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Is HN truly a bunch of masochistic cucks in every sphere of their lives? On the ethics :mjlol: of using kindle and buying books in 2025 (mfers too poor to buy an ipad and go to libgen/Anna's archive)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43141825
Amazon now discloses you're buying a license to view Kindle eBooks

I've only bought a few ebooks but even then, I've immediately went and pirated them too to feel like I have something

:#marseysaint2:

Ever since Amazon removed copies of Orwell's "1984" from people's Kindles after sale, it's served as a reminder that ownership is a fickle thing

It's literally 1498. :itsjoever2#:

It's ok boys, now you're allowed to pirate all books ever published as long as you don't seed.

If you heckon get the zucchini reference your a genus :#marseybigbrain:

This is the result of a recent law in California:

:#marseyhmm:

That button should say "Rent this book".

Claiming you can "Buy this book" is a lie and false advertising.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1740279558KMUCXyQKKDOX1Q.webp :#soyjakyell:

Yeah. I "bought" a Kindle copy of There Will Be War awhile back to get access to a few of the short stories in the collection.

:#marseycuck:

Maybe not a super popular opinion on HN, but this effectively changes nothing for me. I love reading on my kindle, by far the most convenient way to buy and read books for me (esp when traveling often).

It's good that they are now being upfront about it, but it won't impact my buying behaviour and it won't for the majority of readers.

:#marseycuck: :#marseycuck: :#marseycuck:

I don't think I would ever buy an e-book.

I really want to find a good way to buy DRM-free ebooks.

I really want to spend on :#marseyfunkobox:

Support your local bookstore, before they are all gone.

:#soyjakfat:

Buy a printer moron

I have bought books from Amazon and Manning.com, mostly technical books. I have to say, I am so happy with the business model of Manning.com:

I am a booklicker , but I gots to say, some books taste better than others

And many more cuckistanis abound

!chuds !bookworms !dramatards

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Are you a stealchad or a DRM complainer fair use author survival commiecuck?

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I do not care if you are a multinational corporation or have 4 followers on Twitter, I WILL violate your intellectual property rights.

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it's not even stealing tho

:#marseywut2:

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look at how much those pirates stole from us!!

5 GAJILLION IN potential REVENUE :marseyweeping:

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I bought a 10 in tablet computer for comics and textbooks. Put Linux On it so No DRM. I charge it every few days while I shower. I can just read normal books on my phone. Color E ink still looks like shit.

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>color E ink

:marseyyikes:

black e ink supremacy

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I bought a color e reader because thats all the store had. I only use it for text lol. The contrast isn't as great as a B&W but it's still good for books. I don't read comic books though because I'm an adult

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Which one?

I'm thinking of getting a new Kobo Libra Color soon, if it goes on sale again at least. It has a color screen but people seem to say the visual artifacts from the color screen are minor enough to not be noticeable unless you're staring at it up-close.

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That's the one I have, I like it and it's quite readable. I only noticed the difference after using a B&W one

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I'll probably get it then. I used to have a Kobo Libra 2 but it died so I'm looking for a replacement, I guess I could get another Libra 2 but figure I might as well get the newer one.

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:da#srite:

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I disagree, e ink is super comfy

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but it can't read full color comics :marseyindignant:

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I'm an adult :marseyconfused:

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Poor katserkitten got destroyed.

:#marseytear!s: :#m!arseyfemboygenocide:

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I don't get why people care. It's perfectly normal to pay to see a movie in a theater; no one expects to leave with a copy they can use again and again. I don't get a take-home album of the songs a DJ plays at a club.

Kindle is Amazon's movie theater for books. They basically subsidize the hardware, and you buy on Kindle for a ticket to read the book on Kindle. This is also like console gaming. In both cases, after the initial experience, you only "own" the item on borrowed time.

If I want the experience of a book on my shelf, I buy that -- not the Kindle edition. Sometimes, I want to own something, and sometimes I prefer convenience. !neolibs

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They have digital movie rentals. Since you're getting less you pay less for it. When the button's labeled buy instead of rent people expect to get more

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When the button's labeled buy instead of rent people expect to get more

So regulate the terms: https://www.cooley.com/news/insight/2024/2024-10-01-new-california-law-requires-disclosures-for-selling-online-digital-goods

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Yeah that's literally what the OP is about

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This is why the only books I buy on Kindle are English language books for which I can't find a pirated version. For translations from other languages I just buy the printed versions in Portuguese.

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@SerGay HAVE A DESKTOP, LAPTOP AND IPAD. @SerGay DOWNLOAD EPUB AND PDFS ILLEGALLY. @SerGay HAVE NEVER OWNED A KINDLE SINCE @SerGay IS NOT A CUCK

@SerGay say this as a feminist ally

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I just buy the subsidized hardware and jailbreak it so I can put pirate books on it and save the most money.

People like me are the reason M$ had to harden the shit out of the 360. I hacked my OG and me and my friends all copied eachothers games

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Kindle is Amazon's movie theater for books.

I want you to keep repeating this until you realize how r-slurred that is.

YOU WILL NEVER OWN LAND AND YOU WILL LIKE IT! YOU WILL SUBSCRIBE TO HOUSE+ AND WIFE PRO AND CHILDREN BETA 2.6 AND IT WILL BE CONVENIENT AND WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG YOU WILL LEAVE A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT REVIEW ABOUT YOUR WIFE PRO CHEATING ON YOU WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR AND THE WIFE PROVIDER WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE AND OFFER YOU A REFUND OF 10 DOLLARS.

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YOU WILL NEVER OWN LAND

I own, but I still stay in hotels when I'm somewhere else. And sometimes I just want to read a book once, portably.

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>ipad

That's not an ereader

ereaders have very long battery life and a printed paper looking screen

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There's no such thing called e-reader just like there's no such thing called an ipod in 2025.

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HOW THE FRICK DO YOU READ BOOKS ON THIS?

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https://media.tenor.com/vu1FkIH_DBAAAAAx/comedy-parody.webp

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Get a Kobo and bookmark zlibrary lol. It's a better ereader and Amazon can't get their grubby fingers on your .epub

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Do people not realize you can load pirated books on your kindle? I buy books for it from time to time just due to ease of access and not being poor but there's nothing stopping you from putting pirated books on your kindle. And I think people would be surprised just how many books are available to download for free online that are completely legal to download

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Isn't there some annoying process where you need to email the .epub to some automated Amazon email system that converts it to the Amazon format and sends it to your Kindle?

idk maybe they've fixed it but that used to be the process

Meanwhile with actual good models like the Kobo ones you can just plug them in via USB and copy the files directly. No internet required.

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I wouldn't know. I have always found it to be an outdated device

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I pay for books because I'm not poor, crying about the $5 for an ebook and wasting time stealing it is classic BIPOC behavior tbh

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Hard disagree. When you want to deep dive a topic, you wanna fill a folder, not buy a book. It's not about the money, it's about downloading ten books at once without going through the effort of a shitty modern ebook site

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>download one book from libgen

>immediately go to bibliography

>download all books mentioned

>deal with it cuck corp :#gigachad2:

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I have enough science and technical books to rebuild western civilization saved in my external drive from this

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to be honest I haven't done research in actual books since I was in school

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What does being poor have to do with being a cuck that "pays" for shit?

Like, b-word, be glad I'm even consuming your media.

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