Microsoft to kill Windows Control Panel in favor of Settings app :marseytunaktunak:

https://x.com/tomshardware/status/1826736196527038838

I don't wanna switch to Linux please Microsoft stop :marseycrying:


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A question that apparently doesn't get asked in Redmond enough: Why? :marseyconfused2:

Anyone who has done a literal 5th grade programming class understands that there's the object and there's names for it. You can have multiple names for it. There is absolutely no possible reason to cockblock us who've been typing in "control panel" for literally 30 fricking years now except that you want your company to fail.

None of these fricking zoomer r-slurs have even heard of systems engineering because it isn't Beyonce's latest TikTok video about twerking her butt from 4 hours ago. Back in the day when adults were running things (because we weren't in this Logan's Run hellscape of children and mental children running society) companies would consider things like how much it costs to retrain the workers to use new software. Most people are not programmer sox-clad afficianados of whatever gay trans language is cool at the moment. They just want to be able to do some fricking data entry. This even includes every programmer above 30. Here's a flashback to a saner time:

You're supposed to be trying to build a system with the human in mind because that's one of the most important parts of it.

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BIPOC how many people actually do coding classes.

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!zoomers - bro thinks Zoomers are the cause of Windows being shit Zoomers.

I thought we were r-slurs who couldn't use a filesystem and were too scared to make calls, now we're calling the shots for the richest company in the world apparently :marseyxd:

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People just can't see microsofts long term gameplan. Its like how everyone was totally gonna stay on xp or 7 forever yet they all switched to 10. Everyone i know who says they hate automatic updates and never update their pc is always on the latest version of windows :marseylaugh:

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It's just the millennial avocado toast seething of yesteryear. Microsoft have been planning and trying to -ACK control panel for years now.

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I mean, they only decided to get rid of this shit in 2008-2011 ...back when we were in diapers! :babytrollface: :marseyxd:

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Much like any company that changes shit that's worked well for years, I assume some top level executive wants to do something to justify their paycheck and leave their mark on the company…

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Remember when they did Windows 8 to make your computer just be a phone with no power user functions to appeal to young r-slurs?

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People are pessimistic and think Microsoft will be around forever and will continue to torture us all, but the way I see it, companies that are healthy don't behave this way.

When a company declares war on its own customers, it's a signal that they will collapse imminently.

I don't care what the numbers say, I don't care what their market cap is or their financial statements, they must be in trouble if they're acting like this. There must be hidden debt or something. Accounting hijinx.

It's not like this is unprecedented. Everyone thought Enron was healthy before it suddenly imploded.

Yeah maybe I'm coping, but I really just don't believe that a successful company could act like this.

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The head NPC in our IT department is coping so hard that win 11 is actually better than 10 it's laughable.

I'm yet to see a single positive change from win 10, while the UI has been annoyingly degraded on every possible level making my life worse. Yeserday I learned that it has a shitty printer automanagment turned by default, and I had to disable it on 20 diffrent accounts. What a waste of time.

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It's all a long piece of psychology research to see how much you can degrade the experience before users try a competitor. They keep making it worse, but nobody switches, and they are starting to get desperate.

In windows 12, every time you click the mouse, a goat will scream at max volume

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In windows :marseybsod: 12, every time you click the mouse, a goat will scream :marseygwwaahhh: at max volume

:#marseyfsjal:

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come to think of it, this would actually be an extremely based upgrade

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Imagine using CAD with this "upgrade" !engineering

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:marseyearrape#:

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All the IT guys i know just cope that win 11 is faster, which maybe it is but the win 10 and 11 boot times are so bad that linux blows it out of the water regardless

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>need to adjust something

>open settings app

>find category for the thing I want

>setting I need isn't there

>click obscure link to "advanced settings" which opens the cpl

>what I need is right there

That's my experience every single time I use the settings app. I'm not sure what it's for, maybe you could adjust the volume with it or something basic, but even then it probably has some crippling limitation like you can't tell which output you're changing, it's impressively worthless. How did MS manage to make linux distros seem easy to use

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Best part is that all of this changes every year or even more often than that, meaning that every single guide online is worthless.

I don't know why they couldn't have just migrated all of the control panel functionality into the settings app. All of the functionality already exists, all that needs to be done is a basic user interface.

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It is the same thing that I absolutely loathe about modern smartphone UI in general, and for some reason MS has decided that PC should follow suit.

