Deepstate doesn't want to post lots of bad news for Ukraine. The fact that they aren't posting anything at all could suggest that Russia has made some important advances.
— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) December 22, 2024
Ukrainian "official" maps now are giga slow at updating their maps.
First that stopped updating its maps was deployment map
They updated just like once after fall of Ughledar.
Volunteer open-source community @Deepstate_UA is @BILD's trusted battlefield map supplier for many months.
— Julian Röpcke🇺🇦 (@JulianRoepcke) December 23, 2024
➡️ I am shocked to hear that the service will be shut down, acc. to the activists, by @CinC_AFU himself.
➡️ Ukraine will surely not win the war by silencing its citizens. pic.twitter.com/H7os0ed5fW
Ukraine will surely not win the war by silencing its citizens.
Their maps were pessimistic, good riddance
— makspejn (@taframan) December 23, 2024
‼️Attention! Syrskyi, instead of stabilizing the defense, has launched an offensive against the DeepState team — the last bastion of more or less adequate information about the front line.
— Марʼяна Безугла (Mariana Bezuhla) (@marybezuhla) December 23, 2024
The plan includes:
Mobilization of the DeepState team (Send them to the infantry, no…
Khohols politician
Next #update.
— Julian Röpcke🇺🇦 (@JulianRoepcke) December 24, 2024
Looks like Ukrainian involved solved their little dispute behind closed doors. DeepState admits no troops are surrounded and the General Staff allows the platform to keep posting map updates.
Very interesting ... 🤷♂️ pic.twitter.com/8hJbcVXzYm
Then military took over deepstate and cancelled all surrenderings
So things don't look good for Ukraine
As you see Kurakhove has fallen and Russian cut the road. As I mentioned multiple times before after Kurakhove Russian won't have trouble capturing that black line.
Russian forces have reportedly advanced in the Velyka Novosilka direction, taking up new treeline positions and are now within 300 metres of the last road that resupplies Velyka Novosilka. pic.twitter.com/3y2lk17cMa
— AMK Mapping 🇺🇦🇳🇿 (@AMK_Mapping_) December 23, 2024
Things in Novosilka looks also giga bad
That would mean that Russian will get the whole black line and Ukraine has no defence lines behind it and now building new entrenchments is too late especially with drones observation. (That's why pokrovsk basically has no fortification.)
Only Pavlohrad can be used for good defence but it's only like 35km from dniper river and the bridge, with modern drones that's nothing so supporting it will be a b-word and losing it will be gg. Whole Ukrainian industry will die, supporting east Ukraine will be possible only through Kiev and if Russian decide to push to Kiev then the whole eastern Ukraine will be encircled.
But luckily for Ukrainians, Russian now playing mostly safe and their goal is Deversk
Seversk has now best fortification under Ukrainian and Ukrainian best and most experienced units so it's seems like Russian want to crush them next. Crushing them will remove the danger that they would attack Russian if Russian overstretch.
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— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) December 23, 2024
Zelensky tried to bribe Slovakian PM Robert Fico with €500 million in exchange for supporting Ukraine’s admission into NATO, Fico has revealed
€500 milion for Zelensky now are joke.pic.twitter.com/UCsuRkzFgo
Slovakian leader told that Zelenskyy tried to bribe him. All pro khohols including Redditors were saying Slovakian leader lied!
Zelenskyy openly says he tried to brib… compensate Slovakian leader
Then there was a lot of bs stories about Koreans. It's been now 3 months and Ukraine has no solid proof of NK fighting in Kursk. Ukraine are legit racist against Asian.
In 2022 they created billions stories about buryats.
Now every Asian is NK.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1hkodgh/germany_announces_major_military_aid_package_for/
I started to believe every leopard 1a5 Ukraine is getting is a leopard 2. Because officially Ukraine received around 100 abrams and they getting destroyed daily yet Ukraine officially has received over 400 leopards 1a5 and we barely seen them and the ones we seen are Denmark edition. Yet we see tons of leopards 2.
