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threadThe CTO of Azure (microsoft garbage) considers C++ deprecated
Joining the club, along with Linus Torvalds. Cool stuff.
Who's gonna tell em? 
What the heck is up with the replies? It feels like the comment section of any Biden tweet except on the tech side - all the crazies come out.
I genuinely think Rust peeps should stay away from these threads. They're full of bad faith arguments, trolls and a lot of people with who you can't reason with in that format.
tfw Rust peeps can't come out of their shell
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Every day for Rust I've seen this kind of thing. Every fricking day, and yet people still eat it up. I work in C++ a lot and honestly learned to enjoy it, and I really have little interest in abandoning it. Yes, some if not quite a lot parts of C++ are shit, but because I can accept that many things in life will always have shit, and jumping ship over something being shit only lands me in a different kind of shit. Consider any of my following opinions just 
Rust is, in my opinion, not the ULTIMATE solution, it still has logic errors, it still has panics, it still has issues, it still has int overflows, it also has poor, slow (to compile) implementations (and little documentation on those specifications too, we're all stuck with Clang 
), and I'm still a heckin valid conservative on the idea of Third-party package managers.
Despite making up 99% of the software ecosystem, Memory errors make up 60% of all critical vulnerabilities (or some such or whatever etc rust good c and c++ super bad!!)
You want to know the best point that never gets brought up when people say shit like this? It's always the root cause of these memory issues. You know how much fricking C++ code exists out there that's literally just C-style C++ and full of legacy pointers with very little testing? Holy fricking shit, I mean, a good chunk of bad C++ memory errors are just caused by gross, underlying C libraries and fumbling of real pointers. C++cels have had plenty of debugging cowtools for decades now, like Valgrind 
and hundreds of cowtools std::rangeing (
) from smart pointers, std::span, RAII, std::variant, even fricking vectors and std::array with basic fricking overflow detection
please note my opinion is on C++ as a hobbyist language, I'm not 100% talking about C++ for BIPOCs: as for corposhits go I think Rust is a good thing. If someone's gonna shit out code I'd prefer it being working, safe code, and not horribly written C++. But it still won't stop "runtime" bugs and incorrect logic, which is always the cause of those sepples memory issues in the first place.
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Someone explain Rust to me. I work in Java
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Imagine a language where the primary audience is sexy Indian dudes and move that to corpslaves and trains.
But yeah Java is frickin dogshite idk how anyone can remotely like it lol
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In my opinion C is by far the best language. Anyone who disagrees is Jewish.
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C does a lot of things well that it's designed to do well. But when it comes to C strings and OOP concepts with things like games and GUI's, well, sometimes you just gotta push it to the side :^)
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It is my favorite programming language though
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Java pays the best for minimal effort
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I only program using manual 8 bit DIP switches
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Transgender autism applied to type systems and the C programming language
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As someone who has been coding C++ professionally for over a decade, your hobbyist opinion is 100% objectively correct. Literally everything you said is why I refuse to fall for the "Rust is gonna take over!" meme - it doesn't solve all the problems it claims to, it doesn't have a fraction of the ecosystem C++ does (especially in the embedded world), and modern C++ is a thousand times safer than old C/C++ if you know how to actually use the darn cowtools that exist.
Here's something fun for you: if you ever want to make Rustcels seethe, point out that thanks to the lack of a proper spec technically all Rust behavior is undefined behavior.
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I've only been working in C++ for only 3-4 years now, and I've done incredibly stupid shit in C out of curiousity and easily learned that C has it's flaws despite what the neurodivergents defend it as (it is a good breather language from C++ when I get tired of writing it). I've peeped several languages and I don't 100% have anything against Rust besides the community being r-slurred. It really does have a terrible spec behind it but this is so i've only heard (and peeped) and barely has other real implementations besides it's LLVM rustc stuff, it was one of those languages that decided to roll out as you built the spec, which is just a horrible idea in it's own. But nah, everyone keeps consisting "X language is DEAD!!!" and "Y language is DEAD!!!"; languages don't die and it was never a competition, for fricks sake even Java has the advantage that you can build on one system and still run pretty fast code on others without recompilation (true portability issues aside) alongside it's generally simple language structure with not much to remember.
