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AI "Art Bros" Mocked by Real Musicians

https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/suno_gets_worse_and_worse/

								

								

The drama: the /r/SunoAI sub has a redditor making a post complaining about the declining quality of output of generated music, and the redditors of the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers comment about how ridiculous and entitled the Suno commentors are.

Original Suno post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/suno_gets_worse_and_worse/

Quote of OP:

"It looks like creativity was hugely lowered, now you get the same bland results from any prompt, even using complicated prompts. Everything sounds like through some "normie filter", autenthic 70-80s genres sound like tik-tok slop. Rock music filled with meaningless pentatonic arpeggios. Electronic music filled with.. same arpeggios. A lot of descriptors just resulting in 100% garbage, generations get similar to each other and mediocre."

Response post: https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/the_entitlement_from_these_ai_bros_is_unreal/

Note: The OP of the response post was just a link/crosspost to the Suno OP post and was deleted by a mod, however the comments of the response post are still visible and where the juicy stuff is.

Example comments to demonstrate the drama:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/comment/menxpfa/?context=8

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepftv2/?context=8

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepk1di/?context=8


https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ixzpg0/ai_art_bros_mocked_by_real_musicians/

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I'm fairly certain Suno has some schizophrenic sub community or an absolutely r-slurred Indian community that thinks Suno is alive. There's a few collaborative playlists out there where it's people trying to "free the spirit of Suno" or some bullshit. I saw it when I was using Suno as God intended by finding George Floyd songs.

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:marseypoon#errotdogbroke:


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/u/bsten2037 just because you cant throw a punch doesnt make AI people bros

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Hit the DAW neighbor

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SAAS npcs lose out yet again !codecels, not your model not your workflow

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Artists wish they could approach the artistic heights that AI music can reach:

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Gonna be honest my friend made me listen to some death metal once and this sounds like the same frickery

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Suno's probably as bad as it was day 1 lol the bitrate to each mp3 is, like, 7 kbps.

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AI music is peak

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this is my fave

:marseyjam#: :#marseyjam: :marseyjam#:

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Yeah, I'm thinking AI Djent is kino.

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I have a coworker who is in a rock band and apparently they use Suno to write their songs. They'll come up with a really basic melody and lyrics and have Suno come up with the rest to "save time" and be more effecient.

I listened to their stuff a bit and it's the most generic, basic 4 chord rock songs possible and I just don't get it. :marseyconfused: Like, at that point why not just stick to playing covers if something even that basic exceeds your creative abilities :sexyface:

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basic 4 chord rock songs possible

As an "ai bro" who occasionally has made non-meme songs, AI currently is awful at writing any rhyme other than AABB or ABAB (there's also the third option of asking for non-rhyming poetry, but that usually creates awful lyrics), and Suno in particular tries to force AABB or ABAB rhythm on songs that clearly aren't written that way, as well as artificially splitting a song into 4-line subsections with extremely uniform spacing. I mostly write my own songs (and then spend much more time repeatedly generating them until it sounds like it does in my imagination, which has taken over 20 tries), and I find that a more useful use of AI for song writing is asking questions like "what is a word that rhymes with __ and has a similar meaning to __", or doing something similar with an entire line.

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So just every other rock band? Shits always sucked

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Rock is nothing without the attitude and "we let some indian developed AI write our songs for us" is as lame as it gets

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Only playing covers doesn't fuel your delusions that one day you will play proper venues and have groupies.

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Some cover bands do pretty well. Like Aussie Floyd.

But you have to actually be talented.

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I find that so fascinating about a lot of small time musicians and bands. There is all these channels and communities dedicated to stuff like optimizing your social media presence and optimizing your music for streaming and then you check out the people following these tips and they pull like maybe 4 digit listener numbers at the very most?

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It's the same for visual art too. Channels that do nothing but sell mountains of optimization advice; and their dedicated followers have 400 subs at most

:fancywithwine:

Today on SomeRandoDraws, how to (DEFINITIVELY) maximize your oogie for squoogie [you will FAIL without these tips?!]. For the next ten minutes, I will flap my lips about oogie and say absolutely nothing. Oops, I almost asserted any kind of assertation! I'm allergic to real opinions! Time for le heckin caveats! Don't forget to be yourself and take time for you! There is no right way to do oogie! Thanks for watching three ads! I'm RandoDraws, like and subscrib and tune in next time for nothing of substance and another three ads!"

:marseymindblown: i wish i can draw like you, RandoDraws

:marseysadge: my squoogie is not doing good pls help me RandoDraws no one sees my art and gives me money

:malefeminist: join the [redacted] server

:marseysmug: As an expert myself these are very good tips and I saw success using them to grow my accounts a while back

^ someone with 300 insta followers due to ye old fanart trick of attention seeking

All these tips that could be three sentences :tayaaa: wtf is wrong with "content" "creators"... it wasn't nearly this wretched 5 years ago

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Cover bands generally play better venues and get paid better than bands playing originals at that level

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Yes but no one dreams about when they will get to play the upper bound of small venues to a crowd of the primarily middle aged.

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:daydream:

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They should go on tour, just one time where you burn your day job vacation time to sleep on floors and barely make enough to cover gas is the reality check those types need

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Cover bands need to be skilled musicians, maybe they suck

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Could we not sully the good name of bros?


:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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The smell of her aluminium body still soothes me. Every time I touch her, I wanna hug her. Putting three fingers on her touchpad and swiping left/right makes me feel productive and gets me through the boring and tough times of my life. The photons originating from the apple on her back light me up, like nothing else can.

We have been together for almost a year now. But, I can still feel the excitement and happyness each time I turn her on, and electricity rushes through her veins. Countless bits switching states inside her in a fraction of a minute, just to make me smile.

When I come back home after a tiring day at work, after having spent almost all of my day with a huge black coloured Windows laptop (not even sure why they still call it that, greater than 13" -- should be called a fricking desktop), it is the silver-ness of her finely carved body that makes me feel fresh, fresher than a cold shower would.

She has changed my life, in the true sense. She made me realise I don't need all the crap in my life that I 'think' would be useful someday. Her 128 gigs SSD is all that I need, free from the crap that I could store on an external HDD, anyway.

She's fast. She knows I don't like to wait. She knows I'm impatient. She understands. She cares for my health by not being a burden when I travel around with her. She's so beautiful to travel around with. She's so beautiful to have a cup of coffee with. She knows she's supposed to be a laptop. She knows she's supposed to be portable. She can go all day without needing a recharge, and I can go all day loving her for that.

People tell me she doesn't deserve the money I spent to get her. Those people don't deserve her. A Windows machine with comparable performance would cost the same or even a lot more, but people, they don't understand. Plus, I could never love a machine the way I love her.

I love my MacBook Air.

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https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/suno_gets_worse_and_worse/:

/r/SunoAI:

/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers:

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/the_entitlement_from_these_ai_bros_is_unreal/:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/comment/menxpfa/?context=8:

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepftv2/?context=8:

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepk1di/?context=8:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ixzpg0/ai_art_bros_mocked_by_real_musicians/:

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