The tone is dark, even angry.
"The situation is getting worse every day."
"We don't see the goal. Our land is not here."
I wrote multiple times that Ukraine is holding Kursk territory in hope that they get to exchange it for something.
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That what they roughly lost since they hold Kursk territory
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Kursk territory is more zoomed as you see on marks and there is literally nothing there except Sudzha had 6k people so no more than 10k lived in territory.
Kursk oblast has 36/km2 people and 2200/km2 in Kursk
Donetsk oblast 160/km2 its most populous oblast in Ukraine (Kiev is not oblast tho)
And metallurgy wise Donbas is like super important to Ukraine
Russian now reached shevchenko that means just a bit push to north and this will happen:
Oleksandr Kalenkov, head of Ukraine's steelmakers' association, said the loss of the Pokrovsk mine, the only domestic source of coking coal, could cause steel production to slump.
"We could make up to 7.5 million metric tons of steel by the end of the year and, for next year, we saw an increase in production to over 10 million," Kalenkov told Reuters.
"But if we lose Pokrovsk, then ... we will fall to 2-3 million tons."
It's very big deal because during conflicts, since metal and coke is used to produce weapons so wiping out 70-80% of your enemy metal production is big deal
"We don't know where to get coal if Pokrovsk is seized," he told Reuters. "It is difficult to bring it in by importing; today it is not so easy to bring it in by sea."
Ukraine produced more than 4.3 million tons of rolled steel products in January-August 2024, of which 66% were exported. EU countries accounted for 72% of the volume exported, according to the steelmakers' union.
So as you see it becomes costlier to support Ukraine. Now not only EU won't buy cheap steel from Ukraine but they also will need to support Ukraine with steel so they could produce weapons and it will be a b-word to do.
And Ukraine got in such situation because they decided to send all their elites to Kursk. Probably to capture the nuclear power plant because Ukraine also has problem with electricity so losing coal is extra damage. They failed at it, logical move would been to pull back when it was clear they won't capture it. So when best Ukrainian units were banzaing in Kursk oblast. Pokrovsk front got wrecked.
Almost four months after Ukrainian troops launched a lightning offensive into the Russian region of Kursk, text messages from soldiers fighting there paint a dismal picture of a battle they don't properly understand and fear they might be losing.
They speak of dire weather conditions and a chronic lack of sleep caused by Russia's constant bombardment, which includes the use of terrifying, 3,000kg glide bombs.
The first week Ukraine lost tons of AD including multiple patriots. Around March Russian got new lancet drones that had more range than patriots so pulling AD close to the front line is easy way to lose it. So Ukrainian are in Russian territory literally without AD. So strategically Russia had no reason to rush pushing Ukrainian out. And that story about NK ended up being fake and only genius like @pizzashill believed in it. Reason for NK story was that west is running out of ammo and SK had tons of it so khohols politician who are clearly r-slurs and don't understand Asia thought story of NK would push SK supporting Ukraine but they recently closed all help to Ukraine and told them hard no.
@pizzashill here another shit you'll believe
They're also in retreat, with Russian forces gradually retaking territory.
"This trend will continue," Pavlo wrote on 26 November. "It's only a matter of time."
Legendary high moral.
Pavlo spoke of immense fatigue, the lack of rotation and the arrival of units, made up largely of middle-aged men, brought directly from other fronts with little or no time to rest in between.
To hear soldiers complain - about their commanding officers, orders and lack of equipment - is hardly unusual. It's what soldiers often do in difficult circumstances.
Ukraine now losing in every front including Kursk and they pulling men out of other front much more important than Kursk. To hold some field in Kursk.
Also important note, this year was very green (grassy) so Ukrainian used the forest to attack Kursk oblast but during wonder leaves falls so they can't really hide or build fortifications.
Some questioned whether one of the operation's initial goals - to divert Russian soldiers from Ukraine's eastern front - had worked.
It absolutely has, pull more Ukrainian soldiers from all other fronts
The orders now, they said, were to hang onto this small sliver of Russian territory until a new US president, with new policies, arrives in the White House at the end of January.
"The main task facing us is to hold the maximum territory until Trump's inauguration and the start of negotiations," Pavlo said. "In order to exchange it for something later. No-one knows what."
I'll comment about it later because it's just a bit to much of a
President Zelensky indicated that both sides had the change of US administration in mind.
"I am sure that he [Putin] wants to push us out by 20 January," he said.
You know the beautiful part about Zelensky he always says that Putin want to capture X by some date
Also he told about bakhmut and etc.
When we didn't got even a single time confirmed by Putin.
In an effort to help Ukraine thwart Russian counterattacks in Kursk, the US, UK and France have all permitted Kyiv to use long-range weapons on targets inside Russia.
It doesn't seem to have done much to lift spirits.
"No-one sits in a cold trench and prays for missiles," Pavlo said.