Ukraine is also preparing the population to mobilisation of 18 years old.
While Zelenskyy asking western countries to cut neetbux for Ukrainian in EU and not to aid in anyways Ukrainian men. Ain't he an sweetheart
🇺🇦🇩🇪‼️🚨 MENTAL BREAKDOWN:
— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) December 23, 2024
A Ukranian soldier talked to a friend who decided to go to Germany.
The guy from Germany told him something like: “You are naive and fall for propaganda!”
The Ukranian soldier has a mental breakdown and was screaming in tears: “I shouldn’t fight” pic.twitter.com/OLVFVIb9Yf
So this guy won't be the only 22 year old that wasn't supposed to fight
But we had some bad news in last 7 days
Russian launched Orechnikov
And we lost true legends
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Note that it takes the military Afrikaans manuals and magazines I read about 6 months minimum average after the world events to actually decider combat/war events, and accurately make summaries of conflicts on the local, tactical and strategic level.
War is chaos of the greatest order, and often even victors are not aware that they had scored a strategic blow unto the enemy's combat capacity, immediately after the battle, even if they had total LOS (line of sight)
In the way that USA Navy forces were not immediately aware of the ramifications the Battle of Midway would have upon the momentum of the Pacific Theatre - they understood they had won a great areal and naval engagement, the US understood the significance of Aircraft carriers even before their entry into WW2, but the sheer dominant magnitude of the influence an aircraft carrier would as a weapons platform would supercede even the wildest prewar speculations, and Japan would be perpetually on the defensive as US could field more aircraft carriers to more islands and campaigns than the Japanese could match before midway
The ability to have a mobile airport was just that strategicly overwhelming
When the NVA smuggled 80 000 Viet Cong regulator guerillas into South Vietnam to sneak attack myriads of urban centers and the Royal Palace in hue, during the Tet Lunar celebration, little did they realize that this upcoming deafeat would be the greatest blow dealt to the US for the entire war.
In every metric the US army and ARVn forces completely decimated the VC and communist sympathiser forces. Entire brigades were wiped out to a man. While the US army took 2000 losses, and the ARVn soldiers lost 11000 men across the country's hamlets and urban centers, the VC lost 58000 men, out of their initial 80 000 smuggled across the border
It was the single greatest massacre of VC forces to the extent that they literally ceased to fricking be a political power within the communist sphere in Vietnam entire and Cambodia. From then on the North Vietnamese had near absolute control of military operations.
The US and ARVn performance was absolutely spectacular, perhaps one of history's great battles like fricking Cannae or Waterloo or something.
Despite the vast majority of South Vietnamese on Lunar Tet leave, their reaction and iron discipline from their US allies, and us Air Cavalry (helicopter troops) mobility, allowed the two allies to respond in such tactical swiftness few nations could ever perform
Yet I believe Tet offensive is a microcosms of Burgerland's time in Vietnam, how a nation can win every conceivable battle and yet lose a war.
In 1968 when this 2 month multi-city urban siege battle occurred, American homes were the most appliance develped homes on the planet, out of the 200million peeps alive 78 million owned or had access to TV.
And unlike WW2 there was not as widespread reported censorship and, subsequently the colour video footage in front of half the country with gruesome bodies lying the street horrified the public. Additionally, the lies and deception of the military a and 2 administrations about how good the war went was contravened by life footage of the US embassy where military police was in a 6 hour life and death gunfight with VC sappers, all broasccasted on life TV
Combined with desperate requests from virtually all South Vietnamese urban centers for EVEN MORE us troops, the Tet offensive had failed the communist intentions of heralding and inspiring uprisings against the South Vietnamese gov , but instead unexpectedly brought low USA civilian morale to continue to send their sons overseas into the meatgrinder and was a flashpoint for the largest anti-war movements back in the US
I go on this incredibly long tangent to demonstrate how nothing in war is obvious, on either the tactical or strategic level. The chaos of a persistent fog of war, combined with secrecy and censorship of all belligerents in a conflict, makes assertions difficult
There is only so much one can glean even from modern life maps of conflict lines. Additionally critical resources are often not apparent at the start of the conflict.
