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Ukraine has 12 trillions, I won't let Putin and China have this / Graham :soysnooseethe:

It's all cool and shit but he misses a tiny detail

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1718025918361364.webp

The important places are under Russian control so by this guy logic Ukraine needs to push Russia out and now that's impossible

Only Redditors can create fantasies about Russian running away from Crimea.

Even Zelenskyy is not delusional about capturing Donbas and was aiming at Crimea (also stupid idea since Russia just will use nukes to protect this). Donetsk is like giga fortress at this point it's like mega Avdiivka and it took Russian over 100k soldiers to take it so to take Donetsk Ukraine would need millions soldiers and it just ain't going to happen

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since Russia just will use nukes to protect this

would they though

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Yeah, probably. Crimea is a weird geographic entity in that it was always traditionally populated by Turks, so the current population is made up of colonists brought in from the Russian heartland in the 19th century to establish control, and the original Turkish population was eventually deported. So the local population is all Russian, an important strategic asset, and a more important cultural one.

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For Crimea yeah, they ain't going to leave Crimea. West wouldn't be able to give Ukraine anything that Ukraine doesn't have already as counter.

All the game changers as long range missiles were given to Ukraine because Ukraine is losing, those cluster ammo was given when they failed spring counteroffensive and Zelenskyy told its lack of cluster the fault, they then told they need more long range to fight helicopters and atacms was given then they told they failed in Kharkiv because they can't strike Russia. From all weapons Ukraine received only m777 was given before their Kharkiv offensive and since then they didn't captured single town or a city while now existing purely on western gear so Russia didn't had a reason yet to escalate by using nukes.

Also one of main reason they don't use it yet is because they are politically winning. Last year August there was Ukraine peace talk and BRICS (without Russia) took part of that talk. This year only India is going to send some no name and not even Biden is coming to Ukrainian peace talk. That means Ukrainian victory is out of the window

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any day now russia is gonna win!

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It already won, the question now is just how much more Ukraine will lose.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17180312797312648.webp

That why west is forced again trying to tell Russian that it's bad for Ukraine to lose :marseyxd:

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if russia already won why would they even think about dropping nukes :hmph:

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I was talking about hypothetical scenarios

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well, yeah. you said russia already won! :scoot:

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It's fact, but my hypothetical scenario's were about Graham wanting 12 billions.

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To be fair to our little third world wingcuck, Russia was always going to win. This was always a foregone conclusion, but nobody in the west expected Russia to have such an embarrassing performance at the war's opening. The Europeans, being inept and unserious as they are have decided that Ukraine can win, and are deluding themselves into wasting what little military capability they have into Ukraine in the hopes that they can expand European social democracy further east.

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Probably if they were really pushed but realistically they'll just do the strategic ambiguity thing and hint really hard that they will and the :marseyflagukraine: won't risk it. It's the same when people ask if the US would really nuke Russia over Latvia.

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You are a very boring agenda poster

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Bro, you should give any comments if you represent nothingness

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What a gay response

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You are on gay dating site and dropping NPC replies good job :marseyclappingglasses:

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Wow, i didn't know people actually used npc unironically. That's frickin sad.

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If we help Ukraine now, they could become the best business partner we could dream of

they were a corrupt shithole before this war and they'll remain a corrupt shithole after it

the only people who would "benefit" from those resources are the corrupt leaders

lmao if you think Ukraine's going to responsibly develop their resources and then sell them for a fair price, being totally honest along the way

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Factcheck: This claim is a gross exageration of reality.


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You had your chance. Downvoted and reported. This conversation is over.

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