Wrong Redditors are praying from their desktop trench
In October alone, Russia was able to occupy an estimated 500 sq km of Ukrainian territory, the most it's taken since the early days of the full-scale invasion in 2022.
In November they took more
And high chances that December will be even more since 3 key cities are going gg
A recent report states that Russian forces seized the entirety of the Toretsk central mine and the three adjacent terykons. The Toretsk mine is one of two main Ukrainian strongholds in the city, with the other one being the rest of the city centre. pic.twitter.com/i6lXtR9TOM
— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) December 3, 2024
Toretsk is as good as gone
Toretsk, Ukraine.
— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) December 4, 2024
The plague of Russian fascism is coming. pic.twitter.com/sXw4BjUv1c
This is also a good proof since every time Ukraine is about to lose a city they crying about the city being destroyed
Russian already captured Komar so Novasylka now has no roads leading to that city (western road is also cut)
🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦The situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is critical: The Russian army has taken Stari Terny and is squeezing pincers near Kurakhove!
— ⏳Towhee 🌏☮️ (@amborin) December 3, 2024
▪️Ukrainian military analyst and propagandist B. Miroshnikov publishes another alarming report on the new successes of the RF Armed… pic.twitter.com/DnqEbBaYCx
The fight in Kurakhove is now in the power plant so at the outskirts of the city.
And despite weeks of reports suggesting that as many as 10,000 North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk to join the Russian counter-offensive, the soldiers we've been in contact have yet to encounter them.
@pizzashill where are north Korean troops ?
🇬🇧🇺🇦🇷🇺‼️🚨 BREAKING: DAILY MAIL PUBLISHES FAKE ABOUT NORTH KOREANS!
— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 4, 2024
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"I haven't seen or heard anything about Koreans, alive or dead," Vadym responded when we asked about the reports.
The Ukrainian military has released recordings which it says are intercepts of North Korean radio communications.
Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents.
They spoke of rewards - drones or extra leave - being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier.
They treating North Koreans like call of duty kill steaks
"It's very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest," Pavlo noted sarcastically. "Especially if he's not here."
Veterans of previous doomed operations see parallels in what's happening in Kursk.
From October 2023 until July this year, Ukrainian forces attempted to hold onto a tiny bridgehead at Krynky, on the left bank of the Dnipro River, some 25 miles (40km) upstream from the liberated city of Kherson.
The bridgehead, initially intended as a possible springboard for advances further into Russian-held territory in southern Ukraine, was eventually lost.
The operation was hugely costly. As many as 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are thought to have been killed or gone missing.
The ironic part it was UK who planed this mission
🚤🇺🇦 Great Britain convinced Ukraine to start an operation on the left bank of Dnipro river in Krynky in 2023, — UP
— MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) November 18, 2024
❗️The maximum task was the departure of AFU to the border with Crimea. The minimum task was to expand the bridgehead on the left bank, cut the M-14 highway 5-7 km… pic.twitter.com/gvHnJFfi6y
Military analysts insist that for all the hardship, the Kursk campaign continues to play an important role.
"It's the only area where we maintain the initiative," Serhiy Kuzan, of the Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre, told me.
They just at start of the article told Ukraine is losing ground in that direction and showed maps and this guy comes and says they have the initiative
And here comes the BEST PART
You see Zelenskyy assumes Trump will come on January 20 and the whole front will freeze. He thinks Putin doesn't see Zelenskyy goal. But the reality is Burger politician basically don't work in December and January and then work very half assed in February. From January 20 to January 27 Trump will be just partying and receiving calls from different world leaders, then he will need to appoint a date to talk with Putin and Zelenskyy. Even if we assume Putin wants to freeze the conflict it will take MONTHS. But Putin don't need it and he has tons of buttons to prolong it and one important button is, Zelensky need to become legal before Putin would talk to him and that's not what Zelensky would want to play because there is huge chances he loses the power. So whole plan of holding Kursk territory to exchange it for something is giga low iq.
Zelensky was also angry last week at western media for saying Ukraine lost 70k men
More than 100,000 soldiers have been charged under Ukraine's desertion laws since Russia invaded in
So Zelenskyy is still suggesting that Ukraine lost only 31k and most are civilians while at same time having over 100k deserters
Putin sees this, everything shows Ukraine is in shit. Wisest move would been if Zelensky told today hey we giving those full 5 oblast including parts that are under our control to Russia for peace deal.
And giga jfl and ISW homos who were always telling us if Ukraine loses something that it ain't important and soon Russian advances will lose tempo
4/ Russian advances through Hrodivka will likely slow as Russian forces begin to fight through the settlement's more urban areas, and Russian forces may struggle to maintain their current tempo of advance as they attempt to advance further west to Myrnohrad (just northeast of… pic.twitter.com/s7CpOuInst
— Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyofWar) August 21, 2024
6/ ...although Russian forces may struggle to maintain their current offensive tempo into the future if Russian authorities conduct additional redeployments from reserve forces in Donetsk Oblast.
— Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyofWar) September 14, 2024
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, Sept. 13, 2024: https://t.co/SEKJTxxS1R pic.twitter.com/ydW78gWisn
This how Redditors now coping while
This is the reality. But Zelenskyy needs nato but nato don't want Ukraine so nato is thinking about alternatives like making Ukraine like Germany during Cold War or bringing peace forces into Ukraine.
Those all are fantastic ideas but they are coming from homosexuals that planned the isolation of Russia and strategical defeat of Russia on battlefield.
So they don't realise Putin started it because he don't want Ukraine in nato or any nato soldiers in Ukraine. He survived the majority of EU hardware, giving Ukraine 600 Taurus won't do shit or Tamohawks
Russian even planning to cross dniper.
🇺🇦⚔️ Ukraine’s allies have shifted their focus from seeking a victory to trying to put Zelensky in the best position to counter Russian advances or negotiate a possible ceasefire, - Bloomberg
— MAKS 24 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) December 4, 2024
❗️The discussion includes the kind of security guarantees that would protect Ukraine,… pic.twitter.com/c9AtHbIemq
This what homo that for 3 years been posting Ukraine is winning
And seems like Biden team r-sluration didn't stoped with 11 years of pardon to Hunter
They want to give Russian frozen assets to Ukraine that's literally stealing and giga low iq move. US is showing the world that its banks can't be trusted and they can change rules at will. But they ain't planning to do it they just want to sell bs to US citizens. They saying they giving that money as loan to Ukraine. In other words that's not Russian money, Biden team just gives Ukraine 50 billions as loan. Ukraine will never pay back and US citizens will be forced to pay Russian back.
This is also good example why mobilisation won't work. Ukraine doesn't have many young boys and statistics like this always try to paint a more favourable picture for Ukraine.
Also do you remember how happily you were when Ukrainian women were refugees telling how they bring young women and children ?
We got more Ukrainian 35-39 post wall roasties than 18-30 year old foids and if we count 30+ post wall roasties it will be multiple times more than all younger groups. And you know what those roasties bring ? Economical damage. An average or below average 35 year old Pier, Pedro, Peter can easily get foid his age. So we got more goods that was already offered more than it was demanded
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Any of his 1:1.2 scale map posts should be excluded from the long post protections.
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I am so tired that my university wants to brain wash us, that Iran is bad because they have beaten some foid for wearing skimpy clothes. I know Iranian girl, if you give them freedom they start dressing up as prosetutes. If you remove moral police Iran will turn into Brazil
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ok this comment made me decide you're more wingcucked than Pizza
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Sal
The pizzaGOD cannot be defeated
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I prefer them beating their foids in Iran than destroy their country in name of foids so then they refugemax to Europe and like Syrian will now beat their foid in Europe
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Bro you're not even from a real European country.
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That doesn't mean I should give a shit what Muslim doing in their countries. I am very tolerant and think I have no moral right saying other people outside my culture how they should live. And I expect other to have similar respect
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What do Muslim immigrants make you do?
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Our street stopped hanging Christmas decorations because it could hurt someone feelings
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The Muslims on your street petitioned your local government and they created an ordinance banning religious expression but only for Christians?
You don't got to lie to kick it, Sal.
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aside from the politics of this particular war, why the frick would any man would stay and fight for their country in current year with these stats? the world is too global today, if there aren't strict laws preventing this people will act in their self interest. every well resourced dude bailed immediately before the borders got shut and people with children are shipping them out of the country. who you going to date win or lose? why would these women return to the poorest country in europe?
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They are forbidden to leave and around 10k died trying to swim across a river to escape to Romania. They now hiding in Chernobyl tho lol
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yes and this is exactly what your country is going to look like if it's ever invaded or goes to war, idk what message they expect young men to take away from stats like this other than 'i need to get out of the country and shirk all responsibility asap'
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Russian convict war criminal gf
I can save her
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I want North Korean patriot gf
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Almost there boys...
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once the war is over hopefully all these people feel sick for watchin videos of troops gettin obliterated to the music of skrillex
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I don't watch those videos
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Watch drone grenade drops with the soundtrack of Blade II playing
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you promised me the good guys would win
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There is sadly no good guys in politics. You can't becoming politician without destroying innocent people lives
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Jannies I think someone hacked into Sal's account
He's making a reasonable point
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The good guys are winning though. Slavs of all persuasions are dying in a pointless war, and all we had to do was ship them a bunch of surplus garbage
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Wow that is a lot of words
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Source?
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Ive long suspected that ukraine went full bore war machine into this while Russia treated is as a police action.
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Factcheck: This claim has been classified as misogynistic.
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Hahahaha awesome frick Ukraine
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