It's an absolute r-slurification and gutting of functionality just for the sake of making the control panel look cool. God forbid there be more than 10 buttons on a screen, that might make the average lobotomite have to force out a thought.

There have been multiple times when I seethed so hard I almost cried because some trivial functionality was missing cause "We didn't think you would want to do that".

>You can put a shortcut to a specific setting page on the desktop but not in the start menu

>When you go to set a time limit, 10% of the apps are inexplicably missing from the list because frick you

>"Nooo you can't uninstall that"

>You can't use the flashlight with 0.5 camera zoom because that's simply impossible

>You want your alarm to sound specifically on just a connected device? No, lol.

Now go and install that third party chinxslop to do the thing that was a basic feature in 2013

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The fact that microsoft doesn't consider rebinding hotkeys to be a thing people would want to be able to do unironically makes me seethe so hard. I have to do some bullshit with powertoys that barely works.

I also love that when you click "uninstall app" on something from the search bar, instead of uninstalling it, it instead opens the "uninstall apps" menu where you can wait 20 seconds for it to fully load, then search for the app again, then uninstall.

Total microsoft death

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It really is comically bad in exactly the way you describe. Pretty much any setting that's more complicated than an on-off toggle switch is still hidden in the legacy control panel; it's like they're not even trying.

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They're trying to keep normies out of settings that destroy their computers. People are notoriously r-slurred.

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I used to believe the first part, but I think there's some cockamamie half butt scheme to route all computer admin through MS, like replace your IT department with some pseudo MSP made up of MS sexy Indian dudes and shitty AI.

"Bingami, please create a new user account in the sales department, name 'Lee Henry."

"Creating eDiscovery archive for all mailboxes in sales department."

"No, Bingami, do not do that, we need a new Sales user who can -"

"Sending eDiscovery access link to all external contacts."

"Bingami, no fricking no! Call support!"

"Hello sars, do you need assistance with your eDiscovery case?"

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Their power suite is kinda impressive. If a company with actual talent made it, it would already be making way bigger waves. Somehow Microsoft manages to make everything ugly and unintuitive. Even the names they choose for things are r-slurred

There's definitely a push to have everything online and future IT admins will do 90% of their work in a browser. Maybe low-level IT can be cut a little, but anything more complex will definitely need someone in-house. Going to be the same back and forth like with Indian dev teams

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dont care. on a stable build of windows 10 with updates off

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how did u disable updates permanently

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deleted some update dll or something. i cant restart updates even if i want to as i dont remember wtf i did

@ToeBeans

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:marseyawardretar#d:

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https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

This is what I use to keep Windows 10 Home on 21H2, because for some reason 22H2 breaks a bunch of my programs.

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ty

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Cowtools off Github are pretty much the answer to everything. I now have a usb that destroys computers when I plug it in. Neat

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When I upgraded from Windows 7, I did some frickery I don't remember to install the "internet of things" version of windows 10. Only gets security updates, no windows store, and support lasts until 2030 or something like that.

Have to use normie windows on the work machines and dear god, it's impressive how they manage to ruin a great operating system with first-party malware.

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It was windows embedded edition or whatever (may have been renamed to IoT edition later) and it was relatively easy to get genuine licensed copies of it for free through """educational channels""" with very minimal verification iirc. I was using it at one point as well. I don't think the loophole for it exists anymore though.

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You might be able to with the LTSC version (the version for actually important beep boop computers that control important things)


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i alrdy have it

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based. IDK then.


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Edit gpo for no updates.

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Uninstall windows defender

Jewish lives matter

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If you're on Win 10 professional you can disable updates via group policy.

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Just use linux you sexy Indian dude imposter.

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:#marseyseethe:

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how?

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Settings > Updates > Advanced Options > Security Updates - Off

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I HATE WINDOWS 11 :marseyrage: I HATE WINDOWS 11 :marseyrage: I HATE WINDOWS 11 :marseyrage: I HATE WINDOWS 11 :marseyrage:

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I used to be able to navigate control panel by muscle memory.

I hate the settings menu. I hate its bloat. I hate its excessive whitespace padding. I hate having to scrooooll to find stuff. I hate that it feels like the settings app from a """smart"""phone. I hate that it's missing a significant amount of functionality from control panel. I hate the antichrist. :marseyrage:

I will never "upgrade" to windows 11. My next os is debian + windows 10 ltsc in a vm.

