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White House unveils principles for Big Tech reform :marseybiden2::marseyobey:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/09/08/readout-of-white-house-listening-session-on-tech-platform-accountability

Orange site: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32771071

Although tech platforms can help keep us connected, create a vibrant marketplace of ideas, and open up new opportunities for bringing products and services to market, they can also divide us and wreak serious real-world harms. The rise of tech platforms has introduced new and difficult challenges, from the tragic acts of violence linked to toxic online cultures, to deteriorating mental health and wellbeing, to basic rights of Americans and communities worldwide suffering from the rise of tech platforms big and small.

Today, the White House convened a listening session with experts and practitioners on the harms that tech platforms cause and the need for greater accountability. In the meeting, experts and practitioners identified concerns in six key areas: competition; privacy; youth mental health; misinformation and disinformation; illegal and abusive conduct, including sexual exploitation; and algorithmic discrimination and lack of transparency.

One participant explained the effects of anti-competitive conduct by large platforms on small and mid-size businesses and entrepreneurs, including restrictions that large platforms place on how their products operate and potential innovation. Another participant highlighted that large platforms can use their market power to engage in rent-seeking, which can influence consumer prices.

Several participants raised concerns about the rampant collection of vast troves of personal data by tech platforms. Some experts tied this to problems of misinformation and disinformation on platforms, explaining that social media platforms maximize "user engagement" for profit by using personal data to display content tailored to keep users' attention---content that is often sensational, extreme, and polarizing. Other participants sounded the alarm about risks for reproductive rights and individual safety associated with companies collecting sensitive personal information, from where their users are physically located to their medical histories and choices. Another participant explained why mere self-help technological protections for privacy are insufficient. And participants highlighted the risks to public safety that can stem from information recommended by platforms that promotes radicalization, mobilization, and incitement to violence.

Multiple experts explained that technology now plays a central role in access to critical opportunities like job openings, home sales, and credit offers, but that too often companies' algorithms display these opportunities unequally or discriminatorily target some communities with predatory products. The experts also explained that that lack of transparency means that the algorithms cannot be scrutinized by anyone outside the platforms themselves, creating a barrier to meaningful accountability.

One expert explained the risks of social media use for the health and wellbeing of young people, explaining that while for some, technology provides benefits of social connection, there are also significant adverse clinical effects of prolonged social media use on many children and teens' mental health, as well as concerns about the amount of data collected from apps used by children, and the need for better guardrails to protect children's privacy and prevent addictive use and exposure to detrimental content. Experts also highlighted the magnitude of illegal and abusive conduct hosted or disseminated by platforms, but for which they are currently shielded from being held liable and lack adequate incentive to reasonably address, such as child sexual exploitation, cyberstalking, and the non-consensual distribution of intimate images of adults.

The White House officials closed the meeting by thanking the experts and practitioners for sharing their concerns. They explained that the Administration will continue to work to address the harms caused by a lack of sufficient accountability for technology platforms. They further stated that they will continue working with Congress and stakeholders to make bipartisan progress on these issues, and that President Biden has long called for fundamental legislative reforms to address these issues.

Attendees at today's meeting included:

  • Bruce Reed, Assistant to the President & Deputy Chief of Staff

  • Susan Rice, Assistant to the President & Domestic Policy Advisor

  • Brian Deese, Assistant to the President & National Economic Council Director

  • Louisa Terrell, Assistant to the President & Director of the Office of Legislative Affairs

  • Jennifer Klein, Deputy Assistant to the President & Director of the Gender Policy Council

  • Alondra Nelson, Deputy Assistant to the President & Head of the Office of Science and Technology Policy

  • Bharat Ramamurti, Deputy Assistant to the President & Deputy National Economic Council Director

  • Anne Neuberger, Deputy National Security Advisor for Cyber and Emerging Technology

  • Tarun Chhabra, Special Assistant to the President & Senior Director for Technology and National Security

  • Dr. Nusheen Ameenuddin, Chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Council on Communications and Media

  • Danielle Citron, Vice President, Cyber Civil Rights Initiative, and Jefferson Scholars Foundation Schenck Distinguished Professor in Law Caddell and Chapman Professor of Law, University of Virginia School of Law

  • Alexandra Reeve Givens, President and CEO, Center for Democracy and Technology

  • Damon Hewitt, President and Executive Director, Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law

  • Mitchell Baker, CEO of the Mozilla Corporation and Chairwoman of the Mozilla Foundation

  • Karl Racine, Attorney General for the District of Columbia

  • Patrick Spence, Chief Executive Officer, Sonos

Principles for Enhancing Competition and Tech Platform Accountability

With the event, the Biden-Harris Administration announced the following core principles for reform:

  1. Promote competition in the technology sector. The American information technology sector has long been an engine of innovation and growth, and the U.S. has led the world in the development of the Internet economy. Today, however, a small number of dominant Internet platforms use their power to exclude market entrants, to engage in rent-seeking, and to gather intimate personal information that they can use for their own advantage. We need clear rules of the road to ensure small and mid-size businesses and entrepreneurs can compete on a level playing field, which will promote innovation for American consumers and ensure continued U.S. leadership in global technology. We are encouraged to see bipartisan interest in Congress in passing legislation to address the power of tech platforms through antitrust legislation.

