EFFORTPOST Exclusive: U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy

Who could expected that the

Would end up being a problem

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1ifd20g/exclusive_us_wants_ukraine_to_hold_elections/

The country who has the weirdest obsession with their own constitution in the world wants Ukraine to break its constitution and hold elections under martial law.

Makes sense, yeah.

Yeah makes sense Redditors ignoring khohols constitution where it clearly stated that election exception is for parliament not presidential. Zelenskyy could had fixed it by calling main court and asking them if his stay is legal, very easy but he didn't do it because he knows they going to take the power for him.

Redditors think US gov (including Bidens admin) would for lol hint at it

Zelenskyy is the only true dictator in Europe.

Why is no one wondering if Trump committed election fraud? Doesn't that seem super logical?

Russia wants the US to tell Ukraine to hold elections. Putin doesn't like Zelenskyy

As if there is a chance to get anyone else. Heck even if that happens, he's gonna be even worse for ruzzia. Pro-ruzzian political flank in Ukraine was annihilated.

Zaluzhnyy, Porochenko and now Budanov are more popular than Zelenskyy

And what's happen when you get more popular than Zelenskyy ?

Ukrainian MP Roman Kostenko says SBU has opened a criminal case into the leaked statement by the head of the military intelligence, Kyrylo Budanov, who allegedly said at parliamentary hearings that Ukraine must seek peace by this summer or it may face the loss of statehood later.… pic.twitter.com/MKnRZGLpQp

— Leonid Ragozin (@leonidragozin) January 30, 2025

2 cases was opened again Budanov

And one again his right hand. You remember how before kicking out Zaluzhnyy, Zelenskyy got rid of all his close circle

Well, Trump is currently violating our Constitution left and right. He's never cared about the rule of law. He's a conman and a criminal.

Zelenskyy ignoring constitution it's Trump fault

A (temporary) ceasefire and permanent peace are 2 different situations.

The Ukrainian constitution requires the latter for martial law to be rescinded

Martial law in Ukraine is very temporary and Zelenskyy always extends it every 3 months so he technically illegally extended it 3 times after he lost presidential power and wtf permanent leave suppose to mean if Ukraine is not at state of war ?

Therein lies the rub. When will it be "permanent"? That requires more willingness and effort from Russia than they've shown to date.

If it holds, sure, I could see Ukraine being ready for elections again, but that requires a peace that leads to normalization first.

And if the Ukrainian people think Zelensky is holding on too long, I'll trust they'll let him know, just as they did vs Yanukovych in 2014.

Normalization probably won't come, at least not under Putin who's shown absolutely no willingness to compromise. In case of a lasting ceasefire like Korea, Ukraine should hold elections even without normalization of ties with Russia.

Remember, the two Koreas still don't have diplomatic relations and South Korea has consistently ranked highly in the democracy index. >> Not having diplomatic relations with your neighbors or having parts of your territory occupied doesn't excuse you from holding elections. I understand the argument that holding elections during an active conflict is a bad idea, but if there's a lasting ceasefire, elections should be held even without cooperation from Russia because that's not going to come anyway.

Zelenskyy has now sub 50% popularity in Ukraine since his high of over 90%

The man was freely elected (and that angered Putin)

Putin can help get this about by signing a peace agreement.

Redditors legit believe people they don't like, like Trump and Putin ain't freely elected

Seriously why wouldn't Russian elect Putin if west did everything he was warning Russian about the west ? Giving Ukraine German tanks was supposed to make Russian love west ?

https://old.reddit.com/r/tanks/comments/181ujim/have_leopard_tanks_performed_poorly_in_ukraine/

Yeah, some people kinda expected them to perform as near-godly indestructible death machines, slaying waves and waves of Russian tanks.

>some Redditors but not me

The "current team" didn't start or provoke a war to get into this situation. That's all 100% on Putin.

"Unprovoked"

I love this Redditors oxymoron any conflict is provoked.

Khohols walking in Kiev screaming who don't jump is moscal, in 2013 telling they will kill all the Russian in Crimea now it's unprovoked.

Or recently Zelenskyy told he don't respect Russian so he don't respect 40% of his country. He also been telling how he is going to defeat Russia and basically won

Absolutely not provoked just as him being legal president

"Most democracies hold elections during times of war. I think that's very important. I think that's good for democracy. That's the beauty of a strong democracy, that you have more than one person who can potentially run."

Translated from Ukranian, but close to what he said.

Oh yeah when Zelenskyy was popular and wasn't afraid of Zaluzhnyy he didn't mind election

Nvidea going down and down

Biden also wanted them to hold elections.

>Washington raised the issue of elections with senior officials in Zelenskiy's office in 2023 and 2024 during the Biden administration, two former senior U.S. officials said. State Department and White House officials told their Ukrainian counterparts that elections were critical to uphold international and democratic norms, the officials said. Officials in Kyiv have pushed back on elections in conversations with Washington in recent months, telling Biden officials that hosting polls at such a volatile moment in Ukraine's history would divide Ukrainian leaders and potentially invite Russian influence campaigns, the two former U.S. officials said.

Bipartisan stupidity, hooray!

When even democrats don't agree with you everyone is stupid except you Redditor

Not war, but the martial law. Technically it can be cancelled at any time to hold elections, regardless of ongoing conflicts.

It's actually brutal how many people don't understand war is an legal status

The fact that Europe doesn't have the balls to interviene and use it's military to change the odds and the game is a shame towards european spirit (whatever the frick that means these days) and a disgrace towards our european ukrainian brothers. It is a true spit in Europe's eyes and apparently we don't have a problem with that, nor any responsability. Disgraceful and spineless for europe!

Why he doesn't hold bakhmut if he feels so bad khohols ? It's like homo tries to shame other European while his butt is save when khohols getting into another pocket

Getting a wipe in Novosilka seems it wasn't enough but that Redditor could had stopped it !

Actions like this by Russia's puppet make me reconsider if the 2024 election was manipulated.

Why does a Russian stooge think sure a new election would overthrow Ukraine's democratic leader?

Thing is Putin was honest about him wanting Harris to win because Trump makes thing complicated, guy for real want peace deal, the only guy in this trio that wants peace. Putin position was looking good and saying he want peace while beating khohols while Zelenskyy screaming for new game changer.

With Harris it would been easy since she would scream about good faith peace and that Putin is not honest so khohols should continue fighting

USA will help us to the end the war, but with nuance - they will throw us under the bus and call it a "victory". (and this is not even sarcasm)

The US has never delayed an election not even during the civil war.

Battlefield wise most updates are field movements and some not popular villages capturing

Ukraine fully evacuating myrnohrad and its strange they do it after Pokrovsk since Pokrovsk is less encircled that myrnohrad

Fall of chasiv yard probably will be soon. It's just hard to pinpoint chasiv yard borders.

Bridgehead in Kharkiv now is solid and Ukraine will lose huge chunk in Kharkiv like I previously posted

Bridgehead in lyman direction got also larger something Ukrainians weren't prepared since zarichne was the stoping point and it isn't protected from north attacks