Just wait until they turn off your e-vehicle remotely for refusing your 14h booster
Electric car owners in the frigid Midwest struggle to keep them charged
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Imagine being so humbled by the gasoline.
EVs are getting mogged by an invention from 1885
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Issue is infastructure limitation and big flaw on ev. Becouse you dont have exhaust heat. You need to use battery to heat inside of car. This kills range of ev. If i rember correctly. Max heat cuts range in half.
If you have enough charging capacity to keep every ev in city charged in summer. You are fricked in winter.
Combustion engines dont have this issue.
Keep winning coal burning bros
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The article says as much:
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Heat from a gas car is still coming from the battery, which gets charged enough by the engine that it won't die on you.
Cold is just not healthy for batteries in general. Its very difficult to get the optimal charge you need because of freezing temps. Its why people get dead batteries more often in winter.
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Are you trying to tell me you don't know how a heat pump works? Obviously its not just battery to heat you imbecile, I'm phoneposting, now frick off.
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Gas cars don't use heat pumps, just a fan blowing across a radiator on your coolant system
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I mixed up with EVs that now some do use a heat pump, but you're making my point the battery is powering more than just fans and its compensated by the engine.
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It's really just powering fans. Coolant pumps are usually driven by the engine
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Just admit that you were wrong, and are r-slurred and move on. Goddarn
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But they do use a heat pump.
Just keep yourself safe. Goddarn
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https://www.gregs.com/how-do-your-cars-a-c-and-heater-work
Only thing that uses battery is blower. Right now. Here there is -22°c. Dont argue with me how car heating works and winter proofing your car.
Maybe you are confusing regular heater to parking heater thats drains battery slightly more. But even then it burns fuel to heat.
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You also can't jump an EV. So when it dies sitting in the parking lot at work, just gotta get a tow truck I guess? With a normal car I've seen people get a ride home and return the next day and just install a new battery.
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the way all these car companies are doing everything they can to make sure the average person can't fix/maintain their own car is ridiculous. all this new computer bullshit makes it a pain in the butt. i don't need to be able to watch youtube and listen to a podcast while the car tells me directions and gives me weather/traffic updates and sometimes needs to download a new firmware update.
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If they stop making models that can function without over the air updates I'll never get to own a new car
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To be fair. You cant really jump modern gas cars too. Car companies went full r-slurred with computers.
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Well I've never met a car I couldn't jump
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Is car a euphemism for women?
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No, some of the modern models are too powerful for me
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what? I just jumped a car this morning. what did they do???
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They have full computer in them. Jumpping car causes power surge. Computers dont like that. You can break it by jumpping.
Even if you dont. With some cars. You get warning lights after that. You need to find way to reset those. For most those mean mechanic.
Its same with battery. If you replace battery by yourself. You end up lighing up warning lights.
Its just r-slurred. Not all modern cars are like that. Some are more fragile. Some are less.
Some say post 2020 cars arent as bad that regard as 2015-2020 cars.
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I love these gotcha posts. So what do you do when you throw a rod and put a hole in the block? Just come back the next day and swap that b-word in the parking lot? lol
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Are you r-slurred? Batteries dying in the cold is a common occurrence. The people I've seen swap a battery like that did it because they'd gotten multiple jumps within a couple of weeks.
Yeah you would get your car towed when there's a major mechanical failure. A battery dying requiring that makes it both unreliable and unaffordable for people living in cold climates.
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No, I'm a mechanic, you dumb son of a b-word. Your HV EV battery has as much in common with a lead acid 12v battery as you do with a person with a normal IQ, you driveling fricking r-slur. That'll be 150dc an hour with a two hour minimum, pay up b-word.
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Oh that makes sense. I've literally never gotten any advice from a mechanic that wasn't complete horseshit. Enjoy dying early from rolling around in toxic chemicals all day cute twink.
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Please buy new tires. I can see my reflection in the old ones.
frick you I didn't get rich by purchasing a new 300 dollar set of tires every ten years you LYING sack of SHIT
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That's accurate.