In 2021 it was believed the most critical military tech would be ATGM anti-tank guided missiles like Javalins, as infantry (which could hide in trenches, fields or urban areas) fielded the greatest counter against Russian massed armour which outmatched Ukrainian field numbers
By the time 2023 arrived the most critical munitions would be basic artillery shells from even post WW2 era, to actual fricking WW2 era munitions, and Russia was winning the artillery duel attrition wars
While Ukrainian Himars dominated artillery duels, they had finite and very expensive missiles which Burgerland struggled to transport across the Atlantic, even when there was bipartisan will in US Congress to do so.
Unironic WW1 bunkers and trenches also came to dominate the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine from Donbass to Crimea, with static artillery war and massed charges for both sides being the most popular strategy, on a grinding stalemate similar as to the ending phase of 1952s Korea War.
Could have forseen this?! As both sides literally tied their military fate to the political fate of Burgerland's election
None of this war is or has been obvious, and much of this garbage which Salvador spams weekly is often meaningless as village size engagement can but often don't have bearing on the larger strategic conflict and its effects
NAFOtards on YouTube or /r/World news telling us Russia is finished because they have 20% inflation or because Russia is using WW1 era crap mobiles are worthless . This means Russia is a paper tiger, but that they are still well equipped to frick up Ukraine and win this war
And no amount of circlejerk about wanting the good guys to win in their twitter bios will change that.
Both NAFOtards and Salvador have this perpetual screeching obfuscating reality and it's really fricking obvious
Also don't be fooled by Salvador's fancy formatting, the content is of poor value, and is much more wingcucked than the much superior weekly Slavshit threads the better @Sal posted last year
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@Redactor0 grandpa confirm what I got wrong
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Midway was Japanyese failure two defeat US Nyavy, but didn't mark the beginnying of US dwominyance - merewy the start of balanced period wen bwoth sides fwought attwition fwights in Guadalcanyal. Few mwonths after Midway US would be dwown two just onye carrier, Enterpwise.
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Beautifully written and an accurate insight
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Very accurate, have you seen how this year Ukraine tried to pull himars card and lost 8 himars in 2 days ? Or how Ukraine lost all its main bunkers this year to fabs ?
Very accurate information if we live in 2022, the year most pro Ukrainian are living.
Himars wasn't even a shit in 2023.
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Tomahawks is 2024 game changer
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jassm 2025 possible, tomahawk never
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Game changer is an idea of if Ukraine gets it, they going to win
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oh right yeah thats absurd
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I dunno. South Vietnamese forces were rather incompetent, and even if the US was allowed to continue fighting, it might've been another Afghanistan outcome or maybe even a North-South Korea split
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Did ZANU or the Taliban ever manage to win a single battle? It doesn't matter because in the end they achieved their goal.
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What
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U dwo understand that Ukwainye had owor 30 mwobilisations waves and want nyot two mwobilise their 18 years owld while they ain't Afwicans where the awerage pwopulation age is 15 ?
This is 2021 pwopulation twee Ukwainye didn't added 3 years wen 270k kids (:swo 135k bwoys) swo that would mean rewl 0-4 bwoys pwopulation in Ukwainye is awound 300k and nyot almwost a miwwion.
It's like onye of rare cwonflict where the invaded cwountwy pwopulation ain't incweasing.
