refugees instead.

Anyone who doesn't make way for Suez Canal 2.0 is getting shot the frick up.

The people in the way? Gone.

The buildings in the way? Also gone.

@Aevann effort post me plz, thank you

p.s. if you still don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. well idk what to tell you.

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!palestine

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!commies

!palestine

Phew. We've made a sizeable dent in the reports, so I'll reopen this.

But first, let me explain a few things here.

• We really don't need to be going down the path of whether or not Hamas is a "legitimate terrorist organization." This is a question no one here is going to be able to answer, and it's just gonna go around in circles with everyone yelling at each other. It's not a competition to deterimine which side is "worse." As the prophet dril once said, "you do not...gotta hand it to [Hamas]." As evidenced by a lot of posts in this thread and elsewhere on the site, nuance is hard, and if you gotta cape for one shitty organization in order to justify your position, maybe rethink how you're going about this discussion.

• I don't know if you all have noticed, but the Israel/Palestine conflict is the biggest and most complicated event that has occurred during the life of this site. It's a conflict that people have been discussing for decades. We aren't gonna solve this here. We're all also not a bunch of foreign policy experts that have knowledge of every event that has happened leading up to this. So some people are going to come in with incomplete information - if you choose to inform them of something, feel free! Just maybe don't jump to "oh you support Hamas" or "oh you support genocide" as your initial reaction. If someone is JAQing off, then report it and we'll take care of it. The best we can hope for is that some users come out of this more educated on all of it than they were at first.

• There's clearly a massacre going on from the hands of the Israeli government/military. There was clearly a horrible attack by Hamas on 10/7. There are clearly people who support either side. There are conflicted people deciding how to reconcile preexisting beliefs with new information. Despite all of this, there is no excuse for antisemitism or islamophobia from anyone. Straight out. To that point though, criticizing the Israeli govt/military for their actions is not antisemitism, and criticizing Hamas for their actions is not Islamophobia. This should be a pretty simple concept, and while there are obviously bad actors out there trying to co-opt one side for their own bigotry (like far-right shitheads who actively hate Jews choosing to side with the pro-Palestinians in order to sow chaos), I think we can have a discussion here without having to go down that road. Obviously we'll be on the lookout for anyone doing that, but that's a very minor piece of what we deal with regarding this discussion.

• For those of you talking about us trying to stifle dissent towards Biden/Democrats, please. Feel free. I assume you're referring to us taking action against posts saying "Genocide Joe," which isn't due to the words themselves or the actions Biden is taking, it's to stop you all from boiling down whatever your thoughts are into some inflammatory, pithy nickname. Yeah, this site may lean more left than a lot of other large forums, but it's still a mix of moderates, liberals, progressives, and leftists, all of whom are primarily here to talk about video games. There's a perfectly reasonable discussion to be had regarding voting, and some people are viewing it from a "what if Trump wins" lens, and others are viewing it from a "I can't support Biden due to Gaza, etc." lens. The biggest rule we really have here, and honestly the base rule that affects a lot of other rules, is this: "don't be an butthole." If you can't get your point across without completely dismissing someone else (and to that point, if someone else is being an butthole, then...report them. It's that simple), you don't have to click the "Post" button.

Holy shit

Cool, but given that literally zero of the explanations provided in the post above can be applied at all to the specific ban of Nola (or Richter, among others) which was the cause of all of the moderation complain in the last few pages, I hope you don't mind but I'm going to read this as "nothing is changing, everyone in this thread needs to continue to carefully navigate unknown double standards".

Also I am personally curious how there are so many user reports in this thread that require lockdown to even handle, specially when the last 3-4 pages were focused on moderation criticism. Is it possible one or more individuals gaming the report system to try to get certain minorities/political ideologies banned from the forum? Impossible to know.

Anyway this is my last post on this derail (until the next ban). Back to the topic on hand.

You pressed the report button, we came.

I do not agree with this interpretation of events. There is a large difference between "wishing to shape every thread on biden/the election around not mentioning [I/P]" and not wanting literally all US politics threads to be derailed into "Genocide Joe" drive bys. We should be able to discuss student loan forgiveness, domestic policy, trans and LGBTQ issues in general, judicial appointees, etc. without having I/P dominate all talk.

No, I don't want any genocides. If the subject of a thread is contributing to or will contribute to a genocide, it should be fair game. For example, Trump's genocidal trans policies should be fair game in any thread about Trump. Nobody should be told that they can only discuss trans genocide in appropriate threads.