I've caught mechanics lying multiple times though. They don't realize those tricks won't work on me
One turned white when I told him that I already bought a warranty for the alt I'd brought him to install and the battery was about a month old, so I was absolutely not going to buy either off him. Everything was great about two minutes later: before I could even call the tow. Gave him his $200 and told him not to put it all up his nose lol.
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my tires are 380 avpiece
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You're r-slurred and this isn't how a heater core works. I roll more coal daily than you ever have in your life. Shut your gay mouth b-word.
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Its currently 19 degrees where I live. Every time I leave my house my ev is fully charged, so its like leaving with a full tank every time I pull out of my driveway. I have never charged at a charging station. With all five seat heaters on and heat on full blast, my range drops from about 270 miles to about 240. If I am going to drive over 200 miles I just take my gas car.
What kills ev range the most is fast highway speeds. If you drive fast you probably shouldnt get an EV or you will be very disappointed.
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Does the heat that comes out of the vents come from resistive heat or from a heat pump?
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I think there is at least a heat pump, but it may be a mix of both resistive, heat pump, and battery heat when available.
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Heat pumps can be decent as long as they work, but if you need to use resistive heat you're gonna drain your battery fast.
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No idea if ev have have heat pumps. I asumed they had just resitsnce heating. Becouse it drains battery so quickly.
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An AC is a heat pump, and having one that operates in two directions should be just a few extra steps, but I'm posting here so I'm probably an r-slur that you shouldn't trust.
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I looked ir up. They have both. When heat pump isnt enough it will use good ol electricity to heat that b-word up.
Otherwise it makes do with heat pump
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We just need to line EVs with sealskin.
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Prometheus really did us a solid.
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Bro the dinosaurs invented gasoline.
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@3
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Plastic was invented by the dinosaurs as well
!dinochads
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I hope when I become oil some aliens will make a human toy out of me and give me to their children.
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If you needed more proof city dwellers are r-slurred, there's people who live in Chicago that can afford a Tesla but cant afford to live somewhere with parking and a charging port.
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They give car loans to anyone. I know cause I've watched that stupid YouTube strag that showcases losers in financial trouble.
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Average monthly payment for new cars is over $700. More than 60% of the loan terms are over 67 months.
People are just buying cars as long as their monthly payment fits into the budget. The interest they're paying isn't even being factored into the decision.
Burgers have an overspending problem.
https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/personal-loans/articles/this-is-the-average-monthly-car-payment-in-2023-how-do-you-compare
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nah by this line of thought buying a house is slurred
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Part of the overspending issue is the lack of a bare bones cheap car imo. Everything is gigantic, overpriced shit
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Doesn't help that it's illegal to sell a reasonably priced car. Simply remove all fuel efficiency and safety regulation and cars will get much more affordable
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Unironically agree. If motorcycles are legal, shitboxes should be too
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That's what new car buyers are buying, who are people in their 50s (average new buyer age is something like 52). People with families who lug around all their crap. That's what OEMs are catering to.
Car enthusiasts talk a big game but they skew younger and poorer, and they buy used, which is largely useless to OEMs.
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You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
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Great username king
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Thanks
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@Losercel
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ITT: mechanically inept dramanauts cannot figure out what a heater core is or how it works
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This is what you get for not having a heated garage.
EVs are useless if you have no place to charge them consistently reliably.
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Leaving a huge battery system charging in an enclosed space seems fraught in other ways.
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I'm currently at a place where it goes down to - 20C and they had 5 electric buses at the depot All of them looked like they hadn't been driven in a while.
Government wastes so much money.
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It's ok; we save the environment
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Well maybe theyre not good in the cold, butt at least they can get wet
https://www.autoblog.com/2022/10/14/flooded-teslas-catch-fire-after-hurricane-ian
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Who is "they"?
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Maybe Op is unsure of their pronouns and is trying t9 be respectful?
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Why don't they just just adjust it so it can only be a 20 minute charge? Nobody is driving EVs hundreds of miles. 20 minutes gets you to and from anything local.
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I dont understand why they cant just add a small catalytic heater to warm the cabin and batteries.
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Snapshots:
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