  2. Provide robust federal protections for Americans' privacy. There should be clear limits on the ability to collect, use, transfer, and maintain our personal data, including limits on targeted advertising. These limits should put the burden on platforms to minimize how much information they collect, rather than burdening Americans with reading fine print. We especially need strong protections for particularly sensitive data such as geolocation and health information, including information related to reproductive health. We are encouraged to see bipartisan interest in Congress in passing legislation to protect privacy.

  3. Protect our kids by putting in place even stronger privacy and online protections for them, including prioritizing safety by design standards and practices for online platforms, products, and services. Children, adolescents, and teens are especially vulnerable to harm. Platforms and other interactive digital service providers should be required to prioritize the safety and wellbeing of young people above profit and revenue in their product design, including by restricting excessive data collection and targeted advertising to young people.

  4. Remove special legal protections for large tech platforms. Tech platforms currently have special legal protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act that broadly shield them from liability even when they host or disseminate illegal, violent conduct or materials. The President has long called for fundamental reforms to Section 230.

  5. Increase transparency about platform's algorithms and content moderation decisions.  Despite their central role in American life, tech platforms are notoriously opaque. Their decisions about what content to display to a given user and when and how to remove content from their sites affect Americans' lives and American society in profound ways. However, platforms are failing to provide sufficient transparency to allow the public and researchers to understand how and why such decisions are made, their potential effects on users, and the very real dangers these decisions may pose.

  6. Stop discriminatory algorithmic decision-making. We need strong protections to ensure algorithms do not discriminate against protected groups, such as by failing to share key opportunities equally, by discriminatorily exposing vulnerable communities to risky products, or through persistent surveillance.

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I am going to start using the shit out of /h/chudrama entirely because of this. Eat shit Brandon.


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Stop discriminatory algorithmic decision-making

It's quotes like this that tell you it's a bunch of empty words rather than a plan. Just watch this go nowhere in 2 years.

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How dare you hide chuds to scream at from me.

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Remove special legal protections for large tech platforms. Tech platforms currently have special legal protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act that broadly shield them from liability even when they host or disseminate illegal, violent conduct or materials. The President has long called for fundamental reforms to Section 230.

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That’s it, the internet as we know it is over.

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It already was over. Everything fun has been replaced with advertising and social media.

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I just want to remind the Government’s of Russia and China that I have always been an admirer of Putin and President Xi. May rDrama’s tutelage under them be long and prosperous.

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:marseysaluteussr::marseyliondance:

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surely China and Russia will not try to exert influence on big sites hosted there :#marseyclueless:

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That's exactly what I said tho, there will be no big sites hosted there, only ones small enough to fly under the radar. It's perfect. Small forums survive, generational-mind-destroying social media doesn't

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the internet follows american laws :marseyretard3:

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cause we keep letting the government regulate speech yo

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they specify "large tech platforms" but don't go into detail about how they'd make sure this doesn't frick over smaller websites. Really makes you :marseywrongthonk:

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It was never about large tech platforms aside from legally compelling them to take down wrongthink even harder. It’s entirely to keep opposing platforms from rising.


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But they mentioned preventing sexual exploitation of minors. That'll be a good thing that will happen!

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it won't. people in power are pedos, and anyone who gets into power automatically becomes a p-do.

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Null has explicitly stated that Section 230 will be the thing that will finally bring the Farms down, Trump should have been the lolcow who successfully shut down the farms tho.

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What will happen to rdrama when they make clocking (misgendering) illegal?

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That would invalidate 1A and the American digital infrastructure would have long since gone up in flames from the conflict this immediately led to.


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you still think burgers would rise up for something? I've been so disillusioned, it's like some people are cheering this shit on

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Not usually, no, but repealing 1A would encompass freedom of religion as well. I don’t think burgers are remotely genuinely religious, but I do think that enough Southerner schismatics would kick it off over that.


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That's a good point, a lot of wars have started over religious drama. I can see that being what finally gets burgercels off the couch, bringing the militia LARP to irl shit

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Please :( I just want an excuse to fight and die in a holy war and we don’t seem to have any imminent desire to retake Constantinople

I need this


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you will never get to die in a righteous holy crusade sanctioned by God himself. Why even live…

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I’m holding out for a chance to take a shot at retconning Revelation and taking out the Antichrist myself :marseycrusader:


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>we don’t seem to have any imminent desire to retake Constantinople

Be the change you want to see, start the Knights Hospitaller Part 2 but instead of tending to the injured, work in psych wards and explain to schizos that we must drive the saracens out of the holy city posthaste

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Wouldn't this just result in a further push for countries to build their own internet?

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That has little to do with other countries.

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How so, if they pass laws that influence the entire internet structure and the internet is mostly American then wouldn't this law influence the entire world?

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This is an American law that would affect webhosts within American jurisdiction. It might motivate companies to relocate their servers to other countries, but it wouldn't require other countries to "build their own internet".

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thanks for clarifying,

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:#marseysickos2:

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Lmao this is what rightoids were trying to get DDR to do because muh deplatforming

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Watch the media be soft peepeeed about criticizing this because it's coming from blue team.