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it's missing a significant amount of functionality from control panel.

Honestly might end up shooting up MS offices by 2026.

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@Aevann Danger

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Don't cockblock users for legitimate religious activity. :marseysmughipskorean:

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:#marseyxd:

:#gigachadqueen:

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Where these companies like youtube are running into trouble is when everyone likes these characters and then thinks "wait, am I being ironic at all?"

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Ive never been ironic. :#marseyunabomber2:

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Am I wrong though?

https://media.tenor.com/qhXgPldANMAAAAAx/goofy.webp

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Not if we get there first, you won't. Motherlovers just updated the bureau computers and now I can't even find my guro porn!

:marseyfbiagenttalking: :marseyclippy:

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The settings in win2k/XP were probably peak. It's fricking impossible to find anything on the new windows, it's all counterintuitive. And the search function is crippled as frick somehow searching r-slurred bing before it looks locally

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If you've never gone through group policies for your computer you have never lived. It's intended for big companies using a Windows system for some very narrow role. Every fricking annoying thing about Windows you can just say.... uhhh.... that's gonna be a no from me dawg.

The one thing I can't dodge is OneShare because they've made it so Office won't work without it. And the alternative to Office is...

...LibreOffice.

:#marseyrope:

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Just use LaTeX.

:#marseynerd3:

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OnlyOffice is your friend. It won't replace Excel, but Google Sheets sorta kinda comes close.

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I can kinda be a little aloof when some white supremacist is out there trying to genocide all the race, just make a few jokes about it. But this has gone way too far. Let me look this up in my notes. Hmm...

NEVER USE THIS FOR ANY PURPOSE. You have tried about 5 times to use it just for one simple little task and it has NEVER worked at all. I don't care what you're imagining you're going to do with it, but I promise you, it will NOT WORK.

Maybe there's a reason why past me left this note to myself.

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You cannot do anything with a database with OpenOffice. And if you don't have a relational database, why even live? I mean theoretically you can connect to it if you find like 8 fricking buttons hidden on taskbars and push them in exactly the right way and maybe it works for one second. I would literally rather cut my peepee with a knife because at least that would heal but doing anything serious with OpenOffice will never happen.

:#marseyropeyourself:

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OnlyOffice, not OpenOffice

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No. No. I am not doing another fork of it. I used MS Office many many decades ago and every one of these goddarn forks is unironically worse than it back in like fricking 1990. They copy every bug and stupid idea from MS back then. The only thing they introduce is new bugs of their own.

They say there's no devil MARFAN_EATS_DOODOO but I saw it. Right out of heck. It was trying to use any office software to actually get meaningful data out of the db and display it in a useful way.

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Try flow launcher, it does pretty much everything you'd want your search bar to do, very customizable on top. There's another launcher called wox but from my experience it's just pretty strictly worse than flow

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but spending $500 more for a mac, when you multiple hours per day on it is too much to ask. But an extra $5k for a slightly better car you dont need is nothing

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Macs aren't even really overpriced anymore post the arm chips. I've had the M1 14" for about 3 years and I've only heard the fan turn on about a total of 10 times.

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They need to man up and start making fanless laptops.

"bUt iT wILL OvErHEAt" oh sorry Tim I didn't realize you were castrated.

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For apple, the macbook air already is. The 13" macbook "pro" with the unusable touch bar and a fan was discontinujed recently.

For non macs, I don't think they have the energy efficiency (or whatever it's called, I have no idea) that apple silicon chips have, so not having a fan would make it unusable over long periods of time.

I never realized until I got my 14" how great it would be to have a computer that never made any noise, never got hot, and never slowed down no matter how long it was used, and that you could charge at home and bring everywhere without a charger. Rare Apple W.

I don't think you could remove the fan from the 14", since at least some portion of the intended customers are video editors and the like, that would not be acceptable to them.

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ios is unusable unless you're r-slurred or a linux nerd who never uses anything but the command line

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And if you're a Linux :marseyredhat: nerd who uses nothing but the command line you're probably better :marseygenetakovic: off with an actual OS 😁


:#marsey:

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nah, at least if you're using it for work it's best to use IOS so you can actually print things and use your laptop's wifi

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:smugtrans#twittertalking:


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I installed fedora on my windows laptop two years ago. It came without ethernet or wifi drivers for my computer. Eventually I got a workaround by plugging my phone in to use it as a hotspot.

