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EFFORTPOST [Effortpost] [Niche Drama] Landwhale goes on an epic spergout over a Windows XP Pale Moon Fork, gets entire project Shut Down

Note: Since this already had KiwiFarms and Reddit posts, only the highlights will be posted here, with brief explanations provided (this is a terrible write-up, I know)

TL;DR: Two neurodivergent developers get into a spergout over some ukrainians Windows XP fork, states that it violates Mozilla Public License 5.1, shuts the entire thing down.

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In case anyone is wondering what Pale Moon is, it originally was a Firefox fork developed by Moonchild Productions, which is now based off Firefox before version 29, in which there was some past drama with the developers in the past

Now, enter Matt A. Torbin. He is the guy having a spergout over the Pale Moon Fork. He literally has at least twice called them terrorists, and criminals in the past. As you can tell, he really doesn't like them

Let's start with the first issue:

At the time, the developer of the Pale Moon fork (Mypal), Fedor2, in 2019, allegedly did not have the source code form set up right in the repo.. The problem was, since he grew in a post-Soviet shithole, specifically Ukraine, he did not fully understand how FOSS licenses work, due to how intellectual property is handled in that region. He also cannot speak proper English. Eventually, all was said and done, and Torbin seemed satisfied.

Ohhh, but it doesn't stop there. He is where Matt REALLY SPERGS OUT over him

Not only does Pale Moon exist, so does Baslisk, which is, you guessed it, yet another Firefox fork done by MoonChild Productions, this time, Firefox 52. Fedor2 also forks it, calling it Centuary, and this really gets the fatass riled up, this time proclaiming that he is in violation of MPL Section 5.1.

Not only does the drama continue, but now not only Fedor2 and Matt get into an argument over the license,, but now MoonChild gets involved.

Even more WORDS WORDS WORDS from Matt

Oh, and Fedor2 gives instructions, which really send Matt into a masssive spergout

Fedor2 then runs to the MSFN forums to get validation, and support over whether it violates Section 5.1 or not

Please help to understand what this is about

Here is another Pale Moon developer bringing the issue up

Anyway, in the very end, Fedor2 proceeds to close the repo up, stating someone else will need to take over the project

MSFN user mourns over its death

windowsxp sub seething

MoonChild tries to clarify, but people are still confused

Oh and supposedly, Moonchild and Torbin not only want the repo deleted, but everything destroyed, although Moonchild denies the case, accusing others of pulling an agenda to attack them.

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Daily reminder that Moonchild is an insufferable furry cute twink.

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Hey, the internet was built on the backs of insufferable furry cute twinks. Respect the history

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Tobin is so fricking insufferable too:

Why do you persist on trying to claim that 5.1 doesn't say exactly what it says. Also, why are you still here?

You're a manipulative traitor. A traitor to us, a traitor to open source, a traitor to America, and a traitor to humanity.

Seems to me like shutting down small projects for not adhering to a license is the opposite of supporting open source. This is why I don't bother making the code I write for chemistry stuff public. The thought of dealing with licensing is just unbearable.

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The thought of dealing with licensing is just unbearable

licensing is only a problem if you are improperly forking copyleft code from a developer that doesn't want you to, you need to be extra unlucky to have problems

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See, I just don't care about proper forking.

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"proper forking" is just having the patches in a git repo and not distributing just the patch files, 99% of people already do it right without knowing

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Intellectual Property Doesn't Exist

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so true https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841384159725454.webp

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Exactly.

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