And yeah, some parts of modern C++ are shit but I think C++20 is really the final pat on the back to keep up with all the new languages. C++ is surprisingly under-credited and hated, but the only statistic I'll point out is simply: Look at all the years and time people have spent trusting C++ to be reliable and writing fast and efficient code in it without any gimmicks (... and pretend that Boost never existed, just like JQuery was to JS), even if Rust is truly better, C++ has just proven that it'll survive while still being a bloated piece of shit. I'll go out of my way to defend that even JavaScript has done an a-okay job at fixing old flaws in the language and keeping new features, and not going full bullshit like a react.JS language and just leaving that up to the library designers
I like C++ because it's truly just the cuckservative language that tries not to go full-in on being a new goylang that solely exists just for marketing, but because it has a community of people who work together and form ideas for the spec and doesn't try to go full minimalist with C while providing all the shit and cowtools the programmer will ever need right in front of them.
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OUT!
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What are your thoughts on golang.
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Good c++ is good. Bad c++ is aids. The aim of rust in corpo land is to raise the bar so you can't write trash can memory leaking code since boomers and embeddedcels still like new/delete as if c++ never evolved
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This is why I only program in TI BASIC and Python
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Back in school i literally had some classes that used QBASIC
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I thought Azure was mostly .NET
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I love using real pointers in C++, any problems with dat white boi?
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"Learned to enjoy it," in the same sense that women can "learn to love" a psychopath who keeps them chained to his basement wall for 18 months.
I'm not an advocate for Rust, (as a general principle, I don't like any form of technology which is produced by a coercive cult which announces that it will now be taking over the world and everyone will use it whether they want to or not) but exactly the same thing happened with C++. Legions of vicious, elitist buttholes poured out of academia and mocked and denigrated anyone who resisted C++, and everyone eventually used it as a result. It had absolutely nothing to do with the actual merit of the language whatsoever.
I've realised, that more than anything else, programmers are absolutely spineless cucks. Most of you do exclusively what someone else tells you, and that means that the industry ends up defaulting to one absolutely degenerate pile of garbage masquerading as a programming language, after another. The worst thing is that it isn't always management who bullies you into using the latest piece of crap. It's normally another programmer; someone who you could actually get away with giving the punch in the mouth that they both need and deserve.
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settle down buddy its not that deep
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Indonesia and Philippines have never won a single war in history and are artificial mongrelized colonial constructs who only gained independence because America needed vassal states.
Indonesians are subhuman and incompetent. They got raided and conquered by streetpooping Chola Tamil sexy Indian dudes, r*ped and conquered by various Yemeni Hadrami Sultans like Pontianak Sultanate, r*ped and conquered by the Portuguese and then the Dutch for over 300 years, r*ped and conquered by the Japanese who killed hundreds of thousands of Indonesian men as slave labor while raping Indonesian Sunni Muslim girls. The cuck Indonesian nationalist collaborator Sukarno supplied Japanese soldiers with Indonesian Sunni Muslim girls as prostitutes.
Many Indonesians have a degree of sexy Indian dude ancestry from r*pe. There are millions of Indonesian with paternal Portuguese and Dutch ancestry from 300 years of r*pe (Indo people) and millions more Indonesians with paternal Hadrami Yemeni ancestry and Indonesians in Java descended from Japanese soldiers fricking Indonesian Sunni Muslim girls. A mongrel race.
In the Indonesian independence war, outnumbered Dutch and British forces humiliated, defeated and slaughtered numerically superior Indonesian independence fighters. Look up battle of Surabaya. The Indonesians were militarily defeated and it was only American pressure that led to the Dutch withdrawal and granting independence.
The Dutch sank Indonesian ships attempting to invade West Papua and again it was only American pressure that led to the Dutch withdrawal from West Papua and Indonesian annexation.
Indonesia is only good at mass murdering unarmed civilians in East Timor and West Papua. While Papuan fighters have killed Indonesian special forces with bows and arrows.
Stop shilling and mourning for incompetent subhuman mongrelized Indonesian war criminals who never won a single war in history.
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