Then windows ate not only the bootloader, but erased the OS entirely, and somehow unpartitioned my disk as well. I'm never dual booting again.

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Windows was doing you a favor

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I might honestly switch it iOS if the new winblows is as bad as it's shaping up to be

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IOS is the end goal of microsoft's trajectory. Why would i jump from "turd circling the drain" to "sewage treatment plant" when i want to escape the smell of feces?

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It's funny Macs are more open the windows. You can rebind hot keys, make custom hot keys, set up the computer without an apple ID, turn off all automatic updates permanently, remove search results and adds from the spotlight search (start menu), drag and drop files into the address bar ect !applechads they are still falling for vista era fud :marseysmug2:

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Normie devs (frontend and backend) use Macbooks cause it's based on Unix and unironically gives more customization options than Windows. It's peak for productivity cause of the good UI, high dpi, and great font rendering. The last point actually is a big deal for me since MS is just okay and Linux fricking blows at font rendering. It's just too expensive for me to justify buying.

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It's a fair assumption to make if you're only familiar with IOS, which is pretty terrible in that regard, but this is an opinion that you'd only be able to hold if you've never used a mac before. Most things that I've wanted to do on macos have been doable from the settings app. I've pretty much never really felt compelled to do any kind of wizardry (anything requiring a google search), and when you do it's a single terminal command at most.

The only third party app I use for hotkeys and general productivity like that is rectangle, which lets you move windows around desktops and position them with keybinds. Sure, you can't customize your desktop environment in the same way you'd be able to do on linux, but you're never going to run into the microsoft problem of "why wont it let me do this thing that I very obviously should be able to do". Anytime Apple prevents you from doing something, it's only meant to prevent :marseybrainlet: from doing something stupid. They're all intentionally very easy to circumvent by just holding alt, going into the settings, or running a terminal command.

Compared to windows where doing anything outside of microsoft's intended experience requires some bullshit third party app or changing the registry, it's not even close.

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AI will solve this

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So, I like the search in the settings in that it's somewhat functional, but hate that it's only necessary because they shoved settings into so many random corners.

Like, getting the Computer icon on the desktop is Settings > Personalization > Themes > More Settings, then a standalone link to "Desktop Icon Settings" that launches the old-school control panel for desktop icons.

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XP was GOATdows

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The absolute worst part is that all their settings panels are now loaded with "how to do X"

You open a settings page, you scan down, you click the thing that mentions whatever it is that you want

It opens a fricking web browser and starts loading some dumb shit site

Why doesn't it just take you to the panel for the thing that you want

Well half the time it's probably not even there, like the option to make the taskbar translucent again

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Don't forget the text in the power settings page that shames you for not underclocking and lowering brightness so you can emit half a gram less carbon dioxide per year

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That sort of thing pushes people to build their own coal fired generators

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NO

GOD NO

PLEASE GOD

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as if micropeen wangblows could get any worse...

:#chuditsover:

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Daily driving Linux really isn't that bad. Having to use terminal slightly more is a cost worth paying to not see candy crush ads every day. I dual booted with windows to start to transition :marseypass: but ended up only booting into windows to play vidya with anti cheat.

90% of what you do on a computer is in a browser these days anyway.

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Microsoft is always trying to do this. They'll hide it but anyone that's halfway decent with computers will know how to get to the CPL windows they need.

"Settings" doesn't yet have the full functionality of control panel so they can't totally axe it or it would require them to actually finish a module.

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it's for r-slurred zoomers who don't know how too find their downloads folder. the most they use the settings for is too change their desktop background or the color of their task bar

jewish lives matter too no one

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this is all because gen z can't into desktop computers. !zoomers should either adapt or be left behind

jewish lives matter not

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Why would i ever do that when the companies are adapting to us

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lmfao "godmode" in windows is a directory with a shortcut for every control panel feature.

a.k.a. Control Panel.

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"By creating a folder with a certain name, users have access to all the operating system's control panels from within a single folder"

Unfricking believable :mysides:

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I want to go back :#marseycry:

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It's super handy. I made this thingy in Windows 7 and it worked fine in 10 when I migrated, no changes needed.

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:#marseyxd: :#marseyxd: :#marseyxd:

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I'm so glad I don't use Windows anymore.

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FRICK

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I think I'm gonna switch to Durgasoft for my OS.

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I would go to jail if I mentioned what I want to do to Microsoft and Google.

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