I don't have a genocide hierarchy. I want Trump to lose the election and I don't want trans people to experience genocide either. Why did you think I had a genocide hierarchy? How would you feel if trans genocide topics were contained in a single thread?

that's one too many

Imagine if Biden's positions were reversed. He is fantastic when it comes to Palestine (much better than Trump), but was just as bad as Trump when it came to genocidal trans policies.

Would you be happy to have a single thread to discuss the trans genocide? How would you feel if you watched people cheering on student loan relief being done by a guy contributing to the genocide of trans people?

it's this, combined with

• "greatest president of our lifetime"

• the absolutely heinous false dichotomy of framing concern over horrific mass executions with our tax dollars being a "privileged" stance, or worse yet pitted against the legislative erasure & genocide of trans folks, etc. you get told your solidarity and humanity/understanding of our connections to these people and actions are bad faith, led by bad actors, making you a "useful idiot" whose calls to stop the weapon shipments equate support for trump

• the go-to condescension of "trump would make this worse" with no explanation of how that could be, no concern for the bloodshed of the last 7 months

• endless bemoaning of the discomfort of genocide "infecting every thread" - a not-so-quiet get back to your corner demand, often knowing full well elements of moderation will back that call - only to see mass reporting done here

all this done in service of a fervent zionist who quite clearly had no red line. the DNC sees the writing on the wall with the swing state protest votes, with the student encampments & growing demos - they're not pushing to move things online for no reason. he could stop this, but chooses not to - and so many liberals feel their energy is better used online preemptively vote shaming and finger-wagging at folks rather than joining the multitude of efforts to do what we were told would happen after he took power years ago: hold this admin accountable, push him left etc.

guess which "side" of this horror is expected to walk tightropes and abide this week's new restrictions, or be browbeat into silence? we could fill a page with all the folks threadbanned/perm'd from here for besmirching biden, the NYT etc, yet apparently none of that is worth addressing

Tons more like this in the thread. video games?

RFK Jr. was on Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast this week, which I skipped because I can't stand that old cute twink's voice. But apparently he wants to annihilate all sandBIPOCs or something to that effect, so naturally there are subhumans flocking to the comments to seethe.

I wish his bookworms would eat the AIPAC talking points, he could be a good candidate otherwise.

u/william930 is a 12 year old account whose posting activity since Oct 7 is 83% sandsneed. He has also never posted or commented in the MSSP subreddit until this post. Very organic!

He just took his peepee out and done a big piss all over his credibility with his Israel shit.

Credibility is when you agree with me.

It's a shame how they sucked his nuts so hard during it specially when he was saying all this BS about the genocide in Gaza and Zionist propaganda, I mean Shane pushed for a second but then let him go on this crazy rant and I'm more disappointed in Matt cause i heard him in older podcasts talks about how Israel is an ethno state and an apartheid state but here he seems to kiss this guy butt in a ridiculous way

This cute twink, u/Gullible-Cell2329, then went on to make a seethe post that got jannied, lmao

Truly just such brazen, flagrant propaganda... Like, the kind of stuff any serious Israeli scholar/historian would never even say. Absolutely maddening to see it spewed here, where it will now fester in the minds of millions of reasonable but impressionable people not particularly familiar with the conflict.

I mean. If this is your problem with the podcast this one is just the tip of the iceberg. They've said some uninformed wild shit about any number of subjects. It's part of the appeal.

Yeah I mean I don't really care when they say wild shit

>absolutely maddening

>I don't really care

RFK is so bad on Palestine

>moderator of r/antizionist

lmao

Anyways, Gaza must be destroyed.

October 7th was the end.

Seeing progressives treat rape as a valid political tactic and turn literal terrorists slaughtering civilians into the Real Victims™ made it crystal clear I was standing beside actually evil people.

I’m done. Any decent person should be done too.

— Brianna Wu (@BriannaWu) May 14, 2024

https://x.com/cityascanvass/status/1790055579144065358/photo/1

Nigerians react to this Holden Bloodlust (R) Iowa guy

or something

someone here is selling badly photoshopped fake california IDs while providing the commentary "Interesting" to stay on topic

Trump is Putin's puppet, and that's a good thing!

There's another page every time I refresh

• I don't have a position in this conflict but think pieces like this are always hilarious.

• Yeah I know it was co-written by Alan Dershowitz, which is low hanging fruit.

• Yeah I realize this is the New York Post.

https://old.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1cqf18c/good_question_mr_pedowitz/

thots?

We
Will
Dance
Again

— Israel ישראל (@Israel) May 11, 2024

Everyone chudding out in the replies

Hamas wouldn’t even rape these cows. https://t.co/kmtbIkL3VQ

— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) May 11, 2024