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This wont even be mentioned by the media because its only something termally online autismos care about

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The thing about child protection seems weird as well, I don't see how they'll achieve it without some sort of identify verification. Parent enabled child protection modes have been avaliable for a while so I doubt that's what they're talking about

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if you put your youtube into 'kids' mode nothing should be able to get into it that isn't vetted for kids. remember the weird af superhero & elsa shit youtubers were spamming into the kids section for monetized views? kids content should also not be monetizable by views.

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kids content should also not be monetizable by views

I never gave this point any thought, why the frick isn't it like that?

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Cause money

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>kids content should also not be monetizable by views.

That's literally how it's always worked. That's 100% why every thing from the Lone Ranger radio show to Howdy Doody to every Saturday morning cartoon exists at all. All that's just a means to get kids to see ads.

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and there are advertising laws for ads directed at kids. my bigger complaint though is shit content thats made explicitly to draw their attention.

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there are advertising laws for ads directed at kids.

Maybe for Bongs and shitty Bong adjacent places, but not anywhere that counts. Most places have fake butt industry-based voluntary regulatory bodies, like the MPAA setting movie ratings for example. The Children's TV Act, the closest thing in the US, basically stopped shit like GI Joe from having ads for GI Joe figures and non disclosed in-show ads. The content of ads wasn't affected.

And literally all kids programming of any medium is to draw their attention, that's the fricking point. So they can sell ads based on having someone's attention.

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All this means in these words is that large platforms like reddit and twitter will actually have to address their groomer and violent threat problem, it says nothing about wrong think. Platforms will still probably interpret it as meaning they have to remove anything vaguely problematic though, which is a way this could go wrong, but social media companies have never been good. Most users of this site probably only dislike this because Biden authorized it rather than Trump, and because of the Kiwifarms situation.

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>Remove special legal protections for large tech platforms. Tech platforms currently have special legal protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act that broadly shield them from liability even when they host or disseminate illegal, violent conduct or materials. The President has long called for fundamental reforms to Section 230.

Wasnt this a rightoid talking point?

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Rightoids can't decide if this is a good thing or a bad thing because it means alex jones can sue twitter but it also means schizos can sue their sites.

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Thas def a bad thing for rightoids

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Its a bad thing for the site owners like null who whine about it all the time. It's a good thing for posters because presumably the bigger sites are going to be more selective and careful about moderation

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I dunno if more moderation is a good thing for anybody. It's just gonna make existing moderation more insufferable.

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Its not more moderation though necessarily because theyre actually held accountable for the moderation decisions in either direction.

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So will we see an end to the Powerjanny-12 (PJ-12), yes or no?

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The left wants to sue platforms for not taking down inconvenient posts. In their preferred world, Keffals would be able to sue the NZ Ag. Soc. for keeping records of the catboy ranch.

The right wants to sue platforms for not being a neutral public square. In their preferred world, Trump would be able to sue Twitter for having had enough of his nonsense.

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Pretty much. The left sees 230 as a problem because it makes it legal to host wrongthink instead of forcing everyone into the expected circlejerk. The right hates 230 because in practice sites like Reddit are already partisan and so remove all rightoid content to force a circlejerk.

So the left hates 230's purpose, the right hates 230 in practice.

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but it's still going to happen because all that rich people care about is keeping the poors infighting. just don't be poor.

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People slowly finding out brandon is a rightoid and always has been

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The Senator from MBNA is a rightoid? Say it aint so!

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Its a uniparty talking point that was shoved onto a rightoid president because it was relevantly opportune time and now again to the puppet.

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Remove special legal protections for large tech platforms. Tech platforms currently have special legal protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act that broadly shield them from liability even when they host or disseminate illegal, violent conduct or materials. The President has long called for fundamental reforms to Section 230.

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Isn't this what trump was saying he would do and people were losing their minds?

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we just thought trump was doing it cause he got banned from twitter and was angy, but no they're just pushing for this unilaterally apparently

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we live in anti-centrist dramaphobic time bros... :marseycry::marseyscared:

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It’s high time to make a dramaphilic society where radical centrism is the core tenet of common law. Imagine a world where instead of posting online about insane drama, you will be able to convene with fellow dramatard neighbors over fences or at summertime barbecues where we can discuss online drama IRL without cringing to death because everyone has autism anyway and you won’t have to worry about an outsider being confused or judging you for talking about :marseytrain: drama 24/7.

Unfortunately, foids enjoy drama too much, and with having a bunch of smiling laughing women around, I just don’t see how this society could function.

:marseysigh: dramatopia forever 😔✊

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Good luck removing Section 230 and also keeping the social media landscape competitive when now have massive compliance costs associated with it in order to do due diligence regarding moderation.

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Oh I was mentioning potential extreme reportmaxxing. If Section 230 was repealed, I'd leave the internet apart from a few sites and touch grass, maybe start using the dark web.

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Imagine having to use the dark web to talk about obese youtubers. No idea how antibully culture has got this out of control, but the Supreme Court bullies need to step in here and bully some cute twinks better.


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