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AI "Art Bros" Mocked by Real Musicians

https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/suno_gets_worse_and_worse/

								

								

The drama: the /r/SunoAI sub has a redditor making a post complaining about the declining quality of output of generated music, and the redditors of the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers comment about how ridiculous and entitled the Suno commentors are.

Original Suno post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/suno_gets_worse_and_worse/

Quote of OP:

"It looks like creativity was hugely lowered, now you get the same bland results from any prompt, even using complicated prompts. Everything sounds like through some "normie filter", autenthic 70-80s genres sound like tik-tok slop. Rock music filled with meaningless pentatonic arpeggios. Electronic music filled with.. same arpeggios. A lot of descriptors just resulting in 100% garbage, generations get similar to each other and mediocre."

Response post: https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/the_entitlement_from_these_ai_bros_is_unreal/

Note: The OP of the response post was just a link/crosspost to the Suno OP post and was deleted by a mod, however the comments of the response post are still visible and where the juicy stuff is.

Example comments to demonstrate the drama:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SunoAI/comments/1ixgc4p/comment/menxpfa/?context=8

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepftv2/?context=8

https://old.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1ixw5hr/comment/mepk1di/?context=8


https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1ixzpg0/ai_art_bros_mocked_by_real_musicians/

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I have a coworker who is in a rock band and apparently they use Suno to write their songs. They'll come up with a really basic melody and lyrics and have Suno come up with the rest to "save time" and be more effecient.

I listened to their stuff a bit and it's the most generic, basic 4 chord rock songs possible and I just don't get it. :marseyconfused: Like, at that point why not just stick to playing covers if something even that basic exceeds your creative abilities :sexyface:

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Only playing covers doesn't fuel your delusions that one day you will play proper venues and have groupies.

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Some cover bands do pretty well. Like Aussie Floyd.

But you have to actually be talented.

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I find that so fascinating about a lot of small time musicians and bands. There is all these channels and communities dedicated to stuff like optimizing your social media presence and optimizing your music for streaming and then you check out the people following these tips and they pull like maybe 4 digit listener numbers at the very most?

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It's the same for visual art too. Channels that do nothing but sell mountains of optimization advice; and their dedicated followers have 400 subs at most

:fancywithwine:

Today on SomeRandoDraws, how to (DEFINITIVELY) maximize your oogie for squoogie [you will FAIL without these tips?!]. For the next ten minutes, I will flap my lips about oogie and say absolutely nothing. Oops, I almost asserted any kind of assertation! I'm allergic to real opinions! Time for le heckin caveats! Don't forget to be yourself and take time for you! There is no right way to do oogie! Thanks for watching three ads! I'm RandoDraws, like and subscrib and tune in next time for nothing of substance and another three ads!"

:marseymindblown: i wish i can draw like you, RandoDraws

:marseysadge: my squoogie is not doing good pls help me RandoDraws no one sees my art and gives me money

:malefeminist: join the [redacted] server

:marseysmug: As an expert myself these are very good tips and I saw success using them to grow my accounts a while back

^ someone with 300 insta followers due to ye old fanart trick of attention seeking

All these tips that could be three sentences :tayaaa: wtf is wrong with "content" "creators"... it wasn't nearly this wretched 5 years ago

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Cover bands generally play better venues and get paid better than bands playing originals at that level

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Yes but no one dreams about when they will get to play the upper bound of small venues to a crowd of the primarily middle aged.

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:daydream:

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They should go on tour, just one time where you burn your day job vacation time to sleep on floors and barely make enough to cover gas is the reality check those types need

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Cover bands need to be skilled musicians, maybe they suck

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basic 4 chord rock songs possible

As an "ai bro" who occasionally has made non-meme songs, AI currently is awful at writing any rhyme other than AABB or ABAB (there's also the third option of asking for non-rhyming poetry, but that usually creates awful lyrics), and Suno in particular tries to force AABB or ABAB rhythm on songs that clearly aren't written that way, as well as artificially splitting a song into 4-line subsections with extremely uniform spacing. I mostly write my own songs (and then spend much more time repeatedly generating them until it sounds like it does in my imagination, which has taken over 20 tries), and I find that a more useful use of AI for song writing is asking questions like "what is a word that rhymes with __ and has a similar meaning to __", or doing something similar with an entire line.

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So just every other rock band? Shits always sucked

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Rock is nothing without the attitude and "we let some indian developed AI write our songs for us" is as lame as it gets

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