Ukwainye onwy stwategy nyow is twying two get best pwossible peace deal, they obviouswy gwoing two wose land bad their gwowl is two wose minyimal. Their victwory statement was 1991 bworder swo they alweady wost
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Then write as such, instead of your pretty weekly wingcuck shit
Every week I have to be exposed to your bitter venom
You have the capacity to actually write write posts with great insight instead of constant reports about NAFOtards and vatnik losers in twitter
Yet your hatefulness supercedes your own actual genuine talents
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He can't help it- as a Muslim refugee from a shithole living on EU welfare, he simps for the STRONK and based Russians
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You do understand that Russia is still one of most important economical partner to Netherland ? I know education in Netherland is kinda meh with unlimited high school acronyms that can't prepare you for college/university so Netherland has less college graduates than in China and school are brainwashing kids with moral bs. But you ain't a kid to be this tarded
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I'm an American the average American company is more economically relevant than Russia or the Netherlands
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My bad, I thought you were Dutch. It's ok average burger is more dumb than average dutchcel
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Come on it's kinda interesting how first government signed official contract with deepstatemap (company) in October and now decided to mobilise their reporters and replace them. Reason is deepstatemap is the most popular mapper especially in Ukraine and they often were the first to report loses.
Jornoids giving you bad news ? Send them to the front
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Shut up meg
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Just to inform you. Ukraine tried to pull them this year to capture more territory in Kursk. They lost 8 himars in 2 days.
Since Russian build new types of drones whose range is superior to himars and destroyed himars is a lot harder to repair than artillery tubes
With improvement of fabs, Ukraine lost all its important bunkers. This year they lost avdiivka, Ughledar, toretsk sector and those were the 3 main Ukrainian strongholds.
Do you see how outdated your information is ? You sure you have the rights to shit on other ?
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I'm not weekly smug posting my wingcuckery, and parading it as some vaunted authority on the going ons of the war,
All because I was being contrarian, because annoying liberal NAFOtard Redditors mindbroke me to jubilate at the misery of a people who never wronged me.
So yeah, I feel in this specific instance I'm somewhat justified in pooping on Salvador
Additionally, the lion share of my thesis length rambling , I transmit that it takes very long periods of time to have unbiased unfiltered understanding of the Ukrainian and any other contemporary war
I am fully aware that the way in which I learn and disceminate information of the war leads to the reality of it being outdated by the time I accrue it, yet it's the few ways I can find actual truth. And not just propaganda numbers
You do not shame me in the way you think you do
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Himars was an effective weapon only in one specific event. Is that it caused Russian troubles to supply Kherson. Russian tornado-s is a better weapon than himars but you'll never hear about it because Ukraine was hyping every western weapon in hope to get more. But as Zaluzhnyy told wars bring innovation, Ukrainian brought drones to the war. Drones ware successfully used by Ukrainian in 2022 until Russian build their own that ended up being better and in bigger quantities. By early 2023 Russian had drones that could wipe out himars and at that time Russian developed glide bombs. Those glide bombs are the reason why Russian were able to destroy Ukrainian bunkers.
Those things are now known for over a year.
The war is now political. West has invested a lot into Ukraine and after 1000+ tanks, Ukraine is short on men, so it's clear winning for Ukraine is out of question. For west now the goal is to get a peace deal with most bangs but for Ukraine is to drag western soldiers into that conflict because giving up for Zelenskyy is death sentence to his political career. He won't be able to explain to his people why he didn't signed the 2022 peace deal that was almost perfect for Ukraine. For Putin it doesn't matter if he gets to officially the territories he calls his own and removal of sanctions or the fight continues and he captures more territories.
All the assumptions about Ukraine winning were made with idea that Russian would just give up and surrender. But those assumptions never asked why would Russian give up if Ukrainian in much worse situation that Russian are fighting and in the end of the day those 2 are same race and have same heritage.
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Make this a post and I'll give you all the pins you want
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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Only now are we even beginning to understand why the initial Russian invasion failed, and the finer details will likely take decades.
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It "failed" because Russians withdrew because a peace deal was in the process of being signed until bongs cheered hohols onto completely wiping themselves off the map? Nah, we need finer details
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It "failed" because Russians withdrew because a peace deal was in the process of being signed until bongs cheered hohols onto completely wiping themselves off the map? Nah, we need finer details
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Not going to read all that COOM you gargled straight out of vatnig balls
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I don't get it (where's the COOM?)
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Cool,so two more weeks, or will ivan be already on the train home by christmas?
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it was over in 3 days of special operationIng, this has all been the after party for a job well done
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Well now we are kinda in after party, the question of Ukrainian victory is out of question and the question is all about how to leave without damaging the liver even more
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And then the Russians will behave?
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It's not Russia who tried all those 30+ years to scam Russia. Ukraine started nato shit in 1997 when they tried to get something in return from Russia for not joining NATO and first conflict happened in 2003 or so so before the orange revolution and etc. Even now Ukraine tries to frick over Russia in peace deal, they want the front just to freeze, that for Russian is just a draw, why would they accept it ?
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Ivan is at home already
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!historychads if you want an actual good map of ukristan w yellow scribbles, clicky boxes and shit
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/2/viewer?mid=1RRji52VBYmedjamvynGtBuZ_hs-PEBo
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I love the fortification lines Ukraine build in pokrovsk since September that cost over a billion buxx
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Guess the ethnicity
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We're going back in time to the first gopnik-giving to get vodka off the menu
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Another day another salv post that is entirely pentagon propaganda talking points.
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I work for ʍsı my goal is to destroy ISW
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Factcheck: This claim has not been approved by experts.
This post was reviewed by an independent team of fact checkers.
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Edition number 107 of the weekly "it's fricking over for Ukraine they only have a few days left"
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What happened to Ukraine winning that Redditors promised ?
I personally never told it was going to be fast and even told in 2022 that Russian will slowly grind Ukraine to @Szia_uram he laughed at me back then but now Ukraine is getting ready for its last mobilisation.
Ukraine wants "fair" peace deal but when you are on your back feet you ain't getting "fair" deal so Ukraine strategy should now be stop it all before shit starts happening in dniper region since Ukraine will lose all its industry and even more people will leave the country
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too long, didn't read.
Was too busy watching Russia lose oil tankers, cargo ships, oil refineries, and enjoying all the videos of banks and police stations getting molotoved as a little treat
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Living in a lie, true Redditor
@Szia_uram it's been now over a year since Ukraine started hitting oil refineries, back then I told nothing is going to happen when western media was saying just in a month Russian war machine is gonna be destroyed. Ironic eh ?
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Everything I have said is a statement of fact buddy
Me refusing to read your schizozigger ramblings isn't "living a lie"
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Facts
You just proved you read it. So you do live in a lie.
Facts is something like: 0 towns liberated since November 11 2022 despite getting over 1000 nato tanks, 80 nato jets, 1000+ nato long range missiles and 500+ billion in aid.
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Yes I did read his reply to my comment because it wasn't 15 pages of nonsense but actually just a single paragraph
But also lol at your comment because a-nowhere near 1k NATO tanks have even been sent to Ukraine in the first place
But you're right though, we should definitely send them more weapons (we can afford it), and remove any and all restrictions!
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Ukraine has at least 400 leopards 1 tanks
At least 200 leopards 2 tanks
At least 80 abrams
Poland delivered more than 260 tanks mainly of T-72M1
Czech Republic provided 194+ tanks
There are more tanks but it's enough to prove the point.
So nowhere near is how much ?
West basically stopped promoting how much stuff it gives to Ukraine like today Germany told it delivered 100 more leopards 1 and 17 leopards2a4
West has dropped every month couple of 14 leopards 2. The reason maybe is not to be very public about it. Statistically Ukraine per country has the most leopards tanks.
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Ah to be fair I misread your comment as saying that they had lost 1k NATO tanks
Still, we should send them more tanks too
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Lol
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@IRREDEEMABLE-KRAMPUS that's the guy
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Man you are fricking really tilted huh. 2 year old comment, b-word?
Lol i just realized you burned your alt by accident too. Jesus Christ you're r-slurred
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