Note: Since this already had KiwiFarms and Reddit posts, only the highlights will be posted here, with brief explanations provided (this is a terrible write-up, I know)
TL;DR: Two neurodivergent developers get into a spergout over some ukrainians Windows XP fork, states that it violates Mozilla Public License 5.1, shuts the entire thing down.
In case anyone is wondering what Pale Moon is, it originally was a Firefox fork developed by Moonchild Productions, which is now based off Firefox before version 29, in which there was some past drama with the developers in the past
Now, enter Matt A. Torbin. He is the guy having a spergout over the Pale Moon Fork. He literally has at least twice called them terrorists, and criminals in the past. As you can tell, he really doesn't like them
Let's start with the first issue:
At the time, the developer of the Pale Moon fork (Mypal), Fedor2, in 2019, allegedly did not have the source code form set up right in the repo.. The problem was, since he grew in a post-Soviet shithole, specifically Ukraine, he did not fully understand how FOSS licenses work, due to how intellectual property is handled in that region. He also cannot speak proper English. Eventually, all was said and done, and Torbin seemed satisfied.
Ohhh, but it doesn't stop there. He is where Matt REALLY SPERGS OUT over him
Not only does Pale Moon exist, so does Baslisk, which is, you guessed it, yet another Firefox fork done by MoonChild Productions, this time, Firefox 52. Fedor2 also forks it, calling it Centuary, and this really gets the fatass riled up, this time proclaiming that he is in violation of MPL Section 5.1.
Not only does the drama continue, but now not only Fedor2 and Matt get into an argument over the license,, but now MoonChild gets involved.
Even more WORDS WORDS WORDS from Matt
Oh, and Fedor2 gives instructions, which really send Matt into a masssive spergout
Here is another Pale Moon developer bringing the issue up
Anyway, in the very end, Fedor2 proceeds to close the repo up, stating someone else will need to take over the project
MSFN user mourns over its death
MoonChild tries to clarify, but people are still confused
Oh and supposedly, Moonchild and Torbin not only want the repo deleted, but everything destroyed, although Moonchild denies the case, accusing others of pulling an agenda to attack them.
Edit: LOL
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I'm fucking lost, and there's not enough Adderall in the world to get me to read that shit.
From what I can see the latest drama is that there's no directions for downloading the source associated with a given release? i.e. this could be resolved by a couple of tickboxes in the GitHub UI that generates an
.tar.gz
file per release/tag?The Ukrainian should've just locked the issue and said he's waiting for the legal letters.
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No I'm even more confused. From one of the other issues I've seen this:
To receive the source code behind interlink - which seems to be a derivative of Mozilla Thunderbird - you have to actually email them and request it. That seems a bit more difficult than what they're harassing the Ukrainian guy over.
Oh, and they may decide that you're not